Re: Unexpected Hanging

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:31:28 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: > > On 9/17/2013 10:46 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > Alright. Personal or 1p experiences are probably outside the realm of >> phenomena that can be investigated under Popperian science. I think >> this is something that many of us

Re: Unexpected Hanging

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Sunday, September 15, 2013 3:54:24 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 14 Sep 2013, at 04:25, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 13, 2013 9:42:54 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 12 Sep 2013, at 18:22, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, September 12, 2

RE: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-17 Thread chris peck
Hi John >> Exactly, Newton and Darwin and Einstein didn't need Popper to tell them how >> to get knowledge out of nature, and absolutely no change in how science was >> done happened in 1934, the year Popper's book was published. None >> whatsoever. Newton and Darwin would have had problems

Re: Craig's Maths

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
I'm happy to translate. There doesn't seem to be any real interest in understanding though. On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:01:11 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: > > On 9/17/2013 6:50 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 04:48:12AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > On Monday, Sept

Re: Craig's Maths

2013-09-17 Thread meekerdb
On 9/17/2013 6:50 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 04:48:12AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Monday, September 16, 2013 9:22:36 PM UTC-4, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:34:42AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: < http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.co

Re: Craig's Maths

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:50:02 PM UTC-4, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 04:48:12AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, September 16, 2013 9:22:36 PM UTC-4, Russell Standish wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:34:42AM -0700, Craig Weinber

Re: Craig's Maths

2013-09-17 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 04:48:12AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Monday, September 16, 2013 9:22:36 PM UTC-4, Russell Standish wrote: > > > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:34:42AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > > > > > > < > > http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/ide

Re: Unexpected Hanging

2013-09-17 Thread meekerdb
On 9/17/2013 10:46 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: Alright. Personal or 1p experiences are probably outside the realm of phenomena that can be investigated under Popperian science. I think this is something that many of us can agree with, independently of accepting/rejecting comp, for

Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-17 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 Bruno Marchal wrote: >> So you are suggesting that a thing like broken glass is made of numbers >> > > > I was just saying that things are not made up of things. A broken > glass is NOT made of number. That has no meaning at all. What happens is > that addition and mul

Re: Unexpected Hanging

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:07:23 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Craig Weinberg > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Saturday, September 14, 2013 5:53:01 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Craig Weinberg > >> wrote:

Re: How PIP solves the hard problem of consciousness

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:40:27 PM UTC-4, freqflyer07281972 wrote: > > Thanks Craig, you've articulated quite well a number of difficulties in > approaching the hard problem, IMHO. I was reading this article in the SEP > and thought of your approach: > http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/

Re: How PIP solves the hard problem of consciousness

2013-09-17 Thread freqflyer07281972
Thanks Craig, you've articulated quite well a number of difficulties in approaching the hard problem, IMHO. I was reading this article in the SEP and thought of your approach: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nishida-kitaro/ Look especially under his glossing of the idea of 'pure experience.' I

Re: Unexpected Hanging

2013-09-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Sep 2013, at 11:49, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 15 Sep 2013, at 10:37, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Sep 2013, at 04:25, Craig Weinberg wrote: With computationalism, it is

Re: Unexpected Hanging

2013-09-17 Thread meekerdb
On 9/17/2013 1:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Sep 2013, at 19:54, meekerdb wrote: On 9/16/2013 5:35 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: With computationalism, it is more easy and clear. What exists, at the ontological level, is what make true a sentence like "ExP(x)". So number exists, once we assume

Re: How PIP solves the hard problem of consciousness

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, September 16, 2013 5:20:22 PM UTC-4, JohnM wrote: > > Dear Craig: a beautifully crafted post. > Thanks John! > > In my opinion the 'gap' is between what we (think we) know and what we > don't (even think we know). > Yes, I agree. I'm glad that you use the (think) disclaimer on

Re: Craig's Maths

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, September 16, 2013 9:22:36 PM UTC-4, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:34:42AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > > > < > http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/identity3.jpg?w=595> > > > > > > < > http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.com/

Re: Unexpected Hanging

2013-09-17 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Saturday, September 14, 2013 5:53:01 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Craig Weinberg >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Friday, September 13, 2013 5:31:40 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: >> >> >> >> On T

Re: Unexpected Hanging

2013-09-17 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 15 Sep 2013, at 10:37, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 14 Sep 2013, at 04:25, Craig Weinberg wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, September 13, 2013 9:42:54 AM UTC-4, Bruno Mar

Re: Craig's Maths

2013-09-17 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:34:42AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > > > > > Here’s a crazy little number that I like to call the Non-Well-Fo

Re: Unexpected Hanging

2013-09-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Sep 2013, at 19:54, meekerdb wrote: On 9/16/2013 5:35 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: With computationalism, it is more easy and clear. What exists, at the ontological level, is what make true a sentence like "ExP(x)". So number exists, once we assume arithmetic or combinators ..., because