Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-17 Thread Roger Clough
...@verizon.net] 1/17/2013 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-17, 06:08:26 Subject: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory On 16 Jan

Re: Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-13, 09:48:20 Subject: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory On Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:56:25 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Richard

Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-17 Thread Roger Clough
as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory On 1/16/2013 11:34 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Leibniz's perception isn't really instantly and continuous, it's more like a slide show. Hi Roger, What determines the sequencing of the 'slides' and their rate of transition? -- Onward

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error,it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-17 Thread Roger Clough
, 10:59:12 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error,it should be TwoAspects Theory On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:31:51 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg 1) Good point. So far, there is only indirect evidence of gravity waves. http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=15438

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error,it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
:03 Subject: Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory On Monday, January 14, 2013 7:06:57 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg Why not ? There are gravitational waves. How do you know there are gravitational waves

Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-16 Thread Roger Clough
Subject: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory On 13 Jan 2013, at 20:05, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:57:48 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Jan 2013, at 13:01, Telmo Menezes wrote: Hi Roger, How can you have a wave without some

Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-16 Thread Roger Clough
:52 Subject: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory On 16 Jan 2013, at 13:24, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal The senses convert the phenomenol space-time world out there I don't grasp how something phenomenal can be out there. into nonphysical perceived

Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-16 Thread Roger Clough
-list Time: 2013-01-16, 11:23:57 Subject: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Jan 2013, at 18:11, Richard Ruquist wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Jan

Re: Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-15 Thread Roger Clough
the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-14, 11:51:03 Subject: Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory On Monday, January 14, 2013 7:06:57 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg Why

Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-14 Thread Roger Clough
- From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-13, 09:48:20 Subject: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory On Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:56:25 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Richard Ruquist EM waves are physical and exist in spacetime

Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-14 Thread Roger Clough
as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Thoughts travel instantly, but EM waves are physical (electrons) and so must travel at the speed of light Agreed Roger,But IMO em waves and quantum waves, like

Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-14 Thread Craig Weinberg
the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-13, 09:48:20 Subject: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory On Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:56:25 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Richard Ruquist EM waves

Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-13 Thread Roger Clough
as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory EM waves and fields clearly exist in spacetime. Yet I would classify them along with quantum waves as part of the quantum mind and nonphysical. The photon particle and quantum particles appear to bridge the gap between the physical and the mind

Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-13 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Thoughts travel instantly, but EM waves are physical (electrons) and so must travel at the speed of light Agreed Roger,But IMO em waves and quantum waves, like thoughts in the quantum mind, can collapse instantly to make

Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-13 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: Roger wrote: but EM waves are physical (electrons) However, EM waves collapse to photons, not electrons. And I would put EM waves on the mental side and photons on the physical side. But light seems to bridge the

Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

2013-01-13 Thread Craig Weinberg
: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory EM waves and fields clearly exist in spacetime. Yet I would classify them along with quantum waves as part of the quantum mind and nonphysical. The photon particle and quantum particles appear to bridge the gap between