On Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:31:26 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:55:18 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:19:20 PM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:03:48 PM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
it
Here's another breakthrough on the horizon - in Scotland (of all places to
be using solar power! :)
http://www.sciencescotland.org/feature.php?id=69
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On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 7:31 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
wrote:
most people can't juggle 5 balls. A few people can, but nobody thinks
they are creative because of it.
I think you'd have to admit that all
Thanks for the advice. However, I don't think you should feel sorry for
me for believing that I am right and everybody else is wrong. I have a
feeling that even you would admit that there is a possibility, however
unlikely, that i could be correct and Einstein (and all of those who
believe him)
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
wrote:
you could define creativity as the ability to generate interesting
things.
OK.
I was trying to avoid interesting to not get into a circular
definition.
There is no circularity. Although there are several
As someone who can juggle 5 balls, I would say there really is very little,
if any, creativity involved. It's purely training of muscle memory over
hundreds/thousands of repetitions. I'm not even sure how creativity would
enter the equation... I suppose you could be creative about how you train
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
You mean that you made many attempts to find a blunder, but we were more
than three to show you that in each case, you were confusing 1-views and
3-views.
That was your one and only retort in our debate, no explanation
On 6/18/2014 11:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Jun 2014, at 19:03, meekerdb wrote:
Quantum effects in belief. Can comp explain this?
I have not the time look at that definition of belief, but actually (this is not a
confession, I have already explain this, but probably not so lately) a
On 6/18/2014 3:15 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
But it does illustrate the way evolution can get stuck in a local
optima. And also further evidence that any purported Creator must be
completely incompetent.
Evolution always must begin with a preexisting platform -- so to
On 18 Jun 2014, at 05:53, Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 06:54:25PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Jun 2014, at 10:42, Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:27:02AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Jun 2014, at 00:57, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sun,
2014-06-19 19:25 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
You mean that you made many attempts to find a blunder, but we were more
than three to show you that in each case, you were confusing 1-views and
3-views.
I'm ok nowadays with creativity, beauty, aesthetics as undefinable pointer
to transcendental properties better not named or scrutinized, but
inhabited, lived and interpreted by various entities.
Difficulty, novelty, interest, as with any list, or the various definitions
laid down by history, seem
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
That machine does not know in advance its future state, and that is
what I meant.
So a Turing Machine has free will.
Not all turing machine, you need one which can guess that she does not
know.
There is nothing
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 7:50 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
If after saying whats wrong with Bruno's vacuous proof over and over
and over and over and over and over again for 3 years and you still ask
what is it then what would be the point of me repeating it yet again?
If you've said
My point is that time passes at the same rate everywhere in our Universe,
no matter where you are or how fast you are traveling. For example, if we
knew exactly when the Big Bang occurred, the time since the Big Bang
should be the same everywhere.
John R
On 19 June 2014 02:47, John Clark
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 8:25 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
That machine does not know in advance its future state, and that is
what I meant.
So a Turing Machine has free will.
Not all turing machine,
On 18 Jun 2014, at 07:23, meekerdb wrote:
Bruno, I wonder if you're aware of this critique of Maudlin's
Olympia argument, which of course also applies to the MGA?
http://www.colinklein.org/papers/OlympiaOMachines.pdf
Hmm. I should read that at ease, and not after ten hours of oral
On 18 Jun 2014, at 08:37, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
It seems to me Olympia is a simple table lookup for the input, the
argument he uses to place it in the oracle camp seems invalid to me,
he posits that he is able to construct a lookup table that contains
the result of the halting problem...
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
you accept 1/3 distinction in MWI
Forget MWI, EVERYBODY who is not in a padded cell accepts the 1/3
distinction.
please do not come again with the I could meet my doppelganger crap.
In MWI the laws of physics
2014-06-19 21:10 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
you accept 1/3 distinction in MWI
Forget MWI, EVERYBODY who is not in a padded cell accepts the 1/3
distinction.
please do not come again with
Beautiful...and this is still not the last word
John M
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:22 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's another breakthrough on the horizon - in Scotland (of all places to
be using solar power! :)
http://www.sciencescotland.org/feature.php?id=69
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On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
No the I before measuring the spin, is as clear as the I pushing the
button, no confusion... When I ask that I what is the probability he'll see
spin up *UNDER MWI WHERE YOU'LL BE DUPLICATED DOING SUCH EXPERIMENT*,
2014-06-19 21:55 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
No the I before measuring the spin, is as clear as the I pushing the
button, no confusion... When I ask that I what is the probability he'll see
spin up
2014-06-19 22:52 GMT+02:00 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com:
2014-06-19 21:55 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
No the I before measuring the spin, is as clear as the I pushing the
button, no
On 19 June 2014 14:34, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 11:54:17 PM UTC+1, Liz R wrote:
On 19 June 2014 02:01, jr...@trexenterprises.com wrote:
My point is that the logic behind Einstein's special and general
relativity theories is faulty.
In what way is it faulty? SR
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 07:53:55PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
And why do you say that anybody (whether zombie or not) can *prove*
the existence of primitive matter? We don't know that for a fact.
I played the devil advocate. I put my foot in Peter Jones' food, and
imagine he could
Perhaps because the two mechanisms function quite differently and apparently
evolved independently. But I also sometimes wonder why in the many hundreds of
millions of years of time that no species has found a way to utilize the
missing chunk of spectrum.
A perfect plant would have jet black
I have long thought that plants should be black, too, for this reason.
Anyone know why not?
On 20 June 2014 11:40, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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Perhaps because the two mechanisms function quite differently and
apparently evolved
On 20 June 2014 06:32, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 7:50 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
If after saying whats wrong with Bruno's vacuous proof over and
over and over and over and over and over again for 3 years and you
still ask what is it then what
On 20 June 2014 07:10, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
you accept 1/3 distinction in MWI
Forget MWI, EVERYBODY who is not in a padded cell accepts the 1/3
distinction.
OK, so there isn't any real problem
On 20 June 2014 06:48, jr...@trexenterprises.com wrote:
My point is that time passes at the same rate everywhere in our Universe,
no matter where you are or how fast you are traveling. For example, if we
knew exactly when the Big Bang occurred, the time since the Big Bang
should be the same
Just saw this: When Elon Musk dreams... he certainly dreams big... and he has a
track record of making his seemingly wild ideas come true... SpaceX and Tesla
Musk announces plans to build ‘one of the single largest solar panel production
plants in the world’ and send people to Mars in ten
On 20 June 2014 04:42, jr...@trexenterprises.com wrote:
Thanks for the advice. However, I don't think you should feel sorry for
me for believing that I am right and everybody else is wrong. I have a
feeling that even you would admit that there is a possibility, however
unlikely, that i
Wow. I hope he has plans to protect those Marsnauts from cosmic rays.
On 20 June 2014 13:56, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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Just saw this: When Elon Musk dreams... he certainly dreams big... and he
has a track record of making his seemingly
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Wow. I hope he has plans to protect those Marsnauts from cosmic rays.
On 6/19/2014 10:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Why is that a contradiction?
In fact there are two contradictions.
I explain the contradiction which is relate to about.
'To prove A', classically, is equivalent to showing that ~A leads to a contradiction,
that is ~A is inconsistent. This
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