Re: [Evolution] Support for Oauth2 and Office365

[Anymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On 11/18/22 18:53, Michael Kenny via evolution-list wrote:

I believe You have to use Exchange Web Services, not IMAP and the
server address is https://outlook.office365.com/ews/exchange.asmx

Once that authenticates click check for Supported Types and it will
pull Outh2.  You should get a pop up somewhere it that process to enter
your Office 365 info.


I'll be a little bit traitorist 

when Evolution fails, I fall back to Thunderbird, which works just
fine with Office365 using IMAP and Oauth2



-Original Message-
From: Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list 
Reply-To: Anonymous Japhering 
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Support for Oauth2 and Office365
Date: 11/18/2022 11:17:37 AM


On 11/18/22 10:30, Pete Biggs wrote:

On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 10:19 -0600, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:

Evolution 3.46.1 (by Flathub.org)

The aforementioned version doesn't support Oauth2 for connections
to
Microsoft's Office365.

As MS has cut off use of plain passwords, and none of the other
methods
offered by
Evolution are supported by MS Office365 servers, I'm wondering when
Oauth2 might become
available for this use case in Evolution.


I'm using OAuth2 with O365 on Evolution 3.44.x - it's been available
for a long time.  Are you saying it doesn't work with the Flatpack
version, or that it doesn't work with 3.46.x at all?

With  the 3.46.1 version available in Flatpak, Oauth2 is not an
available option to select.

Clicking the button to query the support types removes all the
options other than "Password"
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Support for Oauth2 and Office365

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On 11/18/22 10:30, Pete Biggs wrote:

On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 10:19 -0600, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:

Evolution 3.46.1 (by Flathub.org)

The aforementioned version doesn't support Oauth2 for connections to
Microsoft's Office365.

As MS has cut off use of plain passwords, and none of the other methods
offered by
Evolution are supported by MS Office365 servers, I'm wondering when
Oauth2 might become
available for this use case in Evolution.


I'm using OAuth2 with O365 on Evolution 3.44.x - it's been available
for a long time.  Are you saying it doesn't work with the Flatpack
version, or that it doesn't work with 3.46.x at all?

With  the 3.46.1 version available in Flatpak, Oauth2 is not an
available option to select.

Clicking the button to query the support types removes all the
options other than "Password"___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Support for Oauth2 and Office365

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution 3.46.1 (by Flathub.org)

The aforementioned version doesn't support Oauth2 for connections to 
Microsoft's Office365.


As MS has cut off use of plain passwords, and none of the other methods 
offered by
Evolution are supported by MS Office365 servers, I'm wondering when 
Oauth2 might become

available for this use case in Evolution.

Thanks.

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On 11/14/22 12:08, Paul Smith wrote:

On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 09:19 -0600, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:

The 3.46.x flatpak series has been a total disaster for me.
Mysterious segfaults after 15 or so actions.

This is (probably) due to the bug in libsoup, which has been fixed but
that fix has not made it to the releases yet.

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/libsoup/-/issues/308


Connection failures right and left.  I manage 8 email addresses. 4
Google workspace address, 2 Google free gmail address and 2 MS office
online addresses.  All 8 use Oauth2 to authenticate via IMAP.   At
the moment, 3 of google address won't authenticate ( 2 paid, 1 free)
and 1 of the MS accounts also fails.

Hm.  I have 1 IMAP, 2 GMail (1 company 1 private), and 1 Exchange and
all work properly for me.


When it works Flatpak is a nice tool, a much better alternative than
trying build Evolution from scratch or running the distro version
which is on 3.36.5

I just want to make clear that the above issues are not due to
_flatpak_ as a technology (at least there's no proof of that).  They
are due to issues in Evolution 3.46 (or libraries it uses like
libsoup).


Never said it was a Flatpak issue, just an issue that has been eating
my lunch since 3.46.x went live.


IOW, if you had Evolution 3.46 installed natively on your system, not
via flatpak, you'd almost certainly see the same issues.  Flatpak
won't, unfortunately, fix bugs in software it packages :).

Unfortunately,  Ubuntu/Linux Mint trail Evolution by so much as to
make the distro install worthless to me, as I seem to be abusing Evolution
around the edges.  I left the distro provided version because of missing
functionality and bugs that impacted me, moving to the more current
Flatpak version.

Not to mention I don't have time nor disk space to build from scratch.


The nice thing about flatpak is it's quite simple to install an older
version (e.g., Evolution 3.44) if that's helpful to you.  If you're
seeing crashes that often you may well want to downgrade until the
libsoup issue is resolved in a flatpak.

Tried that once, was as nice as you imply as Evolution requires other
flatpaks to work properly. So you end up in a dependency hell trying to
get all the bits to the appropriate levels.

I find it easier just keep an instance of Thunderbird configured for when
Evolution flakes out.
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On 11/8/22 00:21, Paul Smith wrote:

On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 16:17 -0600, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
wrote:

On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 16:34 -0500, Paul Smith wrote:

I'm not sure I understand this comment.  The whole point of flatpak
(and snap) is that it's not _supposed_ to need to worry about the
dependencies of the distribution.  That's why you'd use it.


Which is why they are bad ideas to use. There is no way that ARCH or
Gentoo or Kali use the same dependencies. It's called "Dependency
Hell" and the theory of FlatPack and SNAP not needing to follow or
use a distributions is like walking into a [...]

As mentioned I'm using Ubuntu 20.04 which has a similar vintage of
Gnome desktop and apps, including Evolution, that the Debian stable in
question uses.  And the flatpak version of Evolution 3.46 works great
on my system.


The 3.46.x flatpak series has been a total disaster for me. Mysterious

segfaults after 15 or so actions.

Connection failures right and left.  I manage 8 email addresses. 4 Google
workspace address, 2 Google free gmail address and 2 MS office online
addresses.  All 8 use Oauth2 to authenticate via IMAP.   At the moment,
3 of google address won't authenticate ( 2 paid, 1 free) and 1 of the MS
accounts also fails.

Every Flatpak component is fully updated, leaving me running 3.46.1 at
the moment.

When it works Flatpak is a nice tool, a much better alternative than trying
build Evolution from scratch or running the distro version which is on 
3.36.5


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On 10/21/22 11:50, Brewster Gillett wrote:

  Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list wrote:

A quick and simple question: who is in position to decide to move this list
to another mailing list, hosted elsewhere? There have been already a few
propositions on this list for an alternative. Who is the "owner" of this
list who can decide about the move?

bg:

Excellent question. I'll toss out this possibility:



We're using groups.io for a couple of the Mensa discussion lists I'm on.
Mostly indistinguishable from good ol' mailman. Don't know if there's
a cost involved, but I would be willing to contribute if we move there.


