Re: Hitch

2013-07-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 Jul 2013, at 21:06, meekerdb wrote: On 7/13/2013 1:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Irreversibility of first person experience can be recovered from reversible computation. That would be statistical irreversibility, i.e. reversal is improbable but not impossible. Why? Not necessarily.

Re: the love torture

2013-07-14 Thread spudboy100
For sure, it seems much nicer and less power hungry. But its all familiar, and only the Iranians have animosity against the Zoroastrians. They are persucted by the Shia leadership in Tehran. Not treated well at all. Much of Christianity and other religions including Judaism, the Bahai's, etc, a

Re: the love torture

2013-07-14 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 6:02 PM, meekerdb wrote: > Christianity borrowed heavily from Zoroastrianism: final battle, good > over evil, judgement day, punishment of the wicked. BUT the punishment > wasn't eternal and everybody gets to heaven eventually and nobody has to > get crucified. > *Christ

Re: the love torture

2013-07-14 Thread spudboy100
Yeah, good meme's never grow stale, do they? The virgin birth thing has always been beyond my comprehension, or sympathy. My point is while Brother Odd, gets howled at by screaming crowds of Dawkin-ites ;-) Khaleel of the bloodied beard gets a pass, because, "they're crazy!" So the Dawkinites

Re: the love torture

2013-07-14 Thread John Mikes
Brent wrote: *But it's not the only life-after-death card. In fact Christianity borrowed heavily from Zoroastrianism: final battle, good over evil, judgement day, punishment of the wicked. BUT the punishment wasn't eternal and everybody gets to heaven eventually and nobody has to get crucified.*

Re: the love torture

2013-07-14 Thread spudboy100
Yah! But first let us get beyond dust and bones, and then we can sweat over who gets a spanking and who gets a cookie? We ain't gonna feel the spank or the cookles if we are mindless nothingness. -Original Message- From: John Mikes To: everything-list Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2013 5:05 p

Re: the love torture

2013-07-14 Thread meekerdb
On 7/14/2013 10:36 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: Yeah, good meme's never grow stale, do they? The virgin birth thing has always been beyond my comprehension, or sympathy. Virgin births are de rigueur for god-men. They obviously have mothers who are human, so their divinity must come from the

Re: the love torture

2013-07-14 Thread meekerdb
On 7/14/2013 2:13 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: Yah! But first let us get beyond dust and bones, and then we can sweat over who gets a spanking and who gets a cookie? We ain't gonna feel the spank or the cookles if we are mindless nothingness. But my point is that religions invented an after-l