Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Justin Kenny via EV wrote: Not sure if you understood the previous 2 messages, the Zener diode will drain your battery, and a diode will not stop it from overcharging. I really suggest to use the right tool for the job, $3.25 for a constant-current constant-voltage converter isn't much cost to sa

Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Lee Hart via EV
jkenny23 via EV wrote: Another very important note; diodes don't drop voltage the same at all current levels. Meaning; they will NOT stop your 4.5V panel from overcharging your battery to 4.5V if you don't have a dedicated charging IC. If you want to charge your battery to an unusual voltage, I

Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Justin Kenny via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
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[EVDL] 72v charger is really 71.4 20s lifepo4 solution found.

2020-06-02 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
It seems that with LiFePO4 a specific voltage charger is needed. 20 cells require 71.4. This seems to match the BMS of 20s and what the spec sheet for A123 M1 cells is. I am not sure if there is a better option for buying in the USA.  Everything seems to be made in Asia. I couldn't find a single

Re: [EVDL] Diesel Brothers fined for removing emissions devices on trucks.

2020-06-02 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Diesel Brothers fined for removing emissions devices on trucks.

2020-06-02 Thread Evan Foss via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Justin Southam via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
I agree. I needed a 2.5v zener reference voltage (half way on a 5v system). It took a 3.9v zener to get the 2.5v I needed when biasing it with something like a 10k resistor... Bob -Original Message- From: EV On Behalf Of Lee Hart via EV Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:10 PM To: Electric

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Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Justin Kenny via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

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Re: [EVDL] Diesel Brothers fined for removing emissions devices on trucks.

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Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Justin Kenny via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
I'm thinking of using two panels, one tilted 45 degs to the east, and the other tilted 45 deg to the west. That should provide a fairly flat power output through the day with something like .375 ma max. If I put a 4.3V zener across the panel, then that should bypass some of the current, so I sho

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Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
Thanks Lee, I'd just about figured that out by looking at data sheets. :-) > True zener diodes only exist below about 6 volts. True zeners have a large > change in their zener > voltage versus current. For example, a 1N5335 3.9v 5-watt zener will measure > about: > > 5.1v at 1200ma > 4.5v at

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Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread jkenny23 via EV
Another very important note; diodes don't drop voltage the same at all current levels. Meaning; they will NOT stop your 4.5V panel from overcharging your battery to 4.5V if you don't have a dedicated charging IC. If you want to charge your battery to an unusual voltage, I highly recommend using a

Re: [EVDL] Diesel Brothers fined for removing emissions devices on trucks. (Jason Rushing)

2020-06-02 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: Wouldn't it be better to have a 3.9V zener across the battery? Unless thay have leakage current when off? If I'm going to put it across the panel then I'd probably want a 4.3V zener, and then drop ~0.4V between the panel and the battery? The result doesn't have to

Re: [EVDL] Diesel Brothers fined for removing emissions devices on trucks.

2020-06-02 Thread Jason Rushing via EV
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Re: [EVDL] .tw Tesla-3 plows into flipped hwy box-truck body @110kph (v)

2020-06-02 Thread paul dove via EV
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[EVDL] Diesel Brothers fined for removing emissions devices on trucks.

2020-06-02 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
Wouldn't it be better to have a 3.9V zener across the battery? Unless thay have leakage current when off? If I'm going to put it across the panel then I'd probably want a 4.3V zener, and then drop ~0.4V between the panel and the battery? The result doesn't have to be precisely 3.9V on the batt

Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: Correction, My panels have 2x12 cells. ~5.5V at VMP, ~7V VOC Now that I think about it, I don't think just using diodes will work. The VMP and VOC are two far about to make it practical. How about a zener diode across the panel to limit its peak voltage? Then

Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
g maybe putting a 100 ohm resistor in parrel with the diode, >> that would allow the >> charger to see the battery voltage. >> I still have to figure out how much current the microcontrollers, etc. will >> draw, but it's going to >> be at lea

Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Matt via EV
d like a reasonable plan? Any better suggestions? > > Thanks, Pete. > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200602/3cd29a40/attachment.html> > __

Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
current the microcontrollers, etc. will > draw, but it's going to > be at least 10 mA when idle, with bursts up to several hundred ma when > transmitting. > > Does this sound like a reasonable plan? Any better suggestions? > &g

Re: [EVDL] .tw Tesla-3 plows into flipped hwy box-truck body @110kph (v)

2020-06-02 Thread Jim Walls via EV
On 06/02/2020 09:41, evln via EV wrote: https://autos.yahoo.com/watch-tesla-model-3-drive-213200447.html Watch a Tesla Model 3 drive into a flipped truck on a Taiwan highway June 1, 2020 ... a video that surfaced on Twitter shows a Tesla Model 3 driving, without waiver or interruption, directly

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Re: [EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Matt via EV
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[EVDL] Question about charging small LiIon batteries

2020-06-02 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
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[EVDL] .tw Tesla-3 plows into flipped hwy box-truck body @110kph (v)

2020-06-02 Thread evln via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla-haters use civil-unrest 2rally2 destroy-Superchargers

2020-06-02 Thread paul dove via EV
https://thedriven.io/2019/04/03/can-non-tesla-electric-cars-use-tesla-ev-chargers/ Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Alan Brinkman via EV wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Tesla chargers for the home are pretty reasonable in price. If I had safe > parking around my home (I do no