Groups.io is interesting but also there are a few concerning things

The free level only allows up to 100 members -- how many folks are in
the current list?

All levels have restrictions on archive size:  1GB, 30GB, 1TB. Anyone
know how big, size wise, the archives are?

It appears to be possible that the archives could, with some rules and
volunteer help, be converted into a Wiki or move into some other integrated
service (would need to get the complete list of integrations to see).

Hashtags might be useful to avoid subgroups ( user, dev, bugs, help etc ).

For those that still use RSS, there is an email to RSS feed.

Monthly pricing or Year in advance ( 12 months for the price of 11 )

Groups.io:

Free level

   Unlimited messages
   Up to 100 members
   Advanced moderation features
   1GB attachment storage

Premium level -  $0.04/member per month with a $20/month minimum

   Everything in Free, plus:

   Direct add members
   Customizable profiles and member data
   Unlimited subgroups
   Calendar
   Files section
   Photo albums
   Real-time chat
   Wiki
   Structured databases
   Polls
   Accept donations from members
   30GB storage space

Enterprise level -  $0.20/member per month with a $200/month minimum

   Everything in Premium, plus:

   Your own branding
   Your own domain
   Single sign on, via Auth0 (others by request)
   Customizable home page
   1TB storage space
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On 10/21/22 09:15, Pete Biggs wrote:

On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 16:04 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
wrote:

Dnia 21.10.2022 o godz. 14:57:04 Patrick O'Callaghan pisze:

As others have said, Evolution is primarily an email client, and it
makes sense that its main support forum should be a properly managed
mailing list.

A quick and simple question: who is in position to decide to move this list
to another mailing list, hosted elsewhere? There have been already a few
propositions on this list for an alternative. Who is the "owner" of this
list who can decide about the move?

I think the issue is largely that Evolution is a Gnome application. Any
"official" list - i.e. mentioned in documentation and so on - should,
or really can only, be under the auspices of the Gnome organisation. If
it's not then it's just some other random mailing list.

Gnome users will consistently be pointed towards Discourse as the route
for help and support; the developers will primarily be using Discourse
as their route to helping people and receiving feedback. No matter how
often people are told that "the helpful people are over there", it
would still be unofficial and unlikely to gain traction.


And via use of the "Trust" system, they have rendered it impossible
to shadow the list as that ID will never develop any trust.
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Discourse -- Insufficient Trust Level

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On 10/21/22 09:14, Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list wrote:

Dnia 21.10.2022 o godz. 09:09:48 Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list pisze:

Agreed, discourse is an not much better than a surreptitiously installed
remote access tool.  It is invasive  and darn near impossible to remove
from window devices.

Between my wife, my daughter and my granddaughters every windows box
they have touch has a non-removing instance of discourse installed. It
doesn't show in the system list of app to remove, and there is no uninstall
code in the discourse directories.

Hm... from the entire discussion I had the impression that this thing is
used via a web browser... Why then install any app for it?


Because in the Steam world of gaming, a significant portion of the
games use it for in game communication.

That said it seems that discourse is growing into monolithic piece
of software -- mailing list replacement, slack/teams/chat replacement, etc

Unless of course, there are multiple applications out there all doing
different things using the same name.
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Discourse -- Insufficient Trust Level

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On 10/21/22 07:25, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote:

Hi,

discourse is crap². I'm forwarding an original HTML email [1].

Regards,
Ralf


Agreed, discourse is an not much better than a surreptitiously installed
remote access tool.  It is invasive  and darn near impossible to remove
from window devices.

Between my wife, my daughter and my granddaughters every windows box
they have touch has a non-removing instance of discourse installed. It
doesn't show in the system list of app to remove, and there is no uninstall
code in the discourse directories.

Fortunately, for me all my computers are AIX, Linux or FreeBSD, which no one
on the list will touch.


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] weird bug: mismatch between the message list and preview pane

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On 10/7/22 16:08, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Fri, 2022-10-07 at 18:31 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:

IIUC you are asking for an option to rebuild the folder tree, hence
I
suspect you are using IMAP accounts. It's one of the reasons for me
to
stay with POP accounts, since those are completely free from such
maintenance work on almost all MUAs, while there isn't a day
without
similar IMAP account related questions on at least one MUA's
mailing
list.

I think that's tremendously unfair. I've used IMAP based accounts for
many, many years and never had any issues with them. They are
infinitely more workable when you use more than one client - I
currently have something like 10 clients on different OS's and lots
of
different MUAs and NEVER had any issues.

Agreed. I too have a number of IMAP-based accounts and several clients
for them on different devices and platforms, including Evolution. I
have never seen an issue such as the OP describes. My guess would be
that there is some sort of database corruption, but since I don't use
the Flatpak version I can't really comment further.

The flatpak version ( 3.46.0 by Flathub.org ) is currently so unstable
on Linux Mint 20.3 Una - that it is basically unusable.  I'm blessed if
I get 5 minutes of work before it segfaults and shuts down.  So far, I've
logged 6 different operations that crash it.
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Sudden rash of segfaults and freezes

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Linux: 5.15.0-48-generic #54~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 
GNU/Linux

Evolution: 3.46.0 (by Flathub.org))
VERSION="20.3 (Una)"
ID=linuxmint
ID_LIKE=ubuntu
PRETTY_NAME="Linux Mint 20.3"
VERSION_ID="20.3"
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=20.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=focal
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu Focal Fossa"


Mint notified that I had a bunch of updates pending, but no kernels.  
Most of what was
pending was ancillary tools.  The notable exception being lib webkit 
taking an incremental

bump from 2.36.7-0ubuntu0.20.04.1 to 2.36.8-0ubuntu0.20.04.1.

I'm currently experiencing segmentation faults and Evolution freezes ( 
the whole app --

requiring a flatpak kill  to escape from.

Anyone else seeing similar behaviors?



___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 08:10 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-09-16 at 10:58 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > ** (WebKitWebProcess:141): WARNING **: 10:19:30.227: Error: 9, This
> > file contains no playable streams.. Debug output:
> > ../gst/isomp4/qtdemux.c(489):
> > gst_qtdemux_post_no_playable_stream_error (): /GstPipeline:image-
> > decoder-0/GstDecodebin3:decodebin3-
> > 0/GstParseBin:parsebin0/GstQTDemux:qtdemux0:
> > no known streams found
> 
> Hi,
> it looks like there is something with the gstreamer code in the
> WebKitGTK, or, possibly better said, the message contains a
> video/audio
> stream, which cannot be played with the gstreamer. As your Evolution
> works fine, it can be closed, the problem is surely on the WebKitGTK
> side. A backtrace of the corresponding WebKitWebProcess process might
> help, but getting a backtrace from a Flatpak application is too
> complicated.

