William,
On 12 Aug 2012, at 18:01, William R. Buckley wrote:
Roger:
Nothing in the universe is objective. Objectivity is an ideal.
When the physicist seeks to make some measure of the
physical universe, he or she necessarily must use some other
part of the physical universe by which to
On 12 Aug 2012, at 19:52, Brian Tenneson wrote:
This is already a consequence of computer science. All sound
machines looking inward, or doing self-reference, cannot avoid the
discovery between what they can justify with words, and what they
can intuit as truth.
What do justify and
On 12 Aug 2012, at 20:05, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi Roger,
I will interleave some remarks.
On 8/11/2012 7:37 AM, Roger wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
As I understand it, Leibniz's pre-established harmony is analogous to
a musical score with God, or at least some super-intelligence, as
Dear Stephen,
On 12 Aug 2012, at 20:15, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 8/12/2012 10:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 12 Aug 2012, at 16:29, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
snip
Is it possible to say that compatibilism is equivalent to Leibniz'
pre-established harmony?
Thiscan be *one* interpretation
On 13 Aug 2012, at 00:32, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 04:24:22PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 12 Aug 2012, at 11:45, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:01:09AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 11 Aug 2012, at 09:45, Russell Standish wrote:
On 13 Aug 2012, at 06:42, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/12/2012 1:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Let phi_i be an enumeration of the (partial) computable function.
u is universal if phi_u(x, y) = phi_x(y). (x,y) = some number
code for the couple (x, y)
So can y be some number code for a pair (a,b)
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
William,
On 12 Aug 2012, at 18:01, William R. Buckley wrote:
The physical universe is purely subjective.
That follows from comp in a constructive way, that is, by giving the means
to derive physics from a
Hi Roger,
Natural life and natural/biological intelligence, although in a very
slow pace, have more than a bilion years of evolution. New forms of life
and intelligence are just in its beginning, but in a very very high
evolution speed due to a kind of men/machine/web symbiosis. Be patient...:)
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.auwrote:
If you look at what I actually say [about free will] (page 167 of ToN),
It is the ability for a conscious entity to do somthing irrational. [...]
Clearly the concept of rationality is also a can of worms
Yes indeed
Hi Jason,
On 13 Aug 2012, at 17:04, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
William,
On 12 Aug 2012, at 18:01, William R. Buckley wrote:
The physical universe is purely subjective.
That follows from comp in a constructive way, that
When this cowboy has to write a score, there are always the constraints of
what client/audience expect; even if they expect breaking a set of
conventions.
But the actual writing, the 1p experience of it, is out of my control. If I
am afforded conditions to be allowed to be open for surprise, this
On 13 Aug 2012, at 17:55, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
When this cowboy has to write a score, there are always the
constraints of what client/audience expect; even if they expect
breaking a set of conventions.
But the actual writing, the 1p experience of it, is out of my
control. If I
On 8/13/2012 7:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The infinite tape is only a rather misleading pedagogical folklore. Example of universal
number are brain, computer, programming language interpreters, etc. Universal pattern
in the game of life are finite pattern. The infinite tape here is the
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Roger rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Life is whatever can experience its surroundings, nonlife cannot do so.
And if Intelligence is defined as what ever a computer can't do (yet) then
it's not surprising that as of this date Artificial Intelligence has not
achieved
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On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 03:56:35PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Aug 2012, at 00:32, Russell Standish wrote:
OK. But the question is: would an agent lost free-will in case no
random oracle is available?
I would have thought so.
I don't see why this would entail comp is
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Roger rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Evgenii Rudnyi
This is not going to make you computer folks happy, sorry.
Life is whatever can experience its surroundings,
nonlife cannot do so. That's the difference.
Intelligence requires the ability to experience
Bruno:
From the perspective of semiotic theory, a subjective universe
seems rather obvious.
Consider that the Turing machine is computational omniscient
solely as a consequence of its construction, and yet, it can hardly
be said that the engineer who designed the Turing machine (why,
Please, a few foundational references on COMP that I
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William,
I hope these might help:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_theory_of_mind
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/computational-mind/
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/chinese-room/
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/publications/MPI_15-MAI-91.pdf
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Hi Jason,
On 13 Aug 2012, at 17:04, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
William,
On 12 Aug 2012, at 18:01, William R. Buckley wrote:
The physical
On 8/13/2012 9:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 12 Aug 2012, at 20:05, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi Roger,
I will interleave some remarks.
On 8/11/2012 7:37 AM, Roger wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
As I understand it, Leibniz's pre-established harmony is analogous to
a musical score with God, or
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