Botanical Entheogenic Mechanism (Was: Re: Making money via quantum suicide)

2008-06-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 27 Jun 2008, at 20:52, Tom Caylor wrote: On Jun 8, 2:43 pm, Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06 Jun 2008, at 23:35, Tom Caylor wrote: ... One consistent configuration is that we are all immortal and that part of this immortal being is something that is outside of what we

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi jal278, Le 23-juin-08, à 19:08, jal278 a écrit : First time post. You are welcome. Would it be possible to use the principles of QS as an oracle? E.g. buy a lotto ticket before taking a flight, with the intention that if you win some improbable amount in the lotto you do not take

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-27 Thread Brent Meeker
Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi jal278, ... Similarly, assuming that QI is true, the survival probabilities at the end cases (where you are 150 yrs old) would get to be incredibly small, such that perhaps healthy decisions made when you are younger (i.e. never smoke, keep fit)

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-27 Thread Tom Caylor
On Jun 8, 2:43 pm, Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06 Jun 2008, at 23:35, Tom Caylor wrote: ... One consistent configuration is that we are all immortal and that part of this immortal being is something that is outside of what we can observe scientifically, including other

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-27 Thread Tom Caylor
Welcome. I see that you use the word intention several times. It seems that this is the word/notion on which your tries pivot, and I think this is also the downfall. I think that intention is a very good part of reality, but it can find its meaning only when coupled with the humility that we

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-27 Thread Günther Greindl
Tom, which requires repeatability. Love (the mysterious force of good relationship between persons) does not work within a scientific you should have a look at the rich literature on love, which is the subject of (ever growing) scientific study. Here a small beginning:

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-23 Thread jal278
First time post. Would it be possible to use the principles of QS as an oracle? E.g. buy a lotto ticket before taking a flight, with the intention that if you win some improbable amount in the lotto you do not take the flight. Perhaps this flight was extremely likely to crash and your odds of

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Jun 2008, at 23:35, Tom Caylor wrote: I guess I could see that it could be consistent that from each of our perspectives eventually we are the only one left in the mulitverse, if we were all cut-off from each other, essentially in separate universes or histories. But with all of

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-07 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2008/6/7 Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You don't. You just outlive everyone else in the (very, very tiny, and shrinking) hyperplane of Hilbert space where quantum randomness has contrived to save you from death (but not from disability :-( ). On other very tiny, shrinking hyperplanes

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-06 Thread Tom Caylor
Assuming comp, or quantum immortality, is it true that from my perspective I will outlive everyone else, and from your perspective you will outlive everyone else? If so, how can this be? One consistent configuration is that we are all immortal and that part of this immortal being is something

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-06 Thread Tom Caylor
I guess I could see that it could be consistent that from each of our perspectives eventually we are the only one left in the mulitverse, if we were all cut-off from each other, essentially in separate universes or histories. But with all of the appealing aspects (that have been brought up in

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-06 Thread Brent Meeker
Tom Caylor wrote: Assuming comp, or quantum immortality, is it true that from my perspective I will outlive everyone else, and from your perspective you will outlive everyone else? If so, how can this be? You don't. You just outlive everyone else in the (very, very tiny, and shrinking)

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-06 Thread Brent Meeker
Tom Caylor wrote: I guess I could see that it could be consistent that from each of our perspectives eventually we are the only one left in the mulitverse, if we were all cut-off from each other, essentially in separate universes or histories. But with all of the appealing aspects (that have

Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-05 Thread Lawrence
Forgive me if the following comment is ill-thought through as this is my first post to the group. It appears to me that, assuming QS is true, I should bet some reasonably substantial amount of cash at the local bookies that I will live to 110 or 120 years of age. Of course I will be around to

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Lawrence, welcome, You have to be more precise on the betting procedure. You will win the bet against people who, from your personal point of view, will most probably be dead at the time. How do you intent to recover the money? Bruno On 05 Jun 2008, at 15:28, Lawrence wrote: Forgive

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-05 Thread Tom Caylor
Why is it that from my first person perspective other people die? Perhaps a different question: Why is it that from your first person perspective other people die? Tom On Jun 5, 8:27 am, Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lawrence, welcome, You have to be more precise on the betting