Hi Stephen P. King  

Hmm, it's a fine point, but communicability implies symbols.
I believe that there were numbers before there were symbols for them. 
There have to be symbols if they are used to think with, 
but IMHO they were there before that in order for creation to 
happen systematically, according to some plan, and to have design.
I think that the One can do such things spontaneously or else
the One would be subservient to numbers.


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
11/5/2012  
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 


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Time: 2012-11-03, 13:33:49 
Subject: Re: On the ontological status of elementary arithmetic 


On 11/3/2012 9:13 AM, Roger Clough wrote: 
> Necessary truths are/were/shall be always true. They can't be invented, 
> they have to be discovered. Numbers are such. 

     Yes, but not just discovered, they must be communicable. 

> 
> Arithmetic or had to exist before man or 
> the Big Bang woujld not have worked. 

     I do not restrict entities with 1p to humanity. 


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