Hi Stephen P. King Do you know of any comp outputs that we could examine ? I myself worship data.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 11/5/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-04, 11:55:27 Subject: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic On 11/4/2012 9:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 03 Nov 2012, at 13:06, Stephen P. King wrote: On 11/3/2012 6:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Dear Bruno, No, that cannot be the case since statements do not even exist if the framework or theory that defines them does not exist, therefore there is not 'truth' for a non-exitence entity. Brent already debunked this. The truth of a statement does not need the existence of the statement. You confuse again the truth of 1+1=2, with a possible claim of that truth, like "1+1=2". Horsefeathers! How is the truth of an arithmetic statement separable from any claim of that truth? Explain me how the truth of an arithmetical truth depends on its being claimed or not. Hi Bruno, I am using the possibility of a claim to make my argument, not any actual instance of a claim. There is a difference. In comp there are claims that such and such know or believe or bet. I am trying to widen our thinking of how the potentials of acts is important. What is the possible value of a statement that we can make no claims about? We can make claim about them, but we don't need to do that for them being true or false. Who are the "we" that you refer to? Bruno -- Onward! Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.