On 30 Jul 2011, at 04:35, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Jul 29, 3:51 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
That made it non Turing emulable. So you postulate the negation of
comp.
You could at least be agnostic.
By postulating non-comp you refer to something unfathomable as a
primitive
Chipping away at it.. more later.
On Jul 29, 3:51 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 28 Jul 2011, at 17:41, Craig Weinberg wrote:
A machine cannot have an experience, it is the
container, it is that which is experienced,
No. The machine itself is not experienced. The experience
On Jul 29, 3:51 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Diagonalization is a tool in theoretical computer science, to study
the structure of what is non computable, degrees of unsolvability,
etc. It comes from set theory, where Cantor used it to study the
degrees of infinities of
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
If you have 10,000 people all wear
different colored T-Shirts and stand in an arrangement to make an
image of Mickey Mouse as seen from the air - those people have not
taken on any qualities of any animated character
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm saying we can get a better symphony out of a philharmonic
orchestra than a thousand drummers. Drums make us feel one way, a
cello feels a different way. Can you play cello with a million tiny
drums?
The
On Jul 30, 1:08 am, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
It may or may not, but a system which could respond to questions in the same
way you do must understand how you think.
It's not responding to questions,
On Jul 30, 1:24 am, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
What if this group of biological neurons was involved in storing a memory of
one's grandmother, and therefore they only activate when the person is
thinking of her? Would that mean that this hybrid artificial/biological
brain would
On Jul 30, 8:34 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
1. Involuted continuum of universal sense: That the mind/body problem
is understood to be a manifestation at the scale of a human being of a
principle of private/interior-public/exterior relations common to all
phenomena in the
On Jul 30, 12:08 pm, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
If you have 10,000 people all wear
different colored T-Shirts and stand in an arrangement to make an
image of Mickey Mouse as seen from the air - those
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Jul 30, 1:08 am, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com
wrote:
It may or may not, but a system which could respond to questions in the
On Jul 30, 12:17 pm, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
The remarkable consequence of the Church-Turing thesis is that a computer
can emulate any definable process, just as headphones can emulate any
possible sound. A pair of headphones can sound like a jack hammer, a person
signing, or
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Jul 30, 12:08 pm, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com
wrote:
If you have 10,000 people all wear
different colored T-Shirts and
On Jul 30, 5:18 pm, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
So would an accurate reproduction of your brain processes, assuming you are
capable of lying and ignoring.
No, it's not my brain lying or ignoring, it's the other side of the
brain - the self, which is not directly accessible from the
On Jul 30, 5:44 pm, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
pain in their thigh?
The China brain can't simulate the interior sense of a neuron. It's
just a dynamic sculpture.
So the only sturcture in the universe that can perceive are neurons or
groups of neurons?
No, not at all.
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Jul 30, 5:18 pm, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
So would an accurate reproduction of your brain processes, assuming you
are
capable of lying and ignoring.
No, it's not my brain lying or ignoring, it's
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Jul 30, 5:44 pm, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
pain in their thigh?
The China brain can't simulate the interior sense of a neuron. It's
just a dynamic sculpture.
So the only sturcture in the
On Jul 30, 10:10 pm, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
Just as you say there is an inside and outside part of the mind/brain, I
believe the same is true of Turing machines.
A Turing machine, in and of itself, is
On Jul 30, 10:30 pm, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
So the only sturcture in the universe that can perceive are neurons or
groups of neurons?
No, not at all. Everything perceives like what it is,
Even software?
Software isn't a thing in the way I'm using the word. It's an
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