Re: Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-23 Thread Roger Clough
the world of science Options Very nice explanation. Congratulation There is only one small problem: It is too complex. If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough / Albert Einstein. / ==. On Jan 22, 6:28 pm, Richa

Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-22 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
Sorry. I don't need 'the 26 dimensions' to explain 'a Block Metaverse Quantum Mind that possesses consciousness' For me ( as a peasant ) enough one dimension to give the scheme of the primary conditions of existence. .. Occam's Razor and the Scheme of Universe. ==. At first I take the simp

Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-22 Thread Richard Ruquist
What could be simpler than splitting the 26 dimensions into two groups that are both superstring theories. It certainly is less complicated than General Relativity On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: > Very nice explanation. > Congratulation > There is only one small

Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-22 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
Very nice explanation. Congratulation There is only one small problem: It is too complex. If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough / Albert Einstein. / ==. On Jan 22, 6:28 pm, Richard Ruquist wrote: > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11

Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-22 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:32 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: > > > According to Harold Morowitz a structure of single cell > has 10^12 bit of information > But cells are not in the one and same state, they are different > then another cell has another 10^12 bit of information . . . > ==. > Th

Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-22 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
According to Harold Morowitz a structure of single cell has 10^12 bit of information But cells are not in the one and same state, they are different then another cell has another 10^12 bit of information . . . ==. The estimate for human cells in the human body is about 10^14. The number of ce

Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 21 Jan 2013, at 18:17, John Mikes wrote: Many questionable statements along this long conversation. To your quote (life library?) - it is a figment of our conventional (bio?) sciences, as we build 'life' theories from atoms - em - energy - etc. I was alluding to molecular biology. I t

Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-21 Thread John Mikes
Many questionable statements along this long conversation. To your quote (life library?) - it is a figment of our conventional (bio?) sciences, as we build 'life' theories from atoms - em - energy - etc. * I don't know about "Turing" ccness, but in my terms ccness is the response to relations. (Wa

Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Jan 2013, at 18:17, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Question. What is DNA ? Life library. DNA consist on atoms and electromagnetic fields. In 1904 Lorentz proved: there isn’t em field without Electron It means the source of this em field must be an Electron Then we need to write : DNA

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2013-01-20 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
Question. What is DNA ? DNA consist on atoms and electromagnetic fields. In 1904 Lorentz proved: there isn’t em field without Electron It means the source of this em field must be an Electron Then we need to write : DNA is atoms, electron (s) and electromagnetic fields. The simplest particle -

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2013-01-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Jan 2013, at 09:32, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Does DNA have consciousness to create the double helix from zygote to child ? Probably not. But the complex DNA+cytoplasm might have some consciousness on vaster scale. very hard to decide this today. Then DNA +cytoplasm might have the

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2013-01-19 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
‘ The ancients knew something that we have forgotten.’ Plato said that : ‘Our ancestors were far greater than we are today. ...’ ' Our ancestors were nearer to the nature than we are' And Gerald Crabtree, a geneticist at Stanford university wrote on Tuesday 13 November 2012 : ‘Why it's unlikely

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2013-01-19 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
Does DNA know geometry ? Did DNA create child from zygote by the chance ? =. The infinite monkey theorem states that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare

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2013-01-18 Thread Richard Ruquist
Yes, the biological laws of nature are algorithms in computation space. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:25 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: > Did these 'algorithmically forms' by the chance created child from > zygote? > > = > > On Jan 18, 12:27 pm, Richard Ruquist wrote: >> DNA probably forms algor

Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-18 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
Did these 'algorithmically forms' by the chance created child from zygote? = On Jan 18, 12:27 pm, Richard Ruquist wrote: > DNA probably forms algorithmically > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:32 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net > > > > wrote: > > Does DNA have consciousness to create the double helix > > f

Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-18 Thread Richard Ruquist
DNA probably forms algorithmically On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:32 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: > Does DNA have consciousness to create the double helix > from zygote to child ? > > ==. > > On Jan 18, 1:25 am, Richard Ruquist wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:04 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net >> >>

Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-18 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
Does DNA have consciousness to create the double helix from zygote to child ? ==. On Jan 18, 1:25 am, Richard Ruquist wrote: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:04 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net > > > > > > wrote: > > Descartes :  “ I think, therefore I am “ > >  Zen / Tibetan Buddhist monks : "I think not,

Re: Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-17 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:04 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: > Descartes : “ I think, therefore I am “ > Zen / Tibetan Buddhist monks : "I think not, therefore I am" > Why they say: ' Mind for others , no mind for me' ? > > Are they fool men or maybe > they know that there are two methods of c

Idealism, theology, and the world of science Options

2013-01-17 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
Descartes : “ I think, therefore I am “ Zen / Tibetan Buddhist monks : "I think not, therefore I am" Why they say: ' Mind for others , no mind for me' ? Are they fool men or maybe they know that there are two methods of cognitions. ===.. Where does the information come from