Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-15 Thread Roger Clough
: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic On 11/3/2012 9:13 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Necessary truths are/were/shall be always true. They can't be invented, they have to be discovered. Numbers are such. Yes, but not just discovered, they must be communicable. Arithmetic

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-10 Thread Roger Clough
: everything-list Time: 2012-11-09, 13:22:37 Subject: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic On 11/9/2012 11:17 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stephen P. King In idealism, physics is conceptual, so things must happen as they're supposed to. Hi Roger

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-09 Thread Roger Clough
: everything-list Time: 2012-11-08, 08:36:43 Subject: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic On 11/8/2012 6:29 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stephen P. King You don't need to throw anything. Parabolas are completely described mathematically. OK, what

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-08 Thread Roger Clough
Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-07, 19:42:25 Subject: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic On 11/7/2012 12:46 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Nov 2012, at 17:16, Stephen P. King wrote: On 11/7/2012 9:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Nov 2012, at 17:05, Stephen P

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-05 Thread Roger Clough
is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-04, 12:51:59 Subject: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic On 03 Nov 2012, at 19:27, Stephen P. King wrote: On 11

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-05 Thread Roger Clough
the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-04, 11:37:58 Subject: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic On 11/4/2012 12:37 AM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/3/2012 11:06 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 11/3/2012 10:35 PM, meekerdb wrote

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-05 Thread Roger Clough
: everything-list Time: 2012-11-04, 11:55:27 Subject: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic On 11/4/2012 9:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 03 Nov 2012, at 13:06, Stephen P. King wrote: On 11/3/2012 6:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Dear Bruno, No, that cannot be the case

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-05 Thread Roger Clough
- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-03, 13:33:49 Subject: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic On 11/3/2012 9:13 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Necessary truths are/were/shall be always true. They can't be invented, they have to be discovered

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-03 Thread Roger Clough
is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-02, 17:03:42 Subject: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic On 11/2/2012 12:55 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote

Re: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic

2012-11-03 Thread Roger Clough
:06:59 Subject: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic On 11/3/2012 6:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Dear Bruno, No, that cannot be the case since statements do not even exist if the framework or theory that defines them does not exist, therefore there is not 'truth