On 3/20/2015 9:18 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:36 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/20/2015 3:43 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 9:25 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 20 March 2015 at 20:57, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
A fundamental difference in science is
On 21 Mar 2015, at 03:31, PGC wrote:
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 2:32:55 AM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote:
If three people asks me to no more answer to Clark, I will avoid it.
There is something like not feeding the troll.
Asking you to do such would imply that there is something to
On 21 Mar 2015, at 04:00, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/20/2015 6:32 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 20 Mar 2015, at 20:51, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Then the Turing Test works for consciousness and not just for
intelligence.
It can give an
On 21 Mar 2015, at 04:37, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 2:30 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 March 2015 at 08:51, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
Because I spotted a blunder in the proof about 3 years ago and despite
reams of blather in hundreds of posts you were unable to fix it. Only a
fool would keep
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
I remember a long discussion where John ended up changing his claim that
step 3 was wrong to it just being trivial. But then he still refused to
keep reading. At this point I decided he was not serious about the issue.
It's
We can yap about technology but it's all out of our hands. Nuclear fission has
taken permanent hit because of its cost$. It's not safety that halted uranium,
but money. In a darwinian fashion, natural gas has superseded uranium, from a
cost-price ratio. Could fission or solar re-take the hill
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Subject: Re: TEPCO admits Fukushima Daiichi Unit 1 core completely melted down
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015
On 21 Mar 2015, at 01:19, PGC wrote:
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 10:23:20 AM UTC+1, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2015-03-19 23:44 GMT+01:00 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:55 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Reactors are either water cooled or air cooled. Graphite is used as a
moderator to slow the neutrons and increase fission
I know that.
not as a coolant.
Slowing the neutrons is also called cooling them.
Heavy
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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I disagree. Assuming the above is true, and it probably is, that would
be WONDERFUL news. In a water cooled reactor, the sort that is used
everywhere ( except for Chernobyl and other
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We can yap about technology but it's all out of
It seems that the fabian-gnostic apocalypticist sectarians that kidnapped
Harward are preparing other possible apocalyptic alternatives just in case
the favorite one is not convincing. Note that all the scenarios are due to
the existence of human beings.
2015-03-21 3:45 GMT+01:00 meekerdb
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On 3/20/2015 8:57 PM, 'Chris
Its all driven by cash as we all agree. The competition between the oil and nat
gas producers has driven prices way down. I am guessing this is a temporary
thing. Perhaps if the Gulf of Hormuz closes, prices will climb horribly, (for
us). Uranium fission, unless there is a technical advance in
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On 3/20/2015 9:18 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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On 3/20/2015 10:43 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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On 3/21/2015 1:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 21 Mar 2015, at 04:00, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/20/2015 6:32 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 20 Mar 2015, at 20:51, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Then the Turing
It is the p in []p p, which makes machine's knowledge not definable
in term of number and machine. S4Grz formalizable at a level, what the
machine cannot formalize about herself (but can bet on, ...).
Thanks to incompleteness, the Theaetetus' definition makes sense, and
distinguish the
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 6:31 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
I remember a long discussion where John ended up changing his claim that
step 3 was wrong to it just being trivial. But then he still refused to
keep
On 3/21/2015 9:05 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
We can yap about technology but it's all out of our hands. Nuclear fission has taken
permanent hit because of its cost$. It's not safety that halted uranium, but money. In a
darwinian fashion, natural gas has superseded uranium, from
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:08 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/21/2015 9:05 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
We can yap about technology but it's all out of our hands. Nuclear fission
has taken permanent hit because of its cost$. It's not safety that halted
uranium,
On 21 March 2015 at 15:45, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/20/2015 6:25 PM,
...but not in a good way.
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/347/6223/1259855.abstract
That's actually more sanguine that I expected. I would have estimated
climate change as high risk (does beyond
On 3/21/2015 12:04 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Its all driven by cash as we all agree. The competition between the oil and nat gas
producers has driven prices way down. I am guessing this is a temporary thing. Perhaps
if the Gulf of Hormuz closes, prices will climb horribly, (for
On 22 March 2015 at 00:55, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
Note that all the scenarios are due to the existence of human beings.
That isn't too surprising, given that we're the only technologically
advanced race ever to appear on the planet (Lovecraft aside).
--
You received
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Competence and intelligence are different things
If something made of protoplasm does it then it's intelligent, but if
something made of silicon and does the exact same thing then it's only
competent; I said it before I'll say it
Your reasoning seems good about environmental damage, but I feel that the tech
being employed is not as robust, that is to say rugged as we need it. I would
rather have supposedly safer, small scale uranium boxes everywhere, that need
zero coolant, then what has so far been produced. The
On 21 March 2015 at 22:35, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
I remember a long discussion where John ended up changing his claim that
step 3 was wrong to it just being trivial. But then he still refused to
keep reading. At this point I decided he was not serious about the issue.
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:23 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
John appears to just not want to think about it, he's sure it's wrong and
he refuses to contemplate the possibility that *he's* wrong,
Just give me some reason the think it might not be worthless, but for the
last 3 years nobody
On 22 Mar 2015, at 10:56 am, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Competence and intelligence are different things
If something made of protoplasm does it then it's intelligent, but if
something made of silicon and does
On 22 March 2015 at 15:40, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:23 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
John appears to just not want to think about it, he's sure it's wrong
and he refuses to contemplate the possibility that *he's* wrong,
Just give me some
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