Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-04 Thread Richard Ruquist
of quantum mind (whatever that is). > > etc. as I frequently but ineffectively try to correct. > > > > > - Receiving the following content - > From: Richard Ruquist > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2013-02-03, 09:37:42 > Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-04 Thread Roger Clough
ntent - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-02-03, 09:37:42 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe Dear Roger, Only 4d spacetime, matter and energy are physical. Everything else is non-physical and therefore part of the mind. This includes comp up

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
Straw dog there is no mention of a separation On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:37:42 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: >> >> Dear Roger, >> >> Only 4d spacetime, matter and energy are physical. Everything else is >> non-physical and therefore part o

Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-03 Thread Alberto G. Corona
orld of mind. > > > > - Receiving the following content - > *From:* Alberto G. Corona > *Receiver:* everything-list > *Time:* 2013-02-02, 14:14:51 > *Subject:* Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe > > In the world of the mind, that is, in what we call reality

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-03 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:37:42 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > Dear Roger, > > Only 4d spacetime, matter and energy are physical. Everything else is > non-physical and therefore part of the mind. This includes comp up > thru quantum mechanics. Only 4 dimensions for example of the 11d > univ

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
they are physical. So the block universe is a waste of time. > > > > - Receiving the following content - > From: Richard Ruquist > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2013-02-03, 07:19:51 > Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe > > Roger, > > I think the blo

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-03 Thread Roger Clough
-02-03, 07:19:51 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe Roger, I think the block universe (not quite accurate terminology) is actually the 4-dimensional quantum mind and in it is written all possible futures and pasts based on comp and quantum mechanics as well as info on what

Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
ng the following content - > From: Alberto G. Corona > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2013-02-02, 14:14:51 > Subject: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe > > In the world of the mind, that is, in what we call reality, it causes > everithing because causality is an

Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-03 Thread Roger Clough
ne it). 2013/2/2 Roger Clough Hi Alberto G. Corona Does your version of mind actually do anything ? - Receiving the following content - From: Alberto G. Corona Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-02-02, 04:43:54 Subject: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe I do think that a

Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-02 Thread Richard Ruquist
That everything possible may have mathematical existence is my fundamental hypothesis. How much of this everything that can possibly become physically existent depends on the definition of physical which in turn depends on theory. MWI theory predicts a near infinity of possibilities within a single

Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-02 Thread Alberto G. Corona
DonĀ“t limit yourself to the math of string theory . there may be argued that any mathematical figure exist, including the ones with no interesting structure or simetry of constants including ranndom structures, that is with a high kolmogorov complexity. That means that everithing may exist . Not b

Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-02 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > Hi > > > 2013/1/30 Richard Ruquist >> >> >> It is to me. I think it is very unlikely that the motions and >> evolutions of star and galaxies and in my model even universes could >> be strongly affected by biological consciousness >> > But

Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-02 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Hi Alberto G. Corona > > Does your version of mind actually do anything ? > > > - Receiving the following content - > *From:* Alberto G. Corona > *Receiver:* everything-list > *Time:* 2013-02-02, 04:43:54 > *Subject:* Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe > >

Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-02 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Alberto G. Corona Does your version of mind actually do anything ? - Receiving the following content - From: Alberto G. Corona Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-02-02, 04:43:54 Subject: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe I do think that a block universe can contain minds

Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-02 Thread Alberto G. Corona
I do think that a block universe can contain minds in a certain way. The objections against that are based in the absence of time, but space(3D geometry) and time can and should be a product of the machinery of the mind, in the kantian sense. But while in Kant things in themselves are unreachable,

Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-02-02 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Hi 2013/1/30 Richard Ruquist > > It is to me. I think it is very unlikely that the motions and > evolutions of star and galaxies and in my model even universes could > be strongly affected by biological consciousness > > But then, what is the anthropic principle about? > > > > -- > > Stathis P

Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-01-31 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno Marchal The block universe is the physical universe. So we are not part of it, for it does not allow subjectivity, which is nonphysical. Or mathematics or comp, which are also nonphysical. - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time

Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-01-30 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:13:19 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Craig Weinberg > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:03:04 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Craig Weinberg > >> wrote: > >> > > >>

Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-01-30 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Richard Ruquist Consciousness is not a force that might do things. It is what allows us to perceive and know things. - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-29, 20:39:40 Subject: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-01-30 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:03:04 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Craig Weinberg >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:39:40 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013

Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-01-30 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:03:04 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Craig Weinberg > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:39:40 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Stathis Papaioannou > > >> wrote: > >> > O

Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-01-29 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Stathis Papaioannou > wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: >>> A block universe does not allow for consciousness. >>> The fact the we all possess consciousness, so we think,

Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-01-29 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:39:40 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Stathis Papaioannou >> wrote: >> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Richard Ruquist >> > wrote: >> >> A block universe does not allow

Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-01-29 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:39:40 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Stathis Papaioannou > > > wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Richard Ruquist > > > > wrote: > >> A block universe does not allow for consciousness. > >> The fact the we all possess c

Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-01-29 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: >> A block universe does not allow for consciousness. >> The fact the we all possess consciousness, so we think, >> means that our universe is not completely blocked, >> although

Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-01-29 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: > A block universe does not allow for consciousness. > The fact the we all possess consciousness, so we think, > means that our universe is not completely blocked, > although the deviations from "block" may be minor > and inconsequential rega

Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

2013-01-29 Thread Richard Ruquist
A block universe does not allow for consciousness. The fact the we all possess consciousness, so we think, means that our universe is not completely blocked, although the deviations from "block" may be minor and inconsequential regarding the Omega Point. Richard. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:18 PM,