I did manage to isolate the message that causes the freeze,  from
external appearances
there is no audio or video.   However, I still need to dig into the
internals of the page.

Externally,  it appears to be a block of text,  big graphic, block of
text, big graphic, one
last block of text and a signature.


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 16:56 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 09:50 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > For example,  Linux Mint  native version is 3.36.5-ubuntu1 while
> > the
> > flatpk version is 3.44.4. There is bound to be a ton of changes in
> > both Evolution and WebKit between the versions.
> 
> Hi,
> you are right, it depends on the distro the user uses. There are
> distros with even older Evolution (but possibly close to the latest
> WebKitGTK) and distros which have the same or newer version than the
> Flathub.org version.
> 
> I suggested to use the version close to the Flathub.org version just
> for the reason you mentioned, to limit the set of the changes.
> Bye,
> Milan

Given that there is no master list of what distro is running what
version of anything, 
the task becomes a monumental time suck.   And time is the thing I have
the least of.

Using 3.44.4 as the base there are  10 distros that have that version
as the native, if
the data is accurate.


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 08:10 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-09-16 at 10:58 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > ** (WebKitWebProcess:141): WARNING **: 10:19:30.227: Error: 9, This
> > file contains no playable streams.. Debug output:
> > ../gst/isomp4/qtdemux.c(489):
> > gst_qtdemux_post_no_playable_stream_error (): /GstPipeline:image-
> > decoder-0/GstDecodebin3:decodebin3-
> > 0/GstParseBin:parsebin0/GstQTDemux:qtdemux0:
> > no known streams found
> 
> A viable option could be to test with the message on a host system
> Evolution (some latest version, like 3.44.x/3.46.0, with a new
> WebKitGTK), and, if reproducible, provide the message for testing to
> the WebKitGTK folks.

Would it really, given that the host based versions available in most
distros
are so far behind the flatpak version?

For example,  Linux Mint  native version is 3.36.5-ubuntu1 while the
flatpk version
is 3.44.4.  There is bound to be a ton of changes in both Evolution and
WebKit 
between the versions.


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Thu, 2022-09-15 at 07:42 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:26 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > However,  it is a permanent failure.  The pane will remain frozen
> > until I reboot my laptop, which is the pain point.
> 
> 
>    $ flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution
> 
> and let it freeze, maybe it'll print something useful there. If you
> can
> move between messages, then you might be able to close Evolution as
> well. When you click the close button multiple times, you'll be asked
> whether you want to close the app immediately or keep waiting.

Ok, it froze  and this was the output ... 

   Gtk-Message: 10:02:56.508: Failed to load module "xapp-gtk3-module"
   
   ** (WebKitWebProcess:141): WARNING **: 10:19:30.226: Error: 9, This
   file contains no playable streams.. Debug output:
   ../gst/isomp4/qtdemux.c(489): gst_qtdemux_post_no_playable_stream_error
   (): /GstPipeline:image-decoder-0/GstDecodebin3:decodebin3-
   0/GstParseBin:parsebin0/GstQTDemux:qtdemux0:
   no known streams found
   
   ** (WebKitWebProcess:141): WARNING **: 10:19:30.227: Error: 9, This
   file contains no playable streams.. Debug output:
   ../gst/isomp4/qtdemux.c(489): gst_qtdemux_post_no_playable_stream_error
   (): /GstPipeline:image-decoder-0/GstDecodebin3:decodebin3-
   0/GstParseBin:parsebin0/GstQTDemux:qtdemux0:
   no known streams found
   Gtk-Message: 10:20:57.987: Failed to load module "xapp-gtk3-module"
   Gtk-Message: 10:21:24.172: Failed to load module "xapp-gtk3-module"
   { me closing evolution }
   (evolution.bin:55): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 10:22:00.762: Your application
   did not unregister from D-Bus before destruction. Consider using
   g_application_run().
   


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Thu, 2022-09-15 at 07:42 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:26 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > However,  it is a permanent failure.  The pane will remain frozen
> > until I reboot my laptop, which is the pain point.
> 
> Hi,
> is the whole machine frozen, or only the Evolution, or only the
> preview
> panel itself? Is there a higher CPU usage when it freezes? Maybe it's
> doing something in the background, waiting long enough may recover
> it.

Machine isn't busy as everything is responding as expected.   Htop
shows  15-20% 
actvitity on all 4 cores, 20GB out of 24 GB of memory in use, and
typically < 10 GB 
out of 26 GB swap in use ( 24 GB linux swap space and 2GB  swap file ).

It has happened while listening to a live webinar with no obvious
effects... no chop,
no jitter,  and no frozen video.  I typically have VPN connections to
multple remote
devices which also show no sign of the machine being bogged down ( no
connection 
lockup, and no dropping of the connection ).

> 
> Try to run evolution from a terminal:
> 
>    $ flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution

I'll give it a try... and it probably won't happen again  :-)

> 
> and let it freeze, maybe it'll print something useful there. If you
> can
> move between messages, then you might be able to close Evolution as
> well. When you click the close button multiple times, you'll be asked
> whether you want to close the app immediately or keep waiting.
> 
> It should work fine, when you run Evolution again, no? If the whole
> app
> is frozen, then do:
> 
>    $ flatpak kill org.gnome.Evolution

Flatpak kill never works completely.  I always end up with multiple 
flatpak-bwrap and flatpak-dbus-pr files owned by init that even  kill -
9 
won't kill.   Every  2nd or 3rd  attempt to restart Evolution fails as
the starting
process "detects" an already running  evolution.


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Thu, 2022-09-15 at 11:39 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 17:13 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 22:49 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:26 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via
> > > evolution-
> > > list wrote:
> > > > Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) 
> > > > Linux Mint 20.3 Una
> > > > Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP
> > > > 
> > > > Forth time in the last week that my preview pane has frozen.  
> > > > 
> > > > I haven't been watching closely enough to see if it is always
> > > > the
> > > > same
> > > > email message or different 
> > > > email messages.
> > > > 
> > > > However,  it is a permanent failure.  The pane will remain
> > > > frozen
> > > > until
> > > > I reboot my laptop, which is
> > > > the pain point.
> > > > 
> > > > Anyone else seeing similar behavior ?
> > > 
> > > Never seen that. Perhaps mention your desktop and video driver.
> > 
> > Mate 1.26.0
> > Mesa Drivers 21.2.6
> > X11-server  7.7+8
> > Xorg   7.7+19Ubuntu14
> 
> I meant to include your video hardware (Intel, AMD, Nvidia ...) and
> which kernel driver it uses, e.g. the proprietary Nvidia or the open
> source version. However this is relevant mainly if the entire desktop
> freezes. It's not clear from your post if that's what's happening,
> but
> you did mention having to reboot to clear it.

