Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On 2/28/2013 5:30 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:01:48 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 2/28/2013 4:11 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:37:50 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 2/28/2013 1:50 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: You have n

Re: Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

Suddenly, everybody was astonished to realise that this has already happened. The Engineers expressly designed the human neocortex so we could get this far and this far only. As Kurzweil says - we only need a brain smart enough to get us to the point where we can design a better brain. We are no

Re: Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > True, but we already know that nerves can be stimulated with electrodes. Yes, and it shows that there is nothing special about biology. It's just a technical problem to find non-biological components that will work as well as the biological

Re: Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

True, but we already know that nerves can be stimulated with electrodes. On Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:56:37 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Craig Weinberg > > > wrote: > > Cool, although brain conjoined twins already do this. > > But this is with electrodes.

Re: Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > Cool, although brain conjoined twins already do this. But this is with electrodes. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this gr

Re: Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

Cool, although brain conjoined twins already do this. On Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:59:14 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > > Apparently so... > > > http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23221-first-mindreading-implant-gives-rats-telepathic-power.htm

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:01:48 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > On 2/28/2013 4:11 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:37:50 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> On 2/28/2013 1:50 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> You have no way of knowing what I can't know about you

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On 2/28/2013 4:48 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 2/28/2013 2:29 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 2/28/2013 10:59 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 2/28/2013 10:33 AM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Craig Weinberg > wrote: >> It is a basic law of logi

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On 2/28/2013 4:11 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:37:50 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 2/28/2013 1:50 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: You have no way of knowing what I can't know about you either. You have no way of knowing what ways I have of knowing what you kn

Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

-- Forwarded message -- Apparently so... http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23221-first-mindreading-implant-gives-rats-telepathic-power.html The world's first brain-to-brain connection has given rats the power to communicate by thought alone. "Many people thoug

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On 2/28/2013 2:29 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 2/28/2013 10:59 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 2/28/2013 10:33 AM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Craig Weinberg mailto:whatsons...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> It is a basic law of logic that if X is not Y and X is not not

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:37:50 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > On 2/28/2013 1:50 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > You have no way of knowing what I can't know about you either. > > > You have no way of knowing what ways I have of knowing what you know about > what ways John knows of having w

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On 2/28/2013 1:50 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: You have no way of knowing what I can't know about you either. You have no way of knowing what ways I have of knowing what you know about what ways John knows of having ways of knowing about what you can know...either. :-) Brent blather, n. strings

Re: A Diagram of Free Will

On Thursday, February 28, 2013 4:29:13 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: > > Hi Craig, what's your point with this diagram? That free will lies on > a continuum of random processes, perhaps? > Just the opposite. All processes begin intentionally, but end up appearing more unintentional the fu

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:52:59 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Craig Weinberg > > > wrote > > >>> Even if it could [ tell the difference between a audio and a video file] that would only represent a more advanced file analysis function, not

Re: A Diagram of Free Will

Hi Craig, what's your point with this diagram? That free will lies on a continuum of random processes, perhaps? Cheers On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:25:29PM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > http:

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote >>> Even if it could [ tell the difference between a audio and a video >>> file] that would only represent a more advanced file analysis function, not >>> any kind of audio or video sensitivity. >>> >> >> >> Please explain the difference betwe

A Diagram of Free Will

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Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On 2/28/2013 10:59 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 2/28/2013 10:33 AM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Craig Weinberg > wrote: >> It is a basic law of logic that if X is not Y and X is not not Y then X is gibberish, > X = alc

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

Thanks. I think you pretty much covered it :) On Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:59:55 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: > > On 2/28/2013 10:33 AM, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Craig Weinberg > > > wrote: > >> >> >> It is a basic law of logic that if X is not Y a

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On 2/28/2013 10:33 AM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Craig Weinberg > wrote: >> It is a basic law of logic that if X is not Y and X is not not Y then X is gibberish, > X = alcohol Y = poison. becomes "alcohol is not p

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:03:40 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > On 2/28/2013 4:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 28 Feb 2013, at 05:04, meekerdb wrote: > > On 2/27/2013 7:17 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 27 Feb 2013, at 20:40, meekerdb wrote: > > On 2/27/2013 2:59 AM, Bruno Marc

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On 2/28/2013 4:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 28 Feb 2013, at 05:04, meekerdb wrote: On 2/27/2013 7:17 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 27 Feb 2013, at 20:40, meekerdb wrote: On 2/27/2013 2:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Feb 2013, at 21:40, meekerdb wrote: On 2/26/2013 1:24 AM, Bruno Mar

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:08:07 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Craig Weinberg > > > wrote: > > > Even if it could [ tell the difference between a audio and a video file] >> that would only represent a more advanced file analysis function, not any >> k

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > >> It is a basic law of logic that if X is not Y and X is not not Y then X >> is gibberish, >> > > > X = alcohol Y = poison. > becomes "alcohol is not poison and alcohol isn't not poison" > Exactly, and 2 negatives, like "isn't not" can

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > Even if it could [ tell the difference between a audio and a video file] > that would only represent a more advanced file analysis function, not any > kind of audio or video sensitivity. > Please explain the difference between the two. >>

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On 2/28/2013 7:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 28 Feb 2013, at 05:04, meekerdb wrote: You are assuming that justification comes from logic; and indeed it is too much to expect from such a weak source. I look for such "justification" as can be found from experience, which you demoted to mere "

Re: Comp: Geometry Is A Zombie

On 28 Feb 2013, at 05:04, meekerdb wrote: On 2/27/2013 7:17 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 27 Feb 2013, at 20:40, meekerdb wrote: On 2/27/2013 2:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Feb 2013, at 21:40, meekerdb wrote: On 2/26/2013 1:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: How did number arise? We don't