Re: [marketing-events] LCA 2005 OpenOffice.org Miniconf preparations
Jacqueline wrote: That's very disappointing for me, because I like being a booth babe. If I had know there would be no booth, I probably would not have signed up to attend. I cannot find anything on http://www.linux.conf.au/ or http://www.openoffice.org.au/miniconf/ to indicate that there were booths. So I'm a bit confused why you thought that might be the case. It was just an unsupported assumption on my part. It simply never occurred to me that there would not be a trade show with booths. I've never attended a conference that didn't have them. Obviously my conference experience has been too limited! BTW, the OOo programme looks great -- really interesting! I'll probably be just as glad I'm not minding a booth, so I get to listen to more of the talks. Regards, Jean
Re: [marketing-events] LCA 2005 OpenOffice.org Miniconf preparations
On Sat, 2005-02-26 at 07:56, Jacqueline McNally wrote: > Ian Lynch wrote: > > I'm about to book air tickets. I am a little worried about travelling > > the distance if there are no points of focus apart from lectures and > > talks. Anyone like to reassure me that it will be worthwhile? > > > > I can't decide for others what will be worthwhile :) I'm coming, my problem is simply time. I have a deadline in a week I *have* to meet and time to sort things out just now is a real issue. I'm even giving rugby up this afternoon ;-) It would be good to at least have an INGOT BOF get together but I guess I can talk to people individually anyway. Look forward to meeting you again Graham and you Jacqueline, Jean and well everyone. Regards, -- Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ZMS Ltd
Re: [marketing-events] LCA 2005 OpenOffice.org Miniconf preparations
Jonathon wrote: > The main MiniConfs of interest to OOo people and speakers on this list would be OOoMiniconf :), the Open Computing in Government which is for a lot of government dept people etc, and the Education MiniConf for all the schools etc. Along with the LCA, there are a select number of stalls usually from the sponsors of the events. The miniconfs are listed on: http://www.linux.conf.au/miniconfs.php If you are registered for LCA, then you can attend any of these for free. However, the Open Computing in Government Conference (OCG) is a separate event, and requires registration (and payment) in addition to LCA if you wish to attend. OCG is organised by AUUG, see: http://www.auug.org.au/events/2005/ocg/ Looking quickly at their registration details, you receive a $100 discount if you are registered for LCA. As for the worth of coming to the event, apart from the range of things listed above, there are people at this event that you are unlikely to meet at any other time of year or any place. Yes, some of them will be developer type people, others are lawyers, educators, government depts and everyday users. Having this diversity of events held together brings a greater mix of people to the overall event. It really depends on your purpose. Mine was simply that I was going anyway. I missed the Adelaide LCA, and having participated in the organisation of LCA 2003 in Perth, I want to meet up with the 100s of people that get together at this conference most of whom participate in the same online communities, projects etc that I do. Apart from that, it would be great to put some faces to the names that I have seen. :-) The hardest part about the OOo miniconf is giving up on attending the other miniconfs such as http://www.metadecks.org/events/lca2005/, http://www.debconf.org/miniconf4/, or http://www.openembedded.org/miniconf/ And if it all gets to much, I can always join the http://www.linux.conf.au/partners.php :) Regards Jacqueline
Re: [marketing-events] LCA 2005 OpenOffice.org Miniconf preparations
Graham Lauder wrote: Hi Jonathon, Define the value. I must admit I'm a little concerned myself. Right now I'm a poor student trying to wrangle cash to get to the conference. Not having a OOo/INGOTs focus point would be a bit of a problem. Would you say then that this is pretty much a developers only conference. The programme is general, enterprise and integration of OOo in the morning tending to development in the afternoon, on both days. http://marketing.openoffice.org/conference/miniconf/programme.html There are very few conferences that we can attend where we have the opportunity, particularly for OOo developers, to attract and mentor other potential developers and contributors. Fortunately, in Australia (and surrounds) we have quite a few OOo developers that are not employees of Sun. So their experience will be similar to most other developers starting out on the OOo codebase. As I said in a previous message, if INGOTs assessors and people interested in the INGOTs programme wish to get together, you may wish to propose and organise a BOF for the Wednesday evening. You may also wish to check out the EduLinux miniconf schedule and see if there are presentations that you would prefer to attend. It is called EduLinux, but it really covers OSS in Education. The inaugural EducationaLinux was in Perth, see: http://members.plug.org.au/~leonb/lca2003/, and for last year in Adelaide see: http://educationalinux.adam.com.au/programme.html At this stage you will need to contact the EduLinux organiser, as I don't appear to be able to locate the schedule for EduLinux miniconf http://220.244.126.94/lca/ Regards Jacqueline