*-display

description: VGA compatible controller
product: 8th Gen Core Processor Gaussian Mixture Model
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 2
bus info: pci@:00:02.0
version: 00
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pciexpress msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
resources: irq:125 memory:b000-b0ff memory:a000-afff
ioport:3000(size=64) memory:c-d

 
> 

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 22:49 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:26 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) 
> > Linux Mint 20.3 Una
> > Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP
> > 
> > Forth time in the last week that my preview pane has frozen.  
> > 
> > I haven't been watching closely enough to see if it is always the
> > same
> > email message or different 
> > email messages.
> > 
> > However,  it is a permanent failure.  The pane will remain frozen
> > until
> > I reboot my laptop, which is
> > the pain point.
> > 
> > Anyone else seeing similar behavior ?
> 
> Never seen that. Perhaps mention your desktop and video driver.

Mate 1.26.0
Mesa Drivers 21.2.6
X11-server  7.7+8
Xorg   7.7+19Ubuntu14


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) 
Linux Mint 20.3 Una
Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP

Forth time in the last week that my preview pane has frozen.  

I haven't been watching closely enough to see if it is always the same
email message or different 
email messages.

However,  it is a permanent failure.  The pane will remain frozen until
I reboot my laptop, which is
the pain point.

Anyone else seeing similar behavior ?

Thanks.
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Evolution or dbus issue ?

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 02:33 +0200, Ángel wrote:
> On 2022-09-13 at 16:57 -0500, Anonymous Japhering wrote:
> > Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) 
> > Linux Mint 20.3 Una
> > Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP
> > Default browser:  Brave
> > 
> > For the last couple of weeks, I have been seeing a new behavior
> > while
> > using Evolution.  Previous when I open
> > a link in Evolution, it would open in the default browser as a new
> > tab (browser is always open).
> > 
> > However, now I'm seeing  the link open is the already running
> > instance of Brave as well as a completely new
> > instance of Brave being started.
> > 
> > Anyone else seeing this?    Is this a new quirk in Evolution or a
> > bug
> > in dbus?
> > 
> > Thanks
> 
> When you open a new link, the program (evolution here) will -af ter
> sme
> indirections- launch a new copy of your browser (here, brave), which
> would detect it is already running and open the link on a new
> window/tab in the exiting window.
> 
> The flatpak sandbox may be confusing brave.

It is more like Flatpak is confused.   As both a new Brave window
opens, but the link is opened
in the existing Brave.  It is like  Flatpak  see a link click .. starts
a new instance of the default
browser before checking to see if one is already running and then
checks, detects the original
instance of the browser and had hands the link to the original
instance.

> 
> Your problem seems quite similar to 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-August/msg00107.html
> but in the opposite way.

I don't see it .   This is about Chrome not opening a mailto: link when
the default mail client is
set to Evolution

> Are you also using wayland?

No, I am not.

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.44.4 signature script not working

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 00:37 +0200, Ángel wrote:
> On 2022-09-13 at 20:45 +0200, Andre Truter wrote:
> > Hallo,
> > 
> > I installed evolution 3.44.4 using the Flatpak from Flathub.org on
> > OpenSUSE Leap 15.3. (The distro version is 3.34, but that does not
> > work with Google Calender and addressbook)
> > 
> > I exported by config from 3.34 and then imported it again in 3.44.
> > Everything seems to be working fine, except my signature script.
> > 
> > I ran evolution from the command line to see what errors are
> > printed
> > and it complains about the signature directory that does not exist,
> > but it does.
> (...)
> 
> 
> Hello André
> 
> Flatpaks do not have access to the full filesystem, they see a
> different filesystem (similar to a chroot or a docker container).
> Thus,
> evolution inside a flatpak does not have access to your script
> 
> I think that moving it into /home/andre/.var/app/org.gnome.Evolution/
> it will be visible to the flatpak app (you will need to adjust the
> paths)
> 
> You can use flatpak enter to enter into that mount namespace.
> 

Or you can install flatseal and configure any paths you want .


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Evolution or dbus issue ?

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) 
Linux Mint 20.3 Una
Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP
Default browser:  Brave

For the last couple of weeks, I have been seeing a new behavior while
using Evolution.  Previous when I open
a link in Evolution, it would open in the default browser as a new tab
(browser is always open).

However, now I'm seeing  the link open is the already running instance
of Brave as well as a completely new
instance of Brave being started.

Anyone else seeing this?    Is this a new quirk in Evolution or a bug
in dbus?

Thanks
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Annoyance: Intermittently messages refuse to categorize themselves as read

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Tue, 2022-08-23 at 22:36 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > I suppose this is an IMAP account you see it with.
> > 
> > Yes it is. It's my local Dovecot IMAP server. If I knew more about
> > IMAP, perhaps I
> > could go in and look at the message in Dovecot itself. One thing I
> > could do right
> > now is open my IMAP with Claws-Mail and see whether Claws Mail
> > considers it unread.
> > That would narrow the root cause scope to some degree. Thank you
> > for the suggestion.
> > 
> I seem to remember I used to have issues with my Dovecot server and
> messages being marked as unread seemingly randomly. I'm trying to
> remember how I fixed it - it was sometime ago!  Possibly make sure
> that
> the number of concurrent connections is set to 1 - it's in the
> "Receiving Options" bit of the account editor. 

I'm not using anything other than the providers email server ( Google
and O365 )  and I randomly
see the same behavior.  Although in my case, I occaisionally see it not
flip until I do it manually ( select 
all, mark  read,  and yes I've tried selecting just that message,
doesn't work ). 

Ratio is 40-50 to 1 ...  40-50 with long delay before flipping to every
1 that never flips on its own.

Evolution  3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) 
Linux Mint ( primarily )

DISTRIB_ID=LinuxMint
DISTRIB_RELEASE=20.3
DISTRIB_CODENAME=una
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Linux Mint 20.3 Una"
NAME="Linux Mint"
VERSION="20.3 (Una)"
ID=linuxmint
ID_LIKE=ubuntu
PRETTY_NAME="Linux Mint 20.3"
VERSION_ID="20.3"

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Flatpak version crashing

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Tue, 2022-08-09 at 07:22 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-08-08 at 17:27 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > Anyone recognize this crash?
> > 
> > [194740.804116] traps: evolution.bin[217892] general protection
> > fault
> > ip:7fcebd5a8ab1 sp:7ffe054fe788 error:0 in libgobject-
> > 2.0.so.0.7200.3[7fcebd57c000+35000]
> 
> Hi,
> no, it doesn't give a single idea what could go wrong. The only thing
> it shows is it crashed in the glib-related library, but nothing about
> where exactly or when it had been called.

