Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-15 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King Infinity is not communicable. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 11/15/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-03, 12:33:49 Subject:

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-10 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King Then you will get an incorrect motion, which indeed would be very,very interesting. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 11/10/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receive

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-09 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King In idealism, physics is conceptual, so things must happen as they're supposed to. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 11/9/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receive

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-08 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King You don't need to throw anything. Parabolas are completely described mathematically. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 11/8/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiv

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-05 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King Hmm, it's a fine point, but communicability implies symbols. I believe that there were numbers before there were symbols for them. There have to be symbols if they are used to think with, but IMHO they were there before that in order for creation to happen systematically, a

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-05 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King Do you know of any comp outputs that we could examine ? I myself worship data. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 11/5/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiver: ev

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-05 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King Science is based on and produces facts. I don't think you would want to call these facts opinions unless they referred to global warming. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 11/5/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the fol

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-05 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen, I wouldn't be too hard on Russell, at least as far as logic goes. He had no way of knowing of Godel's proof. And Whitehead had joined him in the principia project. Certainly two of the brightest minds that ever lived. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 11/5/2012 "Forever is a l

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-03 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King Contingent truths (facts) are not always true. They are constructed by inference or induction by man (a la Francis Bacon). Quantities are such. Necessary truths are/were/shall be always true. They can't be invented, they have to be discovered. Numbers are such. Arithmetic o

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-03 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King Bertrand Russell was a superb logician but he was not infallible with regard to metaphysics. He called Leibniz's metaphysics "an enchanted land" and confessed that he hadn't a clue to what the meaning of pragmatism is. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 11/3/2012 "Forever