'Mind Space' metaphor - relation between Symbolic, Bayesian and Analogical inference

2009-12-30 Thread marc.geddes
I came up with this metaphor which hopefully indicates the relationship between the three main types of inference (Symbolic, Bayesian and Analogical). --- Picture a mind as a space, and 'the laws of mind' are analogous to the principles of cognitive science. Now in this 'mind space' picture

Re: New Paper by Thomas Hertog and Stephen Hawking

2009-12-30 Thread John Mikes
Happy NewYear, Colin, you just came up shy from the notion that all this is a part of the anthropocentric maze. Physicists' hegemnony over (scientific?) thinking is embedded into the math-maze of numbers and this, too, may be a human invention (according to D. Bohm). So all the 'stories' and

Re: UDA query

2009-12-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 Dec 2009, at 03:29, ronaldheld wrote: Bruno: Is there a UD that is implemented in Fortran? I don't know. If you know Fortran, it should be a relatively easy task to implement one. Note that you have still the choice between a fortran program dovetailing on all computations by

Re: New Paper by Thomas Hertog and Stephen Hawking

2009-12-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 Dec 2009, at 05:59, Colin Hales wrote: Jason Resch wrote: Described in this article: http://www.bioedonline.org/news/news.cfm?art=2617 This summation of all paths, proposed in the 1960s by physicist Richard Feynman and others, is the only way to explain some of the bizarre

Re: Definition of universe

2009-12-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Mindey, On 29 Dec 2009, at 15:07, Mindey wrote: I was just wondering, we are talking so much about universes, but how do we define universe? Sorry if that question was answered somewhere, but after a quick search I didn't find it. What do you mean by universe? Do you mean, like many, the

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-30 Thread benjayk
Bruno Marchal wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: The theory explains what exists, and how the rest emerges from it. But then doesn't the rest exist, too? I just see a problem with claiming to explain what exists, when it is really not clear what existance could

Re: 'Mind Space' metaphor - relation between Symbolic, Bayesian and Analogical inference

2009-12-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
You may be right. But it is still an open problem to just define probability (except the probability one) in the mechanist settting. Rich metaphor, but a promise for a lot of work, to make this precise enough in the mechanist frame. It would mean that not only we have a measure (and a linear

Re: Definition of universe

2009-12-30 Thread John Mikes
Bruno,* * I still wait for the reasoning of the 'primitive' in your: *...if this physical universe can be captured by a program (a number) or even by a mathematical structure. It is not a primitive structure. It has a reason linked to a statistics on computations.-...* What primitive(?)

Re: 'Mind Space' metaphor - relation between Symbolic, Bayesian and Analogical inference

2009-12-30 Thread John Mikes
Dear Marc, you emerged from the conventional figment of a 'physical world' view and elevated into the concept of mind (what I don't know where, what and how to define...) - anyway, to think in mental terms instead of the conventional physical figments. Then you use the complacent terms of the

Re: Robotic Scientist

2009-12-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
John, On 29 Dec 2009, at 20:57, John Mikes wrote: excuse me if I suggest some circularity in you reply. You are welcome. A learning machine is by def. learning SOMETHING Yes. Usually a total computable function, or a mechanically generable set, or things represented by those things.