Re: Observation versus assumption

> > On 6/26/2019 7:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > The scientist is the guy able to doubt, to say “I don’t know” or “I am > nots sure”. > > One only needs to be an *ironist*. Many scientists today (ones who write for the public, and and are widely quoted) are not. > .. > > Then with

Re: Observation versus assumption

On 6/26/2019 7:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Jun 2019, at 09:27, Philip Thrift > wrote: Can you tell a progressive Christian (who may be religious in the sense that they have a belief in God) and is also a progressive Democrat and a member of ISIS (who

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

On 6/26/2019 7:18 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, at 00:38, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 6:24 AM Quentin Anciaux > wrote: Le lun. 24 juin 2019 à 22:00, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List

Re: Observation versus assumption

> On 25 Jun 2019, at 12:27, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, at 08:30, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: >> So Feyerabend can't tell ISIS from NASA or the National Academy of Science >> from the Papacy. > > My mother is fairly religious. She goes to church every Sunday

Re: Observation versus assumption (was: anecdote of Moon landing)

> On 26 Jun 2019, at 14:37, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 3:31 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: >> >>> No problem with “reasonable”. My point is that mechanism, nor my >> >>> consciousness in two seconds, or the consciousness of another people, is >> >>>

Re: Observation versus assumption

> On 25 Jun 2019, at 09:27, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > Can you tell a progressive Christian (who may be religious in the sense that > they have a belief in God) and is also a progressive Democrat and a member of > ISIS (who is also religious in the sense that they have a belief in God). Do

Re: determinism and randomness in QM

On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 8:45:42 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 26 Jun 2019, at 11:30, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 3:55:26 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 25 Jun 2019, at 20:17, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, June 25,

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, at 00:38, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 6:24 AM Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> Le lun. 24 juin 2019 à 22:00, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >> a écrit : >>> On 6/24/2019 12:56 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: Le lun. 24 juin 2019 à 20:52, 'Brent

Re: Eternal return

> On 26 Jun 2019, at 14:22, smitra wrote: > > Entropy, (ir)reversibility etc. are concepts that only appear in an effective > description where you have integrated out the microscopic dynamics of the > system to obtain effective laws of physics in terms of only macroscopic > quantities. In

Re: determinism and randomness in QM

> On 26 Jun 2019, at 11:30, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 3:55:26 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 25 Jun 2019, at 20:17, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, June 25, 2019 at 10:44:18 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> The universal

Re: Observation versus assumption (was: anecdote of Moon landing)

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 3:31 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > *>>> No problem with “reasonable”. My point is that mechanism, nor my >>> consciousness in two seconds, or the consciousness of another people, is >>> not something provable,* >> >> >> True but irrelevant if you're trying to decide what to

Re: Eternal return

Entropy, (ir)reversibility etc. are concepts that only appear in an effective description where you have integrated out the microscopic dynamics of the system to obtain effective laws of physics in terms of only macroscopic quantities. In addition to the macroscopic quantities a few

Re: determinism and randomness in QM

On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 3:55:26 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 25 Jun 2019, at 20:17, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 25, 2019 at 10:44:18 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> The universal machine provides an account of its >>

Re: determinism and randomness in QM

> On 25 Jun 2019, at 21:14, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 6/25/2019 9:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 24 Jun 2019, at 19:26, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/24/2019 2:13 AM,

Re: determinism and randomness in QM

> On 25 Jun 2019, at 20:17, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 25, 2019 at 10:44:18 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > The universal machine provides an account of its > body/code/theory/finite-things/number (the []p of G1 and Z1, according to > some nuances, as well as G1* and