Interesting.  The only thing I can add is that it happens when I go on
a long run of reading a preview
and deleting the messages.  

Cursor in the message list window,  message appears in preview, I click
the delete button.  The cursor
then move to the next message,  I repeat the process until Evolution
traps out.     

I have 8 accounts currently in Evolution ( 7 Google, 1 Office365).  The
account I am currently using runs about
300 messages per day.  If I don't keep on top of it.     The crash
most frequently happens on this account
when I'm speeding through it after missing a few days or have had an
unusually high volume day.


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Flatpak version crashing

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution   3.44.3 (by Flathub.org) 
LinuxMint  20.3
DISTRIB_ID=LinuxMint
DISTRIB_RELEASE=20.3
DISTRIB_CODENAME=una
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Linux Mint 20.3 Una"

Upstream release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=20.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=focal
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu Focal Fossa"

Linux  5.15.0-43-generic #46~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP   x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
GNU/Linux

Anyone recognize this crash?

[194740.804116] traps: evolution.bin[217892] general protection fault
ip:7fcebd5a8ab1 sp:7ffe054fe788 error:0 in libgobject-
2.0.so.0.7200.3[7fcebd57c000+35000]
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Something changed ...

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 12:51 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 11:32 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > I still don't think it is the right term to call "ancient" a
> > release
> > that is included in an OS distribution being currently supported
> > and
> > used by a large group of users...
> 
> Hi,
> yeah, it depends on the audience. The software is supported by the
> distribution, not by the upstream developers. That's a giant
> difference.
> 
> The 3.36.5 had been released on 2020-08-07. It's almost two years of
> development and bug fixes (and new bugs, eeks). Not only in the
> Evolution itself, but also in all its dependencies.

Mea culpa on that one.. too many machines. My primary machine shows the
completion issue was running the Linux Mint repository version when all
my other machines are running Flatpak and I didn't catch that
difference.  Guess that's what happens when you have 5 hardware
failures in 6 weeks.

Loaded the Flatpak version 3.44.2 (by Flathub.org) and completion issue
goes away.

Thanks for all the assistance.

Mike
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Something changed ...

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 15:47 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 14:39 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > In previous versions, I had address completion.  That is start
> > anemail, start typing the first few lettersof the email address and
> > Evolution would popup a completion list. For example, if I typed in
> > evo, I wouldbe shown  evolution-list@gnome.org and 
> > evolution-hack...@gnome.org aspossible completions. 
> 
> Have you verified that "Autocomplete with this address book" is
> checkedfor the addressbooks in question?

Yes, the button for the action is checked, and the addressbooks are all
are selected.
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Something changed ...

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution:  3.36.5-0ubuntu1 
Linux Mint 20.3
cat /etc/upstream-release/*
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=20.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=focal
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu Focal Fossa"

In previous versions, I had address completion.  That is start an
email, start typing the first few letters
of the email address and Evolution would popup a completion list.  For
example, if I typed in evo, I would
be shown  evolution-list@gnome.org and evolution-hack...@gnome.org as
possible completions. 

Since my last reinstall ( 5 computers and 5 hardware failures in 3
months ), I have not been offered
any potential completions. 

So what switch, plugin or other item did I fail to properly use ?

Thanks.

mike
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 00:35 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 23:39 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> > Dnia 24.06.2022 o godz. 22:28:30 Pete Biggs pisze:
> > > > I use mutt a lot and I've never seen mutt hog CPU when displaying local
> > > > mail, even with very big messages.
> 
> > 
> > You can always try it on your problematic messages...
> 
> *I* have no problematic messages. What I'm saying is that Evolution /
> WebKit doesn't use an excessive amount of CPU for me for any message
> unless there is a clear reason why it should. In my own little way I
> was trying to say I don't see the problem the OP is talking about.
> 
It is interesting that the is potentially rendering large messages. A long
those lines, I routinely receive messages that are bumping up against various
email size limits and never seem to have Evolution hogging all the available
resources.  

Where I do see it hog all the resources is compacting and cleaning up all the
various folders in use.  Currently, 7 email accounts ( 7 Google and 1 O365 ).

Wondering if something similar is going one and just not being noticed.
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Evolution in dark mode

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Fri, 2022-06-03 at 21:52 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-06-03 at 10:57 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1
> > DISTRIB_ID=LinuxMint
> > DISTRIB_RELEASE=20.3
> > 
> > Ok,  I'm stumped.   I run almost everything in  dark mode.  Until a
> > few days ago I never had any comments
> > or complaints about emails from Evolution.  Now, I am almost daily
> > getting 2-3 complaints that my dark
> > mode emails are unreadable.
> 
> "Dark mode emails" do not exist. I assume you explicitly set a dark
> background color for the HTML formatted emails that you compose, so
> that's also what the recipient will receive, if the recipient likes it
> or not (I do not like it).

Thanks for the tip, I found the setting in composer preferences, but I
don't remember 
setting it in the first place. 

Wonder if that is something that could be determined and set during the
flatpak install?

Thanks for the pointer.
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Evolution in dark mode

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1
DISTRIB_ID=LinuxMint
DISTRIB_RELEASE=20.3
DISTRIB_CODENAME=una
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Linux Mint 20.3 Una"
NAME="Linux Mint"
VERSION="20.3 (Una)"
ID=linuxmint
ID_LIKE=ubuntu
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=20.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=focal
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu Focal Fossa"
Linux 5.13.0-44-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP  x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
GNU/Linux

Ok,  I'm stumped.   I run almost everything in  dark mode.  Until a few
days ago I never had any comments
or complaints about emails from Evolution.  Now, I am almost daily
getting 2-3 complaints that my dark
mode emails are unreadable.

Is there some setting that I'm missing that tells the receiving end how
to display my emails  ( white text on 
dark gray background)?  If so, is there away to let me configuration,
but have it inverted for the receiver?

If not, how do I under dark mode, for my system to do composition in
 black text on white background?

Thanks.
Mikke


















/
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Why does Thunderbird work and Evolution fail?

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Thunderbird  78.13.0 (64-bit)
Evolution 3.40.5 (flatpak gite4cdc88)
Kernel: 5.4.0-84-generic x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: MATE 1.24.0
Distro: Linux Mint 20.2 Uma

So I currently have 8 Gmail/G-Suite accounts that use imap and oauth2.
As of my upgrade to LM 20.x, Evolution fails to authenticate into the gmail
environment.

