Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

> On 3 Dec 2019, at 03:18, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 12:39 PM smitra > wrote: > On 02-12-2019 09:39, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 7:19 PM Philip Thrift > > > > wrote: > > > > "even in many-worlds

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

On 03-12-2019 05:21, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 12/2/2019 5:39 PM, smitra wrote: On 02-12-2019 09:39, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 7:19 PM Philip Thrift wrote: On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 6:24:08 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 12:35 PM

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 2:39:46 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 29 Nov 2019, at 22:59, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 2:49:17 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 12:33:26 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>>

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

> On 3 Dec 2019, at 05:21, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 12/2/2019 5:39 PM, smitra wrote: >> On 02-12-2019 09:39, Bruce Kellett wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 7:19 PM Philip Thrift >>> wrote: >>> On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 6:24:08 PM UTC-6, Bruce

Re: Branching on real-world decisions

> On 2 Dec 2019, at 12:06, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 8:08 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > On 29 Nov 2019, at 00:50, Bruce Kellett > wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 1:27 AM Bruno Marchal > >

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 10:21:53 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > The reason is that many different > quasi-classical brain states will be consistent with that thought...not > only different quantum superpositions. > > > Brent > > Doesn't Penrose think that there cannot be thoughts

Re: Are Real Numbers Really Real?

> On 2 Dec 2019, at 19:10, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 12/2/2019 12:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> In First Order Logic, Real Numbers are the one which simplifies. The first >> order theory of the real is decidable, unlike the first order theory of the >>

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

> On 28 Nov 2019, at 19:38, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 12:12:22 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > On 11/27/2019 11:51 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 5:39:09 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> On Wednesday, November 27,

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

> On 30 Nov 2019, at 02:35, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 11/28/2019 4:17 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 5:12 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >> mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> On 11/27/2019 11:51 PM, Philip Thrift

Re: Are Real Numbers Really Real?

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 2:40:27 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 7:30:13 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 2:52:05 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 12:58 PM Lawrence Crowell < >>>

Re: Are Real Numbers Really Real?

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 4:38:56 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > >> > I am not thinking of this. In fact this idea seems completely wrong > headed. It might have been that people would have tried to capture QM by > imposing stochastic Wiener processes and the like. > > LC > >

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

> On 29 Nov 2019, at 22:59, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 2:49:17 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 12:33:26 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > In any case, in the case of MWI, in the types of examples Sean Carroll talks >

Re: Are Real Numbers Really Real?

On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 7:30:13 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 2:52:05 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 12:58 PM Lawrence Crowell < >> goldenfield...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Spacetime does not really fundamentally exist. It

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

> On 3 Dec 2019, at 02:39, smitra wrote: > > On 02-12-2019 09:39, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 7:19 PM Philip Thrift >> wrote: >>> On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 6:24:08 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 12:35 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>>

Re: Are Real Numbers Really Real?

For symmetry protected quantum states, which are local entanglements, they are local because the symmetry or group action is generally covariant. This covariant property enforces what we think of as space and time. LC On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 7:29:13 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > > On

Re: Are Real Numbers Really Real?

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 8:30 PM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > *Spacetime is an epiphenomenology of entanglement. There are several ways > entanglement can happen. There is topological order that has no scaling, or > where the entanglement occurs without any

Re: Are Real Numbers Really Real?

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 8:02:29 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > For symmetry protected quantum states, which are local entanglements, they > are local because the symmetry or group action is generally covariant. This > covariant property enforces what we think of as space and

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

On 12/3/2019 12:51 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 10:21:53 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:  The reason is that many different quasi-classical brain states will be consistent with that thought...not only different quantum superpositions. Brent

Re: C60 Interference

The interpretation of a superposition as representing a system that can be in one or the other state, is incompatible with interference experiments. *Please, if you can, elaborate why this is the case? AG* And physicist don't care much about interpretation and the language used to communicate

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 8:03 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 3 Dec 2019, at 03:18, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > My brain currently has only one state. > > How do you know that? How could you know that. > It is a pretty good hypothesis. > Other states may be consistent with my current conscious state,

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 1:58:20 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 12/3/2019 12:51 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 10:21:53 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> The reason is that many different >> quasi-classical brain states will be consistent with that

Re: Energy conservation in many-worlds

On 12/3/2019 6:36 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: The opposite of experiential realism. • A Defense of Experiential Realism: The Need to take Phenomenological Reality on its own Terms One wonders what