On 20/09/2007, Hal Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The lifetime formulation also captures the intuition many people have
that consciousness should not jump around as observer moments are
created in the various simulations and scenarios we imagine in our
thought experiments. That was the
[By the way, I notice that I do not receive my own postings back in email,
which makes my archive incomplete. Does anyone know if there is a way to
configure the mailing list reflector to give me back my own messages?]
Russell Standish wrote:
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 12:10:33PM -0700, Hal Finney
Stathis Papaioannou writes:
On 20/09/2007, Hal Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The lifetime formulation also captures the intuition many people have
that consciousness should not jump around as observer moments are
created in the various simulations and scenarios we imagine in our
On 21/09/2007, Hal Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as functionalism, I agree that this kind of analysis argues
against it. Indeed the post from Wei Dai which introduced this concept,
which I quote here, http://www.udassa.com/origins.html (apologies for the
incompleteness of this web
On 21/09/2007, Hal Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You will probably agree that there are some branches of the multiverse
where you did indeed die five minutes ago, and perhaps people are
standing around staring in shock at your dead body. And supposing that
you had just had a narrow escape
[I want to first note for the benefit of readers that I am Hal Finney
and no relation to Hal Ruhl - it can be confusing having two Hal's on
the list!]
Rolf Nelson writes:
UDASSA (if I'm interpreting it right, Hal?) says:
1. The measure of programs that produce OM (I am experiencing A, and
I
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 12:10:33PM -0700, Hal Finney wrote:
The lifetime formulation also captures the intuition many people have
that consciousness should not jump around as observer moments are
created in the various simulations and scenarios we imagine in our
thought experiments. That was
Hal wrote:
Yes, as you note later this is very similar to the concept I called
UD+ASSA or just UDASSA and described in a series of postings to this
list back in 2005. It was not original with me but actually was based
on an idea of Wei Dai, who founded this last way back in 1998. I was
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 01:25:04PM -, Rolf Nelson wrote:
If I understand the Measure Problem correctly, we wonder why we find
ourselves in a Goldilocks Universe of stars and galaxies rather than
a simpler universe consisting solely of blackbody radiation, or a more
complex,
Le 15-sept.-07, à 15:25, Rolf Nelson a écrit :
If I understand the Measure Problem correctly, we wonder why we find
ourselves in a Goldilocks Universe of stars and galaxies rather than
a simpler universe consisting solely of blackbody radiation, or a more
complex, unpredictable Harry Potter
World-Index-Compression Postulate: The most probable way for the
output of a random UTM program to be a single qualia, is through
having a part of the program calculate a Universe, U, that is similar
to the universe we currently are observing; and then having another
part of the program
and would get angry if I punched it
I meant to say, would punch me back if I punched it. It's begging
the question for the search algorithm to know whether the internal
mental state is angry.
-Rolf
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The considerations trying to solve the measure problem have not been
that primitive, but much better. The concept of a cubic meter won't
make sense in most of the universes, and to compare infinities in a
rigorous manner is nothing new to mathematicians. Both, Standish and
Schmidhuber (and
Steven Smithee is not just a Black Belt Bayesian, but a Black Belt at
Keeping Track of Who Has Said What About Cool Topics in Web Pages that
are Linked To from Nowhere Else on the Internet. He pointed out
http://udassa.com/summary1.html, where someone (Hal Finney, if we go
by 'whois') said:
A
Rolf writes:
World-Index-Compression Postulate: The most probable way for the
output of a random UTM program to be a single qualia, is through
having a part of the program calculate a Universe, U, that is similar
to the universe we currently are observing; and then having another
part of the
If I understand the Measure Problem correctly, we wonder why we find
ourselves in a Goldilocks Universe of stars and galaxies rather than
a simpler universe consisting solely of blackbody radiation, or a more
complex, unpredictable Harry Potter universe.
1. An attempt at the solution was that
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