Every time Evolution attempts to connect via imap, I get the login 
dialog, followed
by the request to allow/deny Evolution access to my account. I provide 
the required
information and nothing happens.  No list of emails, no previews, no 
indication of email being available.


At the next time interval or the next time I click Send/Receive, the 
same things happens.


The only clue seems to be that on the 2nd and following attempts the 
login popup says "Oauth2 secret not found".  I haven't cleared any 
caches intentionally, maybe accidentally.


Yet,  same set up, same machine Thunderbird is running flawlessly on the 
same 8 accounts.  Checking the Google account pages, shows for every 
account that both

Evolution and Thunderbird  are authorized.

So why does Evolution fail when Thunderbird succeeds?

What did I screw up?

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Fun with drop downs

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution :    3.40.4 (flatpak git8bc9e45) 
Kernel:            5.4.0-81-generic x86_64
Desktop:       MATE 1.22.2 
Distro:             Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia


I run 10 email accounts with  IMAP in Evolution.   2 personal accounts,  4
business accounts and
4 client management accounts.   To complicate things I also manage 4 calendars,
 1 primary and 3
secondary. 

Because of all of that,  I frequently get calender invites going to the wrong
email address.
Normally,  Evolution displays the invite with a drop down that lets me assign
which calendar
to add it to. 

The problem that I am now encountering is that the drop down doesn't always have
a scroll bar.

Any thoughts on how to work around not having the scroll bar?  

And yes, it is slightly more  difficult than just remembering a counting down N
places below the 
bottom of the window  as  the list in the window changes based on which account
received the invite.

The account having the invite is always at the top of the window, less the
actual calendar account name, 
followed by the list of all  the other accounts in an unknown order ( not
alphabetical nor in the 
Evolution order).

Thanks

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Searching for a plugin ..

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution:  3.40.4 (flatpak git8bc9e45) 
Linux: Kernel: 5.4.0-80-generic x86_64 bits: 64 
 Desktop: MATE 1.22.2
 Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia 

I was helping my father with his Thunderbird setup and stumbled into their
 attachment option.. 
it allow a user defined size of attachment to be thrown to a cloud storage
service and embeds
a link in the out going email.

Is there a similar function available for Evolution?

And yes, I checked in the plugin manager and didn't see anything resembling what
I'm looking for.

Thanks. 

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Unable to connect to connect anywhere

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution:  3.40.3 (flatpak git59a14d5)
Flatpak:  1.11.2
Kernel: 5.4.0-77-generic x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: MATE 1.22.2
Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia

So for just over a week, my build of Evolution has been unable to reach 
Google for
Oauth2 authentication.  It times out constantly.  Conversely, the native 
Thunderbird

(which is what I'm writing this with) works flawlessly.

When I attempt to connect or reconnect, I get the "Google account 
authentication request"  dialog,  on which the progress bar makes it 
about 1/8th of the way across the dialog before timing out. Another 
oddity is that I get a failure to connect for the 1 Office365 email 
address ( running standard id/password ) as well.


This set up was working until I rebuilt Evolution due to kernel updates.

Thoughts?  Suggestions ?


Thanks

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Not Receiving Mail

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

My apologies,  my read of the thread makes it seem like the behavior is
related.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 10:19 AM Andre Klapper via evolution-list <
evolution-list@gnome.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 2021-06-28 at 10:12 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > I just restarted my flatpak build of Evolution 3.40.3 (flatpak
> > git59a14d5) on Linux Mint 19.3.
> >
> > It comes up and throws a message about messages being unavailable in
> > offline mode.
> >
> > No indication that anything was still running.   Is there a flatpak
> > version of  the
> > evolution --force-shutdown ?
>
> Please do not hijack unrelated threads.
>
> Thanks,
> andre
>
> --
> Andre Klapper  |  ak...@gmx.net
> https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
>
>
> ___
> evolution-list mailing list
> evolution-list@gnome.org
> To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
>
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Not Receiving Mail

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

 flatpak build of Evolution 3.40.3 (flatpak git59a14d5) on Linux Mint 19.3.

A reboot of the system and Evolution still comes up as if everything is in
offline mode, however,  I now
get a message that I'm disconnected with an offer to reconnect.
 Attempting to reconnect fails with
a timeout waiting on Google.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 10:12 AM Anonymous Japhering 
wrote:

> I just restarted my flatpak build of Evolution 3.40.3 (flatpak git59a14d5)
> on Linux Mint 19.3.
>
> It comes up and throws a message about messages being unavailable in
> offline mode.
>
> No indication that anything was still running.   Is there a flatpak
> version of  the
> evolution --force-shutdown ?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 1:38 AM Milan Crha via evolution-list <
> evolution-list@gnome.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 2021-06-27 at 13:57 -0600, Val Kartchner via evolution-list
>> wrote:
>> > Tuesday it stopped working.  It wasn't working through Saturday when
>> > I shut down my system.  Sunday morning it started working again.  So
>> > no assistance is needed any more.
>>
>> Hi,
>> I guess there happened something with the libsecret/gnome-keyring-
>> daemon. In case it'll happen again, try to stop all evolution
>> processes, thus their next start will reconnect to the other services
>> it needs. You can restart the processes with:
>>
>>$ evolution --force-shutdown
>>
>> Running that with Flatpak is more tricky, but you have a native version
>> installed, thus you are fine.
>> Bye,
>> Milan
>>
>> ___
>> evolution-list mailing list
>> evolution-list@gnome.org
>> To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
>>
>
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Not Receiving Mail

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

I just restarted my flatpak build of Evolution 3.40.3 (flatpak git59a14d5)
on Linux Mint 19.3.

It comes up and throws a message about messages being unavailable in
offline mode.

No indication that anything was still running.   Is there a flatpak version
of  the
evolution --force-shutdown ?

Thanks

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 1:38 AM Milan Crha via evolution-list <
evolution-list@gnome.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 2021-06-27 at 13:57 -0600, Val Kartchner via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > Tuesday it stopped working.  It wasn't working through Saturday when
> > I shut down my system.  Sunday morning it started working again.  So
> > no assistance is needed any more.
>
> Hi,
> I guess there happened something with the libsecret/gnome-keyring-
> daemon. In case it'll happen again, try to stop all evolution
> processes, thus their next start will reconnect to the other services
> it needs. You can restart the processes with:
>
>$ evolution --force-shutdown
>
> Running that with Flatpak is more tricky, but you have a native version
> installed, thus you are fine.
> Bye,
> Milan
>
> ___
> evolution-list mailing list
> evolution-list@gnome.org
> To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
>
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Problems forwarding

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

I'll make a note to submit one the next time  I get a message from an iPhone.  
Unfortunately,
I don't deal with that many people using iPhones, so it might be a while.

