Re: Positive AI

2018-01-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 31 Jan 2018, at 03:14, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/29/2018 2:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 29 Jan 2018, at 01:35, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/28/2018 6:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 26 Jan 2018, at 02:49, Brent

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-30 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/29/2018 2:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 29 Jan 2018, at 01:35, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/28/2018 6:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Jan 2018, at 02:49, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: A brain, if this is

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 29 Jan 2018, at 01:35, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/28/2018 6:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 26 Jan 2018, at 02:49, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: A brain, if this is confirmed, is a

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-28 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/28/2018 6:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Jan 2018, at 02:49, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: A brain, if this is confirmed, is a consciousness filter. It makes us less conscious, and even less intelligent, but more efficacious

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 26 Jan 2018, at 05:53, 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 5:49 PM, Brent Meeker > wrote:

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 26 Jan 2018, at 02:49, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> A brain, if this is confirmed, is a consciousness filter. It makes us less >> conscious, and even less intelligent, but more efficacious in the >> terrestrial plane. > >

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 26 Jan 2018, at 01:12, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> So do you hold that one can be conscious without having learned anything - >>> even the lessons of evolution? >> >> I guess so. Evolution would only make the

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-25 Thread 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 5:49 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > A brain, if this is confirmed, is a consciousness filter. It makes us > less conscious, and even less intelligent, but more efficacious

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-25 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: A brain, if this is confirmed, is a consciousness filter. It makes us less conscious, and even less intelligent, but more efficacious in the terrestrial plane. But a little interference with it and our consciousness is drastically changed...that's

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-25 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: So do you hold that one can be conscious without having learned anything - even the lessons of evolution? I guess so. Evolution would only make the universal consciousness differentiate on sophisticated rich path/histories. The universal

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 25 Jan 2018, at 01:05, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/24/2018 1:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 24 Jan 2018, at 02:28, Brent Meeker >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/23/2018 3:18 PM,

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-24 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/24/2018 1:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 24 Jan 2018, at 02:28, Brent Meeker > wrote: On 1/23/2018 3:18 PM, 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List wrote: On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 24 Jan 2018, at 02:28, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/23/2018 3:18 PM, 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com ' > via Everything List wrote: >> >>> >>> On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > Sleep probably serves multiple and also

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 23 Jan 2018, at 07:00, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> Sleep probably serves multiple and also orthogonal functions in animals. >>> I agree as well, that on some levels it is a deep mystery. >> >> It is death training,

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 23 Jan 2018, at 06:02, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal > wrote: > >>

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-23 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/23/2018 3:18 PM, 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List wrote: On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Sleep probably serves multiple and also orthogonal functions in animals. I agree as well, that on some levels it is a deep

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-23 Thread 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List
On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Sleep probably serves multiple and also orthogonal functions in animals. I agree as well, that on some levels it is a deep mystery. It is death training, perhaps, also. Didn't we just discuss a paper showing that one is

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-23 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/22/2018 11:24 PM, 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List wrote: Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 10:00 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-22 Thread 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 10:00 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Sleep probably serves multiple and also orthogonal functions in animals. I agree as well, that on some levels it is a

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-22 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Sleep probably serves multiple and also orthogonal functions in animals. I agree as well, that on some levels it is a deep mystery. It is death training, perhaps, also. Didn't we just discuss a paper showing that one is conscious

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-22 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Jan 2018, at 06:22, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 6:01 AM, Bruno

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 19 Jan 2018, at 06:22, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 6:01 AM, Bruno Marchal >

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-18 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 6:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Jan 2018, at 21:12, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/17/2018 12:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Jan 2018, at 14:29, K E N O

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-18 Thread 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/16/2018 11:54 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Brent Meeker

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 17 Jan 2018, at 21:12, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/17/2018 12:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 16 Jan 2018, at 14:29, K E N O >> > wrote: >>> >>> Oh, no! As an media art student, I don’t believe in

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-17 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/17/2018 12:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Jan 2018, at 14:29, K E N O > wrote: Oh, no! As an media art student, I don’t believe in strict rules oft usefulness (of course!). It was a rather suggestive or maybe even sarcastic

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-17 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/16/2018 11:54 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/16/2018 8:55 PM, 'Chris de Morsella'

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 16 Jan 2018, at 14:29, K E N O wrote: > > Oh, no! As an media art student, I don’t believe in strict rules oft > usefulness (of course!). It was a rather suggestive or maybe even sarcastic > approach to get unusual thoughts from everything. > Maybe I should rephrase

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-16 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/16/2018 8:55 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: --What is the craziest AI application you can think of? A machine learned pet translator perhaps...

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-16 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/16/2018 8:55 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: --What is the craziest AI application you can think of? A machine learned pet translator perhaps... they're actually working on that app, Amazon amongst others. So, it seems the big players Google as well, are running in

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-16 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
--What is the craziest AI application you can think of? A machine learned pet translator perhaps... they're actually working on that app, Amazon amongst others.So, it seems the big players Google as well, are running in that race... think of the potential market of pet owners forking over their

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-16 Thread K E N O
Oh, no! As an media art student, I don’t believe in strict rules oft usefulness (of course!). It was a rather suggestive or maybe even sarcastic approach to get unusual thoughts from everything. Maybe I should rephrase my question: What is the craziest AI application you can think of? K E N O

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-15 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Jan 2018, at 20:48, K E N O wrote: Nice! Can you imagine something totally useless as an application of AI? What would you creative if you just wanted

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 12 Jan 2018, at 20:48, K E N O wrote: > > Nice! Can you imagine something totally useless as an application of AI? What > would you creative if you just wanted to have fun with AI? Are you suggesting that fun is useless? I can agree that the idea that fun has

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-12 Thread Telmo Menezes
Sure! Things that generate interesting images, sounds or videos. One of my favorite simple ideas is to use genetic programming (an AI approach based on pseudo-Darwinian evolution of computer programs -- it's much simpler than it sounds) to evolve functions that define images, for example by

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-12 Thread K E N O
Nice! Can you imagine something totally useless as an application of AI? What would you creative if you just wanted to have fun with AI? K E N O > Am 12.01.2018 um 14:43 schrieb Telmo Menezes : > > Hi Lara, > > My view is that, as with all scientific theories and

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-12 Thread Telmo Menezes
Hi Lara, My view is that, as with all scientific theories and technologies, AI is morally neutral. it has the potential for both extremely good and extremely nasty practical applications. That being said, the unusual thing about AI is that it has the potential to generate *something that replaces