John,
Let me try again, with a slightly different thought experiment.
In this case I invite Arthur to make some experience. I think it is
indifferent if Arthur knows or not the protocol (except that it would
violate the comp ethics to not tell him the protocol, gievn that he
will be, as
On 16 March 2012 21:04, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote:
Would it be not wrong to think of ordinary motion of an object through
space as a form of repetitive cut and paste operation?
You mean on the basis of the same assumptions as the UDA, I assume?
Well, insofar as movement
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:20 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
There are many possible enormous changes that could happen without you
being aware of them.
Show me. Show me a example of a change being made between 2 conscious
beings that resulted in a enormous difference between them,
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
so according to you, we should throw pronouns in the toilet
Most of the time pronouns work just fine, but if you're discussing personal
identity and duplication chambers you've got to be very stingy with their
use,
2012/3/17 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
so according to you, we should throw pronouns in the toilet
Most of the time pronouns work just fine
No they are fine or not... If MWI is true What will *I* do in one
2012/3/17 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
so according to you, we should throw pronouns in the toilet
Most of the time pronouns work just fine, but if you're discussing
personal identity and duplication chambers
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 3:53 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
The experience consists in being duplicated each day, for ten days in a
row.
Oh dear, Is this really necessary?
He is duplicated in two similar rooms, except for a big 1 painted in
the wall of one of these rooms, and a
On 3/17/2012 8:18 AM, David Nyman wrote:
On 16 March 2012 21:04, Stephen P. Kingstephe...@charter.net wrote:
Would it be not wrong to think of ordinary motion of an object through
space as a form of repetitive cut and paste operation?
You mean on the basis of the same assumptions as the
2012/3/17 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 3:53 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
The experience consists in being duplicated each day, for ten days in a
row.
Oh dear, Is this really necessary?
He is duplicated in two similar rooms, except for a big 1
On 17 March 2012 17:48, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote:
But why make copies of some original object when the program can just
generate many by paralleling running one subroutine or simultaneously
running multiple programs ala UD?
But surely (still arguing from comp
On 17 Mar 2012, at 05:05, John Clark wrote:
Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
If he knew he was duplicated both would mention it, if he didn't
neither would.
The point is that he cannot perceive it. he can not known it by any
personal observation,
So you're saying that neither
On 3/17/2012 8:01 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:20 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
There are many possible enormous changes that could happen without you
being aware
of them.
Show me.
You are placed in a closed room and
Oh my god, I'm going to scream. Do you think it's possible John and
Craig are actually *one and the same person*, some kind of evil
mastermind über-troll intent on driving us all over the brink of
sanity? What's clear now is that John has painted himself into a
corner from which he can never
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 5:40 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
You are placed in a closed room and anesthesized. While you are
unconscious you are moved to an identical room in Moscow. You wake up.
There has been an enormous change in your position but you are not aware of
it.
On 3/17/2012 9:45 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 5:40 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
You are placed in a closed room and anesthesized. While you are
unconscious you
are moved to an identical room in Moscow. You wake up. There
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