Mike
On Tue, 2021-06-15 at 06:45 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-06-14 at 14:43 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > I frequently see similar failures when I try to respond to emails
> > originating from Apple iPhones,  it is as if Apple is not 
> > properly demarking the end of message.
> 
> Hi,
> would it be possible to provide a test message, without any private
> information, please? Ideally in a new bug report at:
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/new
> 
> Bye,
> Milan
> 
> 
> ___
> evolution-list mailing list
> evolution-list@gnome.org
> To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Problems forwarding

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2021-06-14 at 12:36 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-06-14 at 08:37 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:
> > On Sun, 2021-06-13 at 15:08 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > > When I try to forward the attached message (Bench.mbox), the message
> > > that evolution proposes for editing shows only the part of the
> > > original message up to the line ending "Paul Widess wrote:" instead
> > > of instead of showing the entire message. 
> > 
> > HTML composer or plain text composer?
> > Forward as quoted? Forward as inline?
> HTML composer.  Reply as quoted.  Forward as inline.  (Note the same problem
> happens with edit as original message.)
> Sorry for the ambiguity.

I frequently see similar failures when I try to respond to emails originating
from Apple iPhones,  it is as if Apple is not 
properly demarking the end of message.

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Option to invert selection ?

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Currently running the flatpak version of Evolution:

Evolution:   3.40.3 (flatpak git8fe6b91) 
Kernel: 5.4.0-74-generic x86_64 
bits: 64 
Desktop: MATE 1.22.2 
   Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia

I tend to work with most applications in their version of dark mode, which I
haven't found a dark mode for Evolution.

So frequently,  I end up pasting from other applications into an email  where
the past comes in with white text on a black background.   Normally,  I don't
need that much emphasis so I end up highlighting and flipping foreground
and background.  

Is there any short cut to highlight and invert the fore/background colors in
a single operation, rather than the current 4 step process?

Thanks

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] What triggers asking for set up

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution:   3.40.2 (flatpak git686b926) 
Flatpak:        1.11.1
Kernel: 5.4.0-73-generic x86_64 bits: 64 
Desktop: MATE 1.22.2 
Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia 

Ok,  I'm stupid, but I rebuild my flatpak instance every time there is a kernel
update using the
"Receiving updates"  section of https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Flatpak

Lately,  about every 3rd kernel update when I bring up the rebuilt Evolution,
 it comes up asking
me to enter all my accounts again ( 8 currently).  So what triggers that ask if
I'm only doing
updates?
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] calendar appt issue

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Tue, 2021-05-11 at 08:01 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-05-10 at 18:41 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > Unable to send item to calendar “mike@*.com :
> > mike@*.com”. Cannot receive calendar objects: Unsupported
> > method
> 
> Hi,
> see the message source (Ctrl+U), there's a text/calendar part, which
> contains the component. It can be base64 encoded, thus possibly decode
> it with a command line `base64 -d`. It might look like:
> 
>    BEGIN:VCALENDAR
>    ...
>    METHOD:xxx
>    ...
>    BEGIN:VEVENT
>    ...
>    END:VEVENT
>    END:VCALENDAR
> 
> It's the 'METHOD' (in the case above the "xxx"), which the destination
> calendar does not understand.

This is what I see --

   BEGIN:VCALENDAR
   METHOD:REPLY
   PRODID:Microsoft Exchange Server 2010
   VERSION:2.0
   

One would think that reply would be safe :-/


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] calendar appt issue

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution:   3.40.2 (flatpak gitdc3787d) 
Kernel: 5.4.0-72-generic x86_64 bits: 64 
Desktop: MATE 1.22.2 
Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia
Google G-Suite Calendar

Using Calendly.com  to schedule appointments.  Client rescheduled through
Calendly and I see this message after
I click the accept button to take the change.

Unable to send item to calendar “mike@*.com :
mike@*.com”. Cannot receive calendar objects: Unsupported method


Any thoughts,  it used to work  
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Composer Preference change ?

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Sun, 2021-05-09 at 22:17 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Digging around in Composer preferences,  I'm not finding an option to
> > set an automatic BCC. 
> > Did that get dropped or moved to somewhere not as intuitively obvious
> > as the prior location?
> > 
> It's under Preferences -> Mail Account -> (select account) -> Edit ->
> Composing Messages
> 
> P.

Thanks... 


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Composer Preference change ?

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution   3.40.2 (flatpak gitdc3787d) 
Kernel: 5.4.0-72-generic x86_64 bits: 64 
Desktop: MATE 1.22.2 
Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia 

Until this last update to Evolution,  I was able to set a default BCC for
outbound emails on
individual accounts. 

I updated  May 8, and when Evolution restarted,  all 6 of my email accounts were
gone.  Evolution 
came up as if it were a clean install on a new system.

Recreated all the accounts,  discovered that Evolution still had all my
signatures and that I no longer
got an automatic BCC for the account in question.

Digging around in Composer preferences,  I'm not finding an option to set an
automatic BCC. 
Did that get dropped or moved to somewhere not as intuitively obvious as the
prior location?

Thanks.
 Mike
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Certificate failures.. apologies if I've asked before

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Kernel: 5.4.0-72-generic x86_64 bits: 64 
Desktop: MATE 1.22.2 
Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia 
Evolution: 3.40.1 (flatpak gitc7adee9) 

With the move up to 3.40.1 ,  I seem to be seeing significantly more  of the
following error: 

   GLib-Net:ERROR:../tls/base/gtlsconnection-
   base.c:1394:g_tls_connection_base_handshake_thread_verify_certificate: 
assertion
   failed: (priv->handshake_context)
   Bail out! GLib-Net:ERROR:../tls/base/gtlsconnection-
   base.c:1394:g_tls_connection_base_handshake_thread_verify_certificate: 
assertion
   failed: (priv->handshake_context)
   /app/bin/evolution: line 33:44 Aborted (core dumped)
   /app/bin/evolution.bin "$@"
   
Everything is fully patched. It seems to happen most frequently when I go on a
deletion binge, deleting a series of messages based on what I see in the preview
pane ( I rarely open messages in to a new window ).  Size of series can be
anything from 3 to 30+.

I've had it happen on free gmail accounts, G-suite accounts and Office365
accounts. Current mix is  2, 3, and 1 respectively.

