Re: Rép : The Meaning of Life

2007-01-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Stathis, Here is the follow up of my comments on your post. It seems we completely agree. Sorry. Le 23-janv.-07, à 06:17, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : Simplistically, I conceive of computations as mysterious abstract objects, like all other mathematical objects. Physical computers

RE: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-01-25 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Johnathan Corgan writes: Stathis Papaioannou wrote: If some multiverse theory happens to be true then by your way of argument we should all be extremely anxious all the time, because every moment terrible things are definitely happening to some copy of us. For example, we

RE: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-01-25 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Jason Resch writes: Jason Resch writes: My appologies to those on this list, this is how I should have worded my conclusion: Positive spared lives = Take replication Neutral spared lives = Take coin flip Negative spared lives = Take coin flip [SP] This is an analysis from an

RE: Rép : The Meaning of Life

2007-01-25 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Brent Meeker writes: Bruno Marchal wrote: ... Now, when you run the UD, as far as you keep the discourse in the third person mode, everything remains enumerable, even in the limit. But from the first person point of view, a priori the uncountable stories, indeed generated by the UD,

RE: Rép : The Meaning of Life

2007-01-25 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Bruno marchal writes: Le 23-janv.-07, à 06:17, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : Simplistically, I conceive of computations as mysterious abstract objects, like all other mathematical objects. Physical computers are devices which reflect these mathematical objects in order to achieve

Re: Rép : The Meaning of Life

2007-01-25 Thread John Mikes
Bruno, as another chap with learned English in vertical stance I partially agree with your 'plural' as would all English mother-tongued people, but I also consider the gramatically probably inproper points of views, since WE allow different 'views' in our considerations. Stathis may choose his

Re: Rép : The Meaning of Life

2007-01-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 25-janv.-07, à 12:25, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : Bruno Marchal writes: Le 23-janv.-07, à 06:17, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : Searle is not a computationalist - does not believe in strong AI - but he does believe in weak AI. Penrose does not believe in weak AI either. Yes. In

Re: Rép : The Meaning of Life

2007-01-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 25-janv.-07, à 16:48, John Mikes a écrit : Bruno, as another chap with learned English in vertical stance I partially agree with your 'plural' as would all English mother-tongued people, but I also consider the gramatically probably inproper points of views, since WE allow different

Re: Rép : The Meaning of Life

2007-01-25 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Bruno Marchal writes: Le 23-janv.-07, à 06:17, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : Searle's theory is that consciousness is a result of actual brain activity, not Turing emulable. No... True: Searle's theory is that consciousness is a result of brain

Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-01-25 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Johnathan Corgan writes: Stathis Papaioannou wrote: If some multiverse theory happens to be true then by your way of argument we should all be extremely anxious all the time, because every moment terrible things are definitely happening to some copy of

RE: Rép : The Meaning of Life

2007-01-25 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Brent Meeker writes: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:52:01 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Rép : The Meaning of Life Stathis Papaioannou wrote:Bruno Marchal writes: Le 23-janv.-07, à 06:17, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : Searle's theory is