Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2017-01-03 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> ​>> ​ >>> "Free Will" is the inability to always predict what you will do before >>> you do it even if the environment is predictable. By this definition your >>> computer has free will because when you ask it to multiply 96854 by 79446 >

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2017-01-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Jan 2017, at 04:45, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​>> ​"Free Will" is the inability to always predict what you will do before you do it even if the environment is predictable. By this definition your computer has free will because when you

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2017-01-02 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> ​>> ​ >> "Free Will" is the inability to always predict what you will do before >> you do it even if the environment is predictable. By this definition your >> computer has free will because when you ask it to multiply 96854 by 79446 >> it

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2017-01-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Oct 2016, at 23:20, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​Well, if we assume computationalism, Carroll's equation does not solve the mind-body problem. ​Nobody has the answer to the mind body problem because nobody ​ knows exactly what the q

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2016-10-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
othing fancy. "Explaining" is meant in pure epiphenomenal fashion: an equation spontaneously appeared on a sheet of paper, nothing else. What do you think? Could it be possible to invent a self-explaining Game of Life in that sense? Evgenii P.S. Carroll's Game of Life: http://www

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2016-10-21 Thread John Mikes
the determinism. At the same time, he says that >>>> his equation is the very strong intellectual achievement of the >>>> mankind. >>>> >>>> I thought that it could be possible to invent some sort of the Game >>>> of Life whe

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2016-10-18 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​ > Well, if we assume computationalism, Carroll's equation does not solve the > mind-body problem. > ​Nobody has the answer to the mind body problem because nobody ​knows exactly what the question is. ​ > ​>> ​ >> The one problem I hav

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2016-10-18 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
Am 16.10.2016 um 19:32 schrieb John Clark: ... No, I do not know what life is. I guess, nobody does. ​You know what life is you just don't have a definition, but you have something much better, examples. After being given a few examples of things that are alive and things that are not it's e

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2016-10-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Oct 2016, at 19:32, John Clark wrote: Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: ​> ​I have listened to Sean Carroll's Big Picture. ​I read his book too.​ ​> ​His world view is actually similar to the Game of Life, well, the rules are a bit more complicated. Below is the link to the equation that he

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2016-10-16 Thread John Clark
Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: ​> ​ > I have listened to Sean Carroll's Big Picture. ​I read his book too.​ > ​> ​ > His world view is actually similar to the Game of Life, well, the rules > are a bit more complicated. Below is the link to the equation that he > proposes. > ​ Carroll's equation ​is​

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2016-10-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
ant in pure epiphenomenal fashion: an equation spontaneously appeared on a sheet of paper, nothing else. What do you think? Could it be possible to invent a self-explaining Game of Life in that sense? It is a standard result in mathematical logic that this is what happens already in elementar

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2016-10-15 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
such a game. I should mention that I mean nothing fancy. "Explaining" is meant in pure epiphenomenal fashion: an equation spontaneously appeared on a sheet of paper, nothing else. What do you think? Could it be possible to invent a self-explaining Game of Life in that sense? I

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2016-10-15 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
John, At the level of common sense everything looks clear. Yet, when we start to consider the question scientifically, something strange happens: the common sense answer disappears, yet there is no other answer. Evgenii Am 15.10.2016 um 17:51 schrieb John Mikes: OK, Evgenii, I am game. Do y

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2016-10-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
ogous to what Carroll says. Well, it is hard to say in what form the rules of the game should appear, but this after all gives some freedom to invent such a game. I should mention that I mean nothing fancy. "Explaining" is meant in pure epiphenomenal fashion: an equation spontaneously appea

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2016-10-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
sly appeared on a sheet of paper, nothing else. What do you think? Could it be possible to invent a self-explaining Game of Life in that sense? It is a standard result in mathematical logic that this is what happens already in elementary arithmetic. Even just he polynomial diophantine equa

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2016-10-15 Thread John Mikes
e Game >>> of Life where during the system evolution one gets the rule of the >>> game printed on the screen. In my view, this should be somewhat >>> analogous to what Carroll says. Well, it is hard to say in what >>> form the rules of the game should appear, but this a

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2016-10-15 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
ed on a sheet of paper, nothing else. What do you think? Could it be possible to invent a self-explaining Game of Life in that sense? Evgenii P.S. Carroll's Game of Life: http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2013/01/04/the- world-of-everyday-experience-in-one-equation/ -- You received this messa

Re: Self-explaining Game of Life?

2016-10-14 Thread John Mikes
"Explaining" is meant in pure > epiphenomenal fashion: an equation spontaneously appeared on a sheet of > paper, nothing else. > > What do you think? Could it be possible to invent a self-explaining Game > of Life in that sense? > > Evgenii > > P.S. Carroll's Game

Self-explaining Game of Life?

2016-10-11 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
fancy. "Explaining" is meant in pure epiphenomenal fashion: an equation spontaneously appeared on a sheet of paper, nothing else. What do you think? Could it be possible to invent a self-explaining Game of Life in that sense? Evgenii P.S. Carroll's