Re: [marketing-events] LCA 2005 OpenOffice.org Miniconf preparations
Ian Lynch wrote: I'm about to book air tickets. I am a little worried about travelling the distance if there are no points of focus apart from lectures and talks. Anyone like to reassure me that it will be worthwhile? I can't decide for others what will be worthwhile :) Jonathon has already replied with a summary about LCA, but I would just like to add what we have planned for the OOo Miniconf and other LCA activities, see: http://marketing.openoffice.org/conference/miniconf/programme.html http://marketing.openoffice.org/conference/miniconf/monday.html http://marketing.openoffice.org/conference/miniconf/tuesday.html Information is still coming in, and of course I need plan B, plan C, etc :) During LCA proper, if you stay for that, there is the opportunity to participate with a: - lightning talk http://www.linux.conf.au/lightning.php - poster http://www.linux.conf.au/posters.php - BOF (Wed 20 April 6pm-10pm) http://www.linux.conf.au/bofs.php Depending on your level of registration, you may attend the "Professional Delegates Session" on Thurs night, and the "Conference Dinner" on Friday night. Also, I'm sure that if you know who is going, you may arrange to meet during the week, in and around the lectures and talks. Regards Jacqueline
Re: [marketing-events] LCA 2005 OpenOffice.org Miniconf preparations
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Jacqueline wrote: Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I'm assuming we'll have an OOo booth at the main LCA 2005 conference all week, in addition to a 2-day programme, similar to San Diego. Is this correct? [snip] LCA (http://www.linux.conf.au/) is very unlike DLS. There are no booths at LCA. Some sponsors may have a presence, but this is very low key. Usually spponsors support part of the programme, e.g. dinner, or items in the delegates bag etc. Thanks for the clarification. That's very disappointing for me, because I like being a booth babe. If I had know there would be no booth, I probably would not have signed up to attend. I cannot find anything on http://www.linux.conf.au/ or http://www.openoffice.org.au/miniconf/ to indicate that there were booths. So I'm a bit confused why you thought that might be the case. Oh well, I've paid my entry fee and made my plane reservations, and been accepted as a speaker, so I'll be there. Let me know if there's anything you want me to do. I remember too, that you were one of the first to submit a paper in response to the CfP :) Regards Jacqueline
Re: [marketing-events] LCA 2005 OpenOffice.org Miniconf preparations
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 10:43 +1300, Graham Lauder wrote: > Jonathon Coombes wrote: > > >On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 18:39 +, Ian Lynch wrote: > > > > > >>On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 18:02, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Jacqueline wrote: > >>> > >>> > Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > > >I'm assuming we'll have an OOo booth at the main LCA 2005 conference all > >week, in addition to a 2-day programme, similar to San Diego. Is this > >correct? > > > > > [snip] > > LCA (http://www.linux.conf.au/) is very unlike DLS. > > There are no booths at LCA. Some sponsors may have a presence, but this > is > very low key. Usually spponsors support part of the programme, e.g. > dinner, or items in the delegates bag etc. > > > >>>Thanks for the clarification. That's very disappointing for me, because I > >>>like being a booth babe. If I had know there would be no booth, I probably > >>>would not have signed up to attend. Oh well, I've paid my entry fee and > >>>made my plane reservations, and been accepted as a speaker, so I'll be > >>>there. Let me know if there's anything you want me to do. > >>> > >>> > >>I'm about to book air tickets. I am a little worried about travelling > >>the distance if there are no points of focus apart from lectures and > >>talks. Anyone like to reassure me that it will be worthwhile? > >> > >> > > > >Hi Ian, > > > >Let me just say that I understand Jean's fear of not having booths > >at the LCA, but rest assured, it is well worth it. As someone who > >has been to over half of the LCA's in the past, including the first, > >I can say there is no other conference like it, certainly down under. > > > >LCA is rated among the top 3 conferences of its type in the world. > >Although there are limited booths for LCA, the people and the sponsors > >that you meet there are well worth every dollar spent. > > > > > >There is a problem with LCA currently getting too many participants > >which detracts from the atmosphere of previous conferences. They are > >talking about seperating LCA into a developer focused LCA, and the > >option of a user conference. This user conference, if successful, will > >eventually be the place to do OOo type presentations and will probably > >be much more along the lines of the events you are used to in USA. > > > >Again, even if you come along just for the OOo Miniconf, there are > >people there to meet with and dicuss OOo face to face. Some of these > >people are very knowledgable and would find it useful to put a face > >to other names on the list. :) > > > >Regards > >Jonathon > > > > > Hi Jonathon, > > Define the value. I