Re: Re: Technological (Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis)

2012-08-31 Thread Roger Clough
: Technological (Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis) I think that the Platonic realm is just time, and that time is nothing but experience. Thought is the experience of generating hypothetical experience. The mistake is presuming that because we perceive exterior realism as a topology

Re: Re: Technological (Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis)

2012-08-31 Thread Roger Clough
. - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-30, 18:16:32 Subject: Re: Technological (Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis) On Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:00:49 PM UTC-4, Stephen Paul King wrote: On 8/30/2012 1:53 PM, Craig Weinberg

Re: Technological (Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis)

2012-08-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
(Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis) On Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:00:49 PM UTC-4, Stephen Paul King wrote: On 8/30/2012 1:53 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: I think that the Platonic realm is just time, and that time is nothing but experience. Hi Craig, I would say

Re: Re: Technological (Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis)

2012-08-31 Thread Roger Clough
to invent him so that everything could function. - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-31, 09:56:27 Subject: Re: Technological (Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis) On 31 Aug 2012, at 12:03, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Craig

Re: Technological (Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis)

2012-08-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
: Re: Technological (Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis) On 31 Aug 2012, at 12:03, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg According to Einstein, space doesn't exist per se. Remarkably, Leibniz also came this conclusion back in the 17th century. I agree. And with comp nothing

Re: Re: Technological (Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis)

2012-08-31 Thread Craig Weinberg
*Subject:* Re: Technological (Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis) I think that the Platonic realm is just time, and that time is nothing but experience. Thought is the experience of generating hypothetical experience. The mistake is presuming that because we perceive exterior

Technological (Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis)

2012-08-30 Thread Roger Clough
What is thinking ? Parmenides thought that thinking and being are one, which IMHO I agree with. Thoughts come to us from the Platonic realm, which I personally, perhaps mistakenly, associate with what would be Penrose's incomputable realm. Here is a brief discussion of technological or

Re: Technological (Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis)

2012-08-30 Thread Craig Weinberg
I think that the Platonic realm is just time, and that time is nothing but experience. Thought is the experience of generating hypothetical experience. The mistake is presuming that because we perceive exterior realism as a topology of bodies that the ground of being must be defined in those

Re: Technological (Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis)

2012-08-30 Thread Stephen P. King
On 8/30/2012 1:53 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: I think that the Platonic realm is just time, and that time is nothing but experience. Hi Craig, I would say that time is the sequencing order of experience. The order of simultaneously givens within experience is physical space. Thought

Re: Technological (Machine) Thinking and Lived Being (Erlebnis)

2012-08-30 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:00:49 PM UTC-4, Stephen Paul King wrote: On 8/30/2012 1:53 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: I think that the Platonic realm is just time, and that time is nothing but experience. Hi Craig, I would say that time is the sequencing order of experience.