Re: Entanglement

On 4/13/2018 7:15 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 2:05:04 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/13/2018 6:35 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 1:08:55 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/13/2018 5:56 PM, agrays...@gmail.com

Re: Entanglement

On 4/13/2018 2:48 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: What would it mean to "understand it" besides being able to use the equations to make correct inferences? Brent * It's an ostensible contradiction with relativity that information transfer cannot be

Re: Entanglement

On 4/13/2018 12:24 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 6:53:23 PM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/13/2018 6:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: *But since the momentum of either particle doesn't pre-exist the measurement, there is a FTL influence, which IS

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 9:28:02 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/13/2018 12:24 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 6:53:23 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/13/2018 6:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> *But since the momentum of either particle

Re: Mind Uploading

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​ > *You are confusing* > *​* [...]​ > ​Horseshit ​ ​fron bullshit? ​ ​> ​ > *The follower of Aristotle thought* > ​[,,,]​ > I don't give a damn what the followers of Aristotle The Ignorant thought. ​> *​* >

Re: Mind Uploading

On 4/13/2018 7:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Your theory doesn't explain it without "adding more magic" either.  You start by assuming that certain computations must instantiate consciousness. You confuse UDA and AUDA. The UDA (Universal Dovetailer Argument) assumes mechanism, which is the

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 6:53:23 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/13/2018 6:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > *But since the momentum of either particle doesn't pre-exist the > measurement, there is a FTL influence, which IS hard to understand. In > fact, I doubt anyone does

Re: Entanglement

On 4/13/2018 6:44 AM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: *But since the momentum of either particle doesn't pre-exist the measurement, there is a FTL influence, which IS hard to understand. In fact, I doubt anyone does understand it. AG * What would it mean to "understand it" besides being able

Re: Entanglement

On 4/13/2018 3:41 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 9:53:18 PM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/13/2018 2:48 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: What would it mean to "understand it" besides being able to use the equations to make correct

Re: Entanglement

On 4/13/2018 6:35 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 1:08:55 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/13/2018 5:56 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 12:50:41 AM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Friday, April 13, 2018 at

Re: Entanglement

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 2:05:04 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/13/2018 6:35 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 1:08:55 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/13/2018 5:56 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at

Re: Entanglement

On 4/13/2018 5:56 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 12:50:41 AM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 2:24:11 PM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 6:53:23 PM UTC, Brent wrote:

Re: Entanglement

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 1:08:55 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/13/2018 5:56 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 12:50:41 AM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 2:24:11 PM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>>

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 2:24:11 PM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 6:53:23 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/13/2018 6:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> *But since the momentum of either particle doesn't pre-exist the >> measurement, there is

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 9:53:18 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/13/2018 2:48 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > What would it mean to "understand it" besides being able to use the >>> equations to make correct inferences? >>> >>> Brent >>> >> >> * It's an ostensible contradiction with

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 10:41:07 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 9:53:18 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/13/2018 2:48 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> What would it mean to "understand it" besides being able to use the equations to

Re: Entanglement

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 12:50:41 AM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 2:24:11 PM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 6:53:23 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/13/2018 6:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 3:10:52 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > From: > > > On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 11:56:40 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >> >> From: >> >> >> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 10:12:58 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 11:02:03 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 3:10:52 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: >> >> From: >> >> >> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 11:56:40 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> From: >>> >>> >>> On

Re: Entanglement

From: > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 11:02:03 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 3:10:52 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: From: On Thursday, April

Re: Entanglement

From: > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 3:10:52 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: From: On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 11:56:40 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: From: On Thursday, April 12, 2018

Re: Mind Uploading

> On 11 Apr 2018, at 21:02, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 4/10/2018 11:44 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 11 Apr 2018, at 01:29, John Clark >> > wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Bruno Marchal

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 12:48:11 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > From: > > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 11:02:03 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 3:10:52 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> From: >>> >>> >>> On Thursday,

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 12:48:11 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > From: > > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 11:02:03 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 3:10:52 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> From: >>> >>> >>> On Thursday,

Re: Mind Uploading

> On 11 Apr 2018, at 18:30, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:44 AM, Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > >> If a theory can only explain how 6% of the matter/energy in the universe > >> works then it can't be