Re: deism and Newton

2012-04-08 Thread meekerdb
On 4/7/2012 10:36 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 07.04.2012 22:16 meekerdb said the following: On 4/7/2012 5:11 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 06.04.2012 19:22 meekerdb said the following: On 4/6/2012 9:26 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: ... “The very possibility of applied mathematics is an

Re: deism and Newton

2012-04-08 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 08.04.2012 09:04 meekerdb said the following: On 4/7/2012 10:36 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 07.04.2012 22:16 meekerdb said the following: On 4/7/2012 5:11 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: ... More to this story http://blog.rudnyi.ru/2012/04/god-as-a-cosmic-operator.html where there are

Re: Primitive Awareness and Symmetry

2012-04-08 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 6:30 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: But is it an empirical question?  What would it mean for neuroscience to find zombies?  We have some idea what it would mean to find a soul: some seemingly purposeful sequence of brain processes begin without any physical

Re: Two Studies. Visual Cortex does not see. Consciousness is not thought.

2012-04-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 Apr 2012, at 21:54, meekerdb wrote: On 4/7/2012 1:32 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The fake political use of religion, which lasts since a long time in occident, can only be promoted by the rejection of free-will and conscience. I agree with most of what you write about free-will, but

Re: deism and Newton

2012-04-08 Thread meekerdb
On 4/8/2012 5:20 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 08.04.2012 09:04 meekerdb said the following: On 4/7/2012 10:36 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 07.04.2012 22:16 meekerdb said the following: On 4/7/2012 5:11 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: ... More to this story

Re: Primitive Awareness and Symmetry

2012-04-08 Thread meekerdb
On 4/8/2012 6:04 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 6:30 AM, meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.net wrote: But is it an empirical question? What would it mean for neuroscience to find zombies? We have some idea what it would mean to find a soul: some seemingly purposeful sequence

Re: Two Studies. Visual Cortex does not see. Consciousness is not thought.

2012-04-08 Thread meekerdb
On 4/8/2012 6:48 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I also think you're wrong to single out the Occident. The Orient has effectively combined religion and politics too. I agree. I was just citing Occident, because I know it better, and the political use has been quite effective and general. I am not

Re: Two Studies. Visual Cortex does not see. Consciousness is not thought.

2012-04-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Apr 2012, at 20:31, meekerdb wrote: On 4/8/2012 6:48 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I also think you're wrong to single out the Occident. The Orient has effectively combined religion and politics too. I agree. I was just citing Occident, because I know it better, and the political

Re: deism and Newton

2012-04-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Apr 2012, at 19:55, meekerdb wrote: On 4/8/2012 5:20 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 08.04.2012 09:04 meekerdb said the following: On 4/7/2012 10:36 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 07.04.2012 22:16 meekerdb said the following: On 4/7/2012 5:11 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: ... More to this

Re: Primitive Awareness and Symmetry

2012-04-08 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2012/4/8 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net On 4/8/2012 6:04 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 6:30 AM, meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.net wrote: But is it an empirical question? What would it mean for neuroscience to find zombies? We have some idea what it would mean to find a

Re: Primitive Awareness and Symmetry

2012-04-08 Thread meekerdb
On 4/8/2012 5:52 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2012/4/8 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net On 4/8/2012 6:04 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 6:30 AM, meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: But