must admit I'm a little concerned myself. > Right now I'm a poor student trying to wrangle cash to get to the > conference. > Not having a OOo/INGOTs focus point would be a bit of a problem. > Would you say then that this is pretty much a developers only conference. Ok. Let me try and clarify how this event works. This is the largest Linux-based event in Australia/NZ and most of the surrounding region, if not more. It is based on one main conference, the LCA, which is fairly developer focused. Apart from this, you have a number of smaller 1-2 day conferences which are focused around various interest topics such as OOo, gnome, audio etc. These can all be seen on the LCA2005 website at http://lca2005.linux.org.au. The main MiniConfs of interest to OOo people and speakers on this list would be OOoMiniconf :), the Open Computing in Government which is for a lot of government dept people etc, and the Education MiniConf for all the schools etc. Along with the LCA, there are a select number of stalls usually from the sponsors of the events. I am sure that Jacqueline and other people involved in the organising of the OOoMiniconf will try and make it so that promotions or "advertising" can be done to the largest possible extent, but limitations are imposed currently as it is part of the LCA larger event. If it seperates off in the future, then it is up to the organisers to determine the marketing. As for the worth of coming to the event, apart from the range of things listed above, there are people at this event that you are unlikely to meet at any other time of year or any place. Yes, some of them will be developer type people, others are lawyers, educators, government depts and everyday users. Having this diversity of events held together brings a greater mix of people to the overall event. Apart from that, it would be great to put some faces to the names that I have seen. :-) Regards Jonathon -- OOo Tips (RSS) - http://mindmeld.cybersite.com.au/tips.rss OOo Knowledgebase - http://mindmeld.cybersite.com.au/ Cybersite Consulting - http://www.cybersite.com.au/ Training4Linux - http://www.training4linux.com
Re: [marketing-events] LCA 2005 OpenOffice.org Miniconf preparations
Jonathon Coombes wrote: On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 18:39 +, Ian Lynch wrote: On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 18:02, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Jacqueline wrote: Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I'm assuming we'll have an OOo booth at the main LCA 2005 conference all week, in addition to a 2-day programme, similar to San Diego. Is this correct? [snip] LCA (http://www.linux.conf.au/) is very unlike DLS. There are no booths at LCA. Some sponsors may have a presence, but this is very low key. Usually spponsors support part of the programme, e.g. dinner, or items in the delegates bag etc. Thanks for the clarification. That's very disappointing for me, because I like being a booth babe. If I had know there would be no booth, I probably would not have signed up to attend. Oh well, I've paid my entry fee and made my plane reservations, and been accepted as a speaker, so I'll be there. Let me know if there's anything you want me to do. I'm about to book air tickets. I am a little worried about travelling the distance if there are no points of focus apart from lectures and talks. Anyone like to reassure me that it will be worthwhile? Hi Ian, Let me just say that I understand Jean's fear of not having booths at the LCA, but rest assured, it is well worth it. As someone who has been to over half of the LCA's in the past, including the first, I can say there is no other conference like it, certainly down under. LCA is rated among the top 3 conferences of its type in the world. Although there are limited booths for LCA, the people and the sponsors that you meet there are well worth every dollar spent. There is a problem with LCA currently getting too many participants which detracts from the atmosphere of previous conferences. They are talking about seperating LCA into a developer focused LCA, and the option of a user conference. This user conference, if successful, will eventually be the place to do OOo type presentations and will probably be much more along the lines of the events you are used to in USA. Again, even if you come along just for the OOo Miniconf, there are people there to meet with and dicuss OOo face to face. Some of these people are very knowledgable and would find it useful to put a face to other names on the list. :) Regards Jonathon Hi Jonathon, Define the value. I must admit I'm a little concerned myself. Right now I'm a poor student trying to wrangle cash to get to the conference. Not having a OOo/INGOTs focus point would be a bit of a problem. Would you say then that this is pretty much a developers only conference. Cheers Yo
Re: [marketing-events] LCA 2005 OpenOffice.org Miniconf preparations
On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 21:18, Jonathon Coombes wrote: > On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 18:39 +, Ian Lynch wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 18:02, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > > Jacqueline wrote: > > > >Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > > >>I'm assuming we'll have an OOo booth at the main LCA 2005 conference > > > >>all > > > >>week, in addition to a 2-day programme, similar to San Diego. Is this > > > >>correct? > > > >[snip] > > > > > > > >LCA (http://www.linux.conf.au/) is very unlike DLS. > > > > > > > >There are no booths at LCA. Some sponsors may have a presence, but this > > > >is > > > >very low key. Usually spponsors support part of the programme, e.g. > > > >dinner, or items in the delegates bag etc. > > > > > > Thanks for the clarification. That's very disappointing for me, because I > > > like being a booth babe. If I had know there would be no booth, I > > > probably > > > would not have signed up to attend. Oh well, I've paid my entry fee and > > > made my plane reservations, and been accepted as a speaker, so I'll be > > > there. Let me know if there's anything you want me to do. > > > > I'm about to book air tickets. I am a little worried about travelling > > the distance if there are no points of focus apart from lectures and > > talks. Anyone like to reassure me that it will be worthwhile? > > Hi Ian, > > Let me just say that I understand Jean's fear of not having booths > at the LCA, but rest assured, it is well worth it. As someone who > has been to over half of the LCA's in the past, including the first, > I can say there is no other conference like it, certainly down under. > > LCA is rated among the top 3 conferences of its type in the world. > Although there are limited booths for LCA, the people and the sponsors > that you meet there are well worth every dollar spent. > > There is a problem with LCA currently getting too many participants > which detracts from the atmosphere of previous conferences. They are > talking about seperating LCA into a developer focused LCA, and the > option of a user conference. This user conference, if successful, will > eventually be the place to do OOo type presentations and will probably > be much more along the lines of the events you are used to in USA. Actually I'm a Brit :-) Since I was in Sydney then New Zealand then the USA within the last month coming to OZ again is a fairly long trip - I still haven't recovered from the last lot of Jet Lag! But since Ian Laurenson wants to meet me, how can I say no :-) And of course if Jean is up for a glass of wine and promises me she dropped that bottle of penguin pee we had at San Diego in the bin its all systems go. > Again, even if you come along just for the OOo Miniconf, there are > people there to meet with and dicuss OOo face to face. Some of these > people are very knowledgable and would find it useful to put a face > to other names on the list. :) > > Regards > Jonathon -- Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ZMS Ltd
Re: [marketing-events] LCA 2005 OpenOffice.org Miniconf preparations
On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 18:02, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > Jacqueline wrote: > >Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > >>I'm assuming we'll have an OOo booth at the main LCA 2005 conference all > >>week, in addition to a 2-day programme, similar to San Diego. Is this > >>correct? > >[snip] > > > >LCA (http://www.linux.conf.au/) is very unlike DLS. > > > >There are no booths at LCA. Some sponsors may have a presence, but this is > >very low key. Usually spponsors support part of the programme, e.g. > >dinner, or items in the delegates bag etc. > > Thanks for the clarification. That's very disappointing for me, because I > like being a booth babe. If I had know there would be no booth, I probably > would not have signed up to attend. Oh well, I've paid my entry fee and > made my plane reservations, and been accepted as a speaker, so I'll be > there. Let me know if there's anything you want me to do. I'm about to book air tickets. I am a little worried about travelling the distance if there are no points of focus apart from lectures and talks. Anyone like to reassure me that it will be worthwhile? -- Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ZMS Ltd
Re: [marketing-events] LCA 2005 OpenOffice.org Miniconf preparations
Jacqueline wrote: Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I'm assuming we'll have an OOo booth at the main LCA 2005 conference all week, in addition to a 2-day programme, similar to San Diego. Is this correct? [snip] LCA (http://www.linux.conf.au/) is very unlike DLS. There are no booths at LCA. Some sponsors may have a presence, but this is very low key. Usually spponsors support part of the programme, e.g. dinner, or items in the delegates bag etc. Thanks for the clarification. That's very disappointing for me, because I like being a booth babe. If I had know there would be no booth, I probably would not have signed up to attend. Oh well, I've paid my entry fee and made my plane reservations, and been accepted as a speaker, so I'll be there. Let me know if there's anything you want me to do. Jean
Re: [marketing-events] LCA 2005 OpenOffice.org Miniconf preparations
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I'm assuming we'll have an OOo booth at the main LCA 2005 conference all week, in addition to a 2-day programme, similar to San Diego. Is this correct? [snip] LCA (http://www.linux.conf.au/) is very unlike DLS. There are no booths at LCA. Some sponsors may have a presence, but this is very low key. Usually spponsors support part of the programme, e.g. dinner, or items in the delegates bag etc. Regards Jacqueline
