Re: Can someone explain why this doesn't work?

2013-07-26 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:21 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: I think this misunderstands Jason's thought experiment. I think he's assuming the source is polarized at 0deg, the same as A, not a random source as you assume. The photon has no polarization at all unless a filter is

Re: Can someone explain why this doesn't work?

2013-07-26 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:52 AM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:21 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: I think this misunderstands Jason's thought experiment. I think he's assuming the source is polarized at 0deg, the same as A, not a random source

Re: Can someone explain why this doesn't work?

2013-07-26 Thread meekerdb
On 7/26/2013 8:52 AM, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:21 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: I think this misunderstands Jason's thought experiment. I think he's assuming the source is polarized at 0deg, the same as A, not a random source

Re: Can someone explain why this doesn't work?

2013-07-26 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: If a photon passes a filter orientated at 0 degrees, then it encounters a filter at 90 degrees it will be blocked. How do you know the photon is oriented at 0 degrees? If the photon has never been measured, if neither it nor its

Re: Can someone explain why this doesn't work?

2013-07-26 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 3:57 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2013Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: If a photon passes a filter orientated at 0 degrees, then it encounters a filter at 90 degrees it will be blocked. How do you know the photon is oriented at

Re: Can someone explain why this doesn't work?

2013-07-26 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: So why is it the entanglement is destroyed by the presence of the 45 degree filter, but not the 0 degree filter? Because before the photon hit the 0 degree filter, that is to say before it was measured, neither it nor

Re: Can someone explain why this doesn't work?

2013-07-25 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: To me it seems that must be incorrect, because it would enable super luminal communication. By sending a continuous stream of entangled photons in opposite directions I can't send a message that way because I have no way of

Re: Can someone explain why this doesn't work?

2013-07-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 23 Jul 2013, at 16:00, Jason Resch wrote: When there are two polarizers A and C, which are rotated by 90 degrees to each other then no photons will pass through both polarizers. However, if we insert polarizer B at a 45 degree offset to A and C then 1/4 of the photons will make it

Re: Can someone explain why this doesn't work?

2013-07-23 Thread meekerdb
On 7/23/2013 7:00 AM, Jason Resch wrote: When there are two polarizers A and C, which are rotated by 90 degrees to each other then no photons will pass through both polarizers. However, if we insert polarizer B at a 45 degree offset to A and C then 1/4 of the photons will make it through.

Re: Can someone explain why this doesn't work?

2013-07-23 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:48 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/23/2013 7:00 AM, Jason Resch wrote: When there are two polarizers A and C, which are rotated by 90 degrees to each other then no photons will pass through both polarizers. However, if we insert polarizer B at a 45

Re: Can someone explain why this doesn't work?

2013-07-23 Thread meekerdb
On 7/23/2013 2:49 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:48 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/23/2013 7:00 AM, Jason Resch wrote: When there are two polarizers A and C, which are rotated by 90 degrees to each other then no

Re: Can someone explain why this doesn't work?

2013-07-23 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:12 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/23/2013 2:49 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:48 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/23/2013 7:00 AM, Jason Resch wrote: When there are two polarizers A and C, which are rotated by 90