Hi Roger, "Natural life" and "natural/biological intelligence", although in a very slow pace, have more than a bilion years of evolution. New forms of life and intelligence are just in its beginning, but in a very very high evolution speed due to a kind of men/machine/web symbiosis. Be patient...:)
Roberto Szabo, [email protected] 2012/8/12 Roger <[email protected]> > Hi Evgenii Rudnyi > > This is not going to make you computer folks happy, sorry. > > Life is whatever can experience its surroundings, > nonlife cannot do so. That's the difference. > > Intelligence requires the ability to experience what it is selecting. > So only life can have intelligence. > > Life is subjective, nonlife is objective. > > Computers cannot experience anything because they are not subjective, > only objective. Everytthing must be in words, not directly experienced. > Thus computers cannot be (truly) intelligent. And AI is impossible, > because only living items can experience the world.. > > > Roger , [email protected] > 8/12/2012 > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > *From:* Evgenii Rudnyi <[email protected]> > *Receiver:* everything-list <[email protected]> > *Time:* 2012-08-11, 10:22:44 > *Subject:* Re: Definitions of intelligence possibly useful to computers > in AI ordescribing life > > On 11.08.2012 15:13 Stephen P. King said the following: > > On 8/11/2012 4:30 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: > >> On 10.08.2012 00:55 Russell Standish said the following: > >>> The point being that life need not be intelligent. In fact 999.9% of > >>> life (but whatever measure, numbers, biomass etc) is unintelligent. > >>> > >>> The study of artificial life by the same reason need not be a study of > >>> artitificial intelligence, although because of a biases as an > >>> intelligent species, a significantly higher fraction of alife research > >>> is about AI. > >>> > >> > >> What does intelligence means in this context that life is > >> unintelligent? Let us compare for example a bacterium and a rock. > >> Where there is more intelligence? > >> > >> Evgenii > >> > > Dear Evgenii, > > > > A bacterium and a rock should not be put head to (no)head in this > > question. A bacterium has autonomy while a rock does not. It is better > > to see that the rock is just a small piece of an autonomous whole and > > then compare that whole to the (whole) bacterium. > > > > My goal was just to try to understand what Russell meant by life is > unintelligent. Say let us take some creations of AI and compare them > with a bacterium. Where do we find more intelligence? > > Evgenii > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected].<[email protected].> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+ > [email protected]. <[email protected].> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
