[EVDL] EV fleets> less maintenance , more efficient than ice

2020-02-10 Thread ev ln via EV
How to prepare your fleet for electric vehicles Feb 06, 2020 ... an increased amount of organizations have prioritized environmental sustainability, particularly through the adoption of electric vehicles ...

[EVDL] Tesla gigafactory in TX ...

2020-02-10 Thread ev ln via EV
(post resent #2) [ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Hell-yeah-bring-on-Texas-Gigafactory-li-on-needed4-Cybertruck-tp4696339.html ] %(I request TX locals post their views on the following to bring balance to this thread. Others may comment, but I'd like to hear

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used Model S After 'Audit'

2020-02-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 10 Feb 2020 at 15:48, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Ultimately we may need legal clarification of what it means to own, or > at least indefinitely own the right to use. Similar to the > right-to-repair issues fomenting right now. You'll see more of this in coming years. It's a growing trend

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2020-02-10 Thread ev ln via EV
The nabble archive is hung/locked/not-showing posts. -This is odd. I can post from brucedp5, but it does not show on the alternate unsupported evdl archve. But posts from this new eail account, do show. Me thinks brucedp# is blocked. I'll post from here directly. Sorry for the coming repeat

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used Model S After 'Audit'

2020-02-10 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
/www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > >> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > > >> INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > >> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > >>

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2020-02-10 Thread ev ln via EV
#3 *** This is a Test of the brucedp5 Broadcast System, this is only a test *** (?why? late last night I spent hours putting together a post when I should have been asleep (affects my health). After I sent it, the nabble archive nor the unofficial evdl archive showed my post. Even now,

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used Model S After 'Audit'

2020-02-10 Thread paul dove via EV
> >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > >ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > >INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > >Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > >

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used Model S After 'Audit'

2020-02-10 Thread paul dove via EV
%7C1%7C0%7C637169133923349392sdata=hextFB9Ep6Vf8t5ytETbSXEa7LjemtAvVIkS0%2F9PwEY%3Dreserved=0 > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > (https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgroups.yahoo.com%2Fgroup%2FNEDRAdata=02%7C01%7C%7C6e8b6d5e03a3484539ef08d7adf39055%7C84df9e7fe9f640af

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used Model S After 'Audit'

2020-02-10 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used Model S After 'Audit'

2020-02-10 Thread Damon Henry via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used Model S After 'Audit'

2020-02-10 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used Model S After 'Audit'

2020-02-10 Thread Damon Henry via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used Model S After 'Audit'

2020-02-10 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I agree with David's point of view, mostly. If you buy a car, you should own it to the extent that it will continue to work in the same manner as when you bought it, of course allowing for eventual wear and tear. It becomes difficult to exactly say what "work in the same manner" means, but to

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $45k Niro 64kWh liquid-cooled EV> novices can drive w/o learning EV-speak

2020-02-10 Thread Christopher Darilek via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used Model S After 'Audit'

2020-02-10 Thread paul dove via EV
It’s the exact same thing. His car still drives. Just certain SW features don’t work. Cable can shutoff showtime, HBO or whatever else you aren’t paying for... I am sure there are comparable examples in the auto world I am just not up on features offered with other vehicles Sent from my iPhone

Re: [EVDL] Tesla gigafactory in TX ...

2020-02-10 Thread Willie via EV
On 2/10/20 1:55 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: [ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Hell-yeah-bring-on-Texas-Gigafactory-li-on-needed4-Cybertruck-tp4696339.html ] %(I request TX locals post their views on the following to bring balance to this thread. Others may

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $45k Niro 64kWh liquid-cooled EV> novices can drive w/o learning EV-speak

2020-02-10 Thread Willie via EV
On 2/9/20 6:20 PM, paul dove via EV wrote: Yea, the Tesla didn’t have those features when purchased. They were removed after selling to a dealer. The dealer is the one who tricked this man into thinking he was getting FSD. Let's just say that the situation is murky. I have a friend that

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used Model S After 'Audit'

2020-02-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 9 Feb 2020 at 18:12, paul dove via EV wrote: > Cable TV will shut you off in a heat beat if you arenTMt paying for the > service too. I assume you mean HEARTbeat. Cable TV isn't a car. It's not even an antenna. You don't own it. It's strictly a service, to be granted or not at the whim