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[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Telmo Menezes
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On Mon, Mar 23
gt;>>> I am saying that I don't know if uranium fission can be made safer, and
>>>> cheaper. I also think that part of the cost is waste management. I think
>>>> that natural gas, solar and wind (with Storage) may now be the past of
>>>> least resist
ssues are and what the
> potential risks are?
>
Fair enough.
One can dream about a Star Trek world where these decisions are driven by
honest science.
Telmo.
>
>
>
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On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List <
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> I am not optimistic on all this, because of costs to develop, development
> time, lead time, politics, and so forth.
I'm pretty optimistic about Thorium reactors but the energy revolution
won't come
so forth. As of now its all gas
turbines till we get a cheap way of storing abundant solar. Maybe.
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We seem to have a competition to see who can best stereotype the other's
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>>> least resistance.
>>
>>
>> Fair enough. I don't know either, I just have the impression that a lot
>> of people who protest nuclear power (and influence political decisions)
>> also don't know.
>>
>> Telmo.
>>
>>
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From: Telmo Menezes
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On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:08 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/21/2015 9:05 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
We
t the potential risks are?
Chris
Telmo.
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From: Telmo Menezes
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On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:08 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List <
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> People are rightly fearful of radiation exposure.
Obviously everybody should be careful around radiation, but the trouble is
that at the mere mention of the word most people's logic circuits shut do
impression that a lot of
> people who protest nuclear power (and influence political decisions) also
> don't know.
>
> Telmo.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: Telmo Menezes
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>> Sent: Sat, Mar
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> From: Telmo Menezes
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> Subject: Re: TEPCO admits Fukushima Daiichi Unit 1 core completely melted
> down
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> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:08 PM, meekerdb wrote:
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>> On 3/21/2015 9:05 AM, spudboy
revent use.
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I've been given the impression that nuclear waste can be reprocessed in thorium
reactors, which I assume include
ith Storage) may now be the past of
> least resistance.
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Re: TEPCO admits Fukushima Daiichi Unit 1 core completely melted
> down
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>
>
> On S
s not electrically
powered to about 25-30% solar today.
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On 3/21/2015 9:05 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
W
On 3/21/2015 12:04 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Its all driven by cash as we all agree. The competition between the oil and nat gas
producers has driven prices way down. I am guessing this is a temporary thing. Perhaps
if the Gulf of Hormuz closes, prices will climb horribly, (for u
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:08 PM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 3/21/2015 9:05 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
>
> We can yap about technology but it's all out of our hands. Nuclear fission
> has taken permanent hit because of its cost$. It's not safety that halted
> uranium, but money. In a da
On 3/21/2015 9:05 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
We can yap about technology but it's all out of our hands. Nuclear fission has taken
permanent hit because of its cost$. It's not safety that halted uranium, but money. In a
darwinian fashion, natural gas has superseded uranium, from a
ons of cash has tons of clout.
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We can yap about technology but it's all o
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On Fri, Mar 20, 2015
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
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> >> I disagree. Assuming the above is true, and it probably is, that would
>> be WONDERFUL news. In a water cooled reactor, the sort that is used
>> everywhere ( except for Chernobyl and oth
e the hill top any time soon?
Will fusion ever be there? Don't know, and since I have no power to influence,
don't care.
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On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:55 PM, meekerdb wrote:
> Reactors are either water cooled or air cooled. Graphite is used as a
> moderator to slow the neutrons and increase fission
>
I know that.
> not as a coolant.
Slowing the neutrons is also called cooling them.
> > Heavy water is used as
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> Just in case anybody wanted to pretend that the Fukushima disaster is
behind us;
here is this piece of bad news, based on recent telemetry using muon
de
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On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:20 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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http://www.beyondnuclear.org/japan/2015/3/19/tepco-admits-fukushima-daiichi-unit-1-core-completely
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In Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
> Just in case anybody wanted to pretend that the Fukushima disaster is
behind us;
here is this piece of bad news, based on recent telemetry using muon
detectors for
imaging the
On 21 March 2015 at 09:22, John Clark wrote:
> In Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
>
> > Just in case anybody wanted to pretend that the Fukushima disaster is
>> behind us; here is this piece of bad news, based on recent telemetry using
>> muon detectors for imaging t
In Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
> Just in case anybody wanted to pretend that the Fukushima disaster is
> behind us; here is this piece of bad news, based on recent telemetry using
> muon detectors for imaging the reactor vessels. The core of reactor units 1
> appe
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[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Telmo Menezes
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Subject: Re: TEPCO admits Fukushima Daiichi Unit 1 core completely melted down
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On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:20 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.beyondnuclear.org/japan/2015/3/19/tepco-admits-fukushima-daiichi-unit-1-core-completely-melted.html
>
>
>
> Just in case anybody wanted to pretend that the Fukushima d
http://www.beyondnuclear.org/japan/2015/3/19/tepco-admits-fukushima-daiichi-unit-1-core-completely-melted.html
Just in case anybody wanted to pretend that the Fukushima disaster is behind
us; here is this piece of bad news, based on recent telemetry using muon
detectors for imaging the reacto
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