Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

2013-12-22 Thread Stephen Paul King
Dear Edger, Where does the fire come from that animates the logic? On Friday, December 20, 2013 6:52:54 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: All, The fundamental nature of reality is examined in detail in my recent book on Reality available on Amazon under my name. Marchal is on the right

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

2013-12-22 Thread spudboy100
this abacus dwells? Thanks, Mitch -Original Message- From: Stephen Paul King stephe...@charter.net To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:36 pm Subject: Re: Bruno's mathematical reality Dear Edger, Where does the fire come from that animates

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

2013-12-22 Thread Stephen Paul King
@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:36 pm Subject: Re: Bruno's mathematical reality Dear Edger, Where does the fire come from that animates the logic? On Friday, December 20, 2013 6:52:54 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: All, The fundamental nature of reality is examined in detail in my

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

2013-12-22 Thread meekerdb
On 12/22/2013 5:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 22 Dec 2013, at 01:00, Edgar Owen wrote: Hi John, First thanks for the complement on my post! To address your points. Of course we do have some knowledge of reality. We have to have to be able to function within it which we most certainly do

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

2013-12-21 Thread John Mikes
Dear Edgar Owen: thanks for a post with reason. I am sorry to be too old to read your (any?) book so I take it from your present communication. You wrote among others: *...Modern science has a major lacuna, the notion that all of reality is mathematical, that prevents science from grasping the

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

2013-12-21 Thread Brian Tenneson
I had a question about the quote below of Edgar's. In what sense of 'compute' do you believe that something computes reality? Also, I'm wondering if Laplace's demon is relevant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace%27s_demon According to the article, we have: In 2008, David

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

2013-12-21 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: All, The fundamental nature of reality is examined in detail in my recent book on Reality available on Amazon under my name. Cool, it sounds quite interesting. I've added it to my wish list. Marchal is on the right

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

2013-12-21 Thread LizR
I don't have time to read many books (although I managed to get almost half way through BOI). However, can you explain what you mean about the universe being based on something that is running ? That seems to rely on the prior existence of time, which is one of the things a TOE should probably be

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

2013-12-21 Thread meekerdb
On 12/20/2013 3:52 PM, Edgar Owen wrote: All, The fundamental nature of reality is examined in detail in my recent book on Reality available on Amazon under my name. Marchal is on the right track, but reality consists not just of numbers (math) but is a running logical structure analogous

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

2013-12-21 Thread Edgar Owen
Hi John, First thanks for the complement on my post! To address your points. Of course we do have some knowledge of reality. We have to have to be able to function within it which we most certainly do to varying degrees of competence. That is proof we do have sufficient knowledge of reality

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

2013-12-21 Thread Craig Weinberg
For me, the critical issue for accounting for everything under a single reality theory is what I call the Presentation Problem. In simple terms, there is no logical reason for the logical universe to produce shapes, colors, flavors, or feelings of any kind when we already know that information

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