No messages on the console. Nothing to indicate a network blip (I've almost
always have 3-5 vpns open to different systems.

Thoughts?

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Weird delay in preview..

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2021-04-12 at 17:00 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> 
> Evolution as:
> 
>    $ WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution
> 
> just make sure there is no evolution process running from the /app
> prefix (by running: ps ax | grep evolution), please? I do not know
> whether it'll have any impact.

Restarted Evolution about 2.5 hours ago as per the above instructions.  
Frequency of the preview window not
rendering until moused over is down significantly, but not gone completely.

Only one message on the console:


(evolution.bin:44): camel-imapx-provider-WARNING **: 12:12:35.199:
camel_imapx_server_process_command_sync: 
[D] 0x55c25a6a2390: Starting command 0x7fc3f007aaa0 (NOOP) while still
processing 0x55c258a37400 (NOOP)

which reads like a transient issue talking place with one of the IMAP servers.  
I've seen more than one fail to render
instance, which makes me think this is a red herring.

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Weird delay in preview..

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2021-04-12 at 10:23 -0500, Matt Connell wrote:
> Unrelated to the OP's question, and I have no issues to report, but
> this prompted a question.
> 
> On Mon, 2021-04-12 at 17:00 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> > the preview panel is WebKitGTK. Evolution itself doesn't render
> > anything there.
> 
> Is this the case even in plain-text view?  That is to say, is the text
> version also rendered via webkit?

It doesn't matter.   I get mail both ways..written as flat ascii (lots of
contacts still using pine & mutt )
and as HTML ( no thanks to Office365 ).


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Weird delay in preview..

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution 3.40.1 (flatpak git668023c) 
System: 
   Kernel: 5.4.0-70-generic x86_64 bits: 64
   Desktop: MATE 1.22.2
   Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia
   
recently did the update and started seeing that frequently the preview pane does
not render until mouse is in the preview pane. 

So if I'm click on specific messages in the message list, the preview pain stays
blank until I move the mouse over it.

Conversely, if I select a message in the list pane, move mouse to the preview
pane and then arrow key for the next message, it renders immediately.  So it is
definitely something with the position of the mouse relative to the preview
pane.

System is basically idle,  plenty of memory available (not stepping off memory
to swap space), plenty of available bandwidth ( as of the beginning of this
message is was getting 870Mbps from the Google servers, 750Mbps from Office365).

In Evolution, I'm currently running 2 - Gmail,  3 - G-Suite, and 1 - Office 365
accounts.  

Any thoughts on how best to isolate?

Thanks

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Mail arrival notifications -- turning off sound

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Thu, 2021-04-08 at 00:09 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-04-07 at 22:29 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2021-04-07 at 15:46 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> > list wrote:
> > > For years, I've paid attention to the popup from Evolution which give
> > > a
> > > synopsis
> > > of the incoming message.  What
> > > I wasn't aware of,  was the accompanying audio notification.   
> > > 
> > > So the question is ... How does one turn off the audio notification
> > > and
> > > leave
> > > the visual notification?   
> > 
> > Evolution doesn't have a notification widget. I think what you are
> > seeing (and hearing) isn't coming from Evolution but from Gnome. Look
> > for 'notification' under Evo's Help. I don't use Gnome so I'm guessing
> > here.
> > 
> 
> It's in gnome-control-settings under notifications. From there you can
> control whether sound is used for evolution notifications.
> 
> There's also "Mail Notification" under Plug-in Manager. From there you
> can open the Open Gnome Notifications settings as well, which gets you
> to the same place as above.
> 
> Finally there are dconf settings for it as well (which I presume is
> what the above manipulates). Try something like
> 
>  dconf write /org/gnome/evolution/plugin/mail-notification/notify-sound-
> enabled false

Thanks for providing all the details needed for tracking down and eliminating
the audio notification.



___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Mail arrival notifications -- turning off sound

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution  3.40.1 (flatpak git5df1718) 
Linux Mint  19.3
Linux  5.4.0-70-generic #78~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP  x86_64

I had a situation today where I had to turn the sound on for my primary
computer.   Normally I run
with all sounds muted at hardware level.

For years, I've paid attention to the popup from Evolution which give a synopsis
of the incoming message.  What
I wasn't aware of,  was the accompanying audio notification.   

So the question is ... How does one turn off the audio notification and leave
the visual notification?   

I don't see any related to either in the documentation, although I  don't really
know what I should be looking for.

Thanks.
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Hotmail, Gmail token refresh

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Fri, 2021-04-02 at 21:26 +0200, Stephane Passignat via evolution-list wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> After some days using Evolution on Linux Mint, there is an
> authentication/authorization issue preventing to receive or send email.
> 
> 
> 
> The work around seems to restart the computer.
> 
> Are there any settings which can help Evolution or Linux Mint to refresh those
> tokens (OAuth2 I guess).

For me,  Linux Mint 19 and 20, running  3.40.1 (flatpak git9913368),  there is a
reconnect button on the
right side of the message.   Clicking the button, results and a login screen for
said account.   Follow the
prompts for uname and password ..  then the last step is to scroll down on the
last popup and click to 
allow Evolution access to gmail.   that last piece is what trips most folks up
as the button to allow requires
scrolling down on most screens. 

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Replies not including all text

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Tue, 2021-03-16 at 17:00 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-03-16 at 11:07 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > It looks like something is getting confused by the nested
> > blockquotes.
> 
> Hi,
> that's true. I do not know what misbehaves here, but I'm able to
> reproduce it too, when I have unchecked Edit->Preferences->Composer
> Preferences->Wrap quoted text in replies. As a workaround, check that
> option and things will work as they should. Or they do for me at least.
> 
> I've not been able to reproduce it earlier, because I've it set here.

Per chance is the original message or any others in the chain coming from  the
mail
client on a recent Apple iPhone?

I have one person who routinely sends or replies to my emails from his iPhone
using
the native email client.   When I attempt to reply play to such a message.. his
message
part is skipped and the quote starts with my message.

His message/response  seems to be missing the  --   which denotes the end of the
body

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Issues with iPhone emails

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Sat, 2021-02-13 at 18:28 +0100, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:
> On Sat, 2021-02-13 at 11:04 -0600, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > I have a client that does all his email from his iPhone.   Every time
> > I go to reply to one of his emails
> > the composer opens with none of the message quoted .. it literally
> > looks just like the original
> > message from client. 
> > 
> > Anyone else seeing something similar?
> 
> Hard to say without an (obfuscated) test case that someone else could
> import into Evolution to try to reproduce, plus without knowing some
> settings in your client (HTML or Plain Text format, