On Tuesday, May 19, 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 16 May 2015, at 07:10, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 13 May 2015, at 11:59 am, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jasonre...@gmail.com'); wrote:
Chalmer's fading quailia argument
On 16 May 2015, at 07:10, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 13 May 2015, at 11:59 am, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Chalmer's fading quailia argument shows that if replacing a
biological neuron with a functionally equivalent silicon neuron
changed conscious perception, then it
On 17 May 2015, at 18:34, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 16 May 2015, at 15:47, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au
wrote:
Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sat, May
On 17 May 2015, at 20:24, meekerdb wrote:
On 5/17/2015 1:44 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Roughly speaking, consciousness originates from the fact that p -
[]p (the sigma_1 truth get represented in the body/brain of the
machine), and the fact that []p - p is true, but non justifiable
by the
Exatly. The title say all: Theories that explain everything, explain
nothing and this is so obvious that all the rest is redundant.
2015-05-14 1:15 GMT+02:00 Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au:
As an aside to recent discussions, it is interesting to point out that
physics has some of the
On 18 May 2015, at 09:54, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Exatly. The title say all: Theories that explain everything, explain
nothing and this is so obvious that all the rest is redundant.
Explain is too much fuzzy.
In physics people would be happy to unify the quantum and relativity,
by a
On 18 May 2015, at 17:05, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Tuesday, May 19, 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 16 May 2015, at 07:10, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 13 May 2015, at 11:59 am, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
wrote:
Chalmer's fading quailia argument shows
On 18-May-2015, at 7:24 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 13 May 2015, at 08:23, Samiya Illias wrote:
On 12-May-2015, at 9:39 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13 May 2015 at 14:29, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
1) The Quran reminds us that humans
On Mon, May 18, 2015 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Well then let's make this simple, just use your patented way to make
calculations without using matter or energy or any of the laws of physics
and tell me what the factors of 3*2^916773 +1 and 19249 × 2^13018586 + 1
are.
On 5/18/2015 10:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
What about Mister D. During his conference his brain completely melted down,
disappeared, say, in this thought experience, but a lucky cosmic ray, by pure chance,
will activate the exact motor's neurons, so that he will pursue his conference like if
On Tuesday, May 19, 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 18 May 2015, at 17:05, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Tuesday, May 19, 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','marc...@ulb.ac.be'); wrote:
On 16 May 2015, at 07:10, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Tuesday, May 19, 2015, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 5/18/2015 10:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
What about Mister D. During his conference his brain completely melted
down, disappeared, say, in this thought experience, but a lucky cosmic ray,
by pure chance, will activate the
On 5/18/2015 1:50 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Tuesday, May 19, 2015, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 5/18/2015 10:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
What about Mister D. During his conference his brain completely melted down,
disappeared,
I feel a strange desire to quote Roger Waters.
What God wants God gets God help us all
What God wants God gets (repeated)
The kid in the corner looked at the priest
And fingered his pale blue Japanese guitar
The priest said:
God wants goodness
God wants light
God wants mayhem
God wants a
On 5/18/2015 9:45 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Not necessarily, just as an actor may not be conscious in the same way
as me. But I suspect the Blockhead would be conscious; the intuition
that a lookup table can't be conscious is like the intuition that an
electric circuit can't be
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On 19 May 2015
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 19 May 2015 at 11:02, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
I think you're not taking into account the level of the functional
substitution. Of course functionally equivalent silicon and functionally
On 19 May 2015 at 14:45, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 19 May 2015 at 11:02, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
I think you're not taking into account the level of the functional
On 19 May 2015 at 11:05, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tuesday, May 19, 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 16 May 2015, at 07:10, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 13 May 2015, at
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 05:27:50PM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
On 5/18/2015 5:20 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 19 May 2015 at 07:49, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
There is a difference in kind, not degree, between the impossible and the
highly improbable.
I disagree. That's a
On 19 May 2015 at 07:49, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
There is a difference in kind, not degree, between the impossible and the
highly improbable.
I disagree. That's a platonic attitude that we can discriminate between
impossible and highly improbable. It comes from a reliance on
On 5/18/2015 5:20 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 19 May 2015 at 07:49, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
There is a difference in kind, not degree, between the impossible and the
highly improbable.
I disagree. That's a platonic attitude that we can discriminate between
impossible and
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:58 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com
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On 18 May 2015 at 16:04, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Stathis Papaioannou
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On 13 May 2015, at 11:59 am, Jason Resch
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On 19 May 2015 at 11:02, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
I think you're not taking into account the level of the functional
substitution. Of course functionally equivalent silicon and functionally
equivalent neurons can (under functionalism) both instantiate the same
consciousness.
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tuesday, May 19, 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 16 May 2015, at 07:10, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 13 May 2015, at 11:59 am, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Chalmer's fading
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 8:48 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16 May 2015 at 06:11, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 15 May 2015, at 01:48, Jason Resch wrote:
Are there those rare creatures somewhere in Platonia that see while
feeling as though they're blind?
No. At the level
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 13 May 2015, at 11:59 am, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Chalmer's fading quailia argument http://consc.net/papers/qualia.html
shows that if replacing a biological neuron with a functionally
On 18 May 2015 at 16:04, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 13 May 2015, at 11:59 am, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Chalmer's fading quailia argument shows that if replacing a biological
I will eventually buy the book and let ya know.
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On 17 May 2015 at
On 17 May 2015, at 22:26, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
So what? A injection is a function and a function is a machine
that MOVES from one element in a set to another and ASSOCIATES it
with elements of another set. All these things
On 13 May 2015, at 08:23, Samiya Illias wrote:
On 12-May-2015, at 9:39 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13 May 2015 at 14:29, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com
wrote:
1) The Quran reminds us that humans have been made Incharge of
Earth and hence are responsible for the welfare of
On 18 May 2015, at 03:48, LizR wrote:
On 16 May 2015 at 06:11, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 15 May 2015, at 01:48, Jason Resch wrote:
Are there those rare creatures somewhere in Platonia that see while
feeling as though they're blind?
No. At the level I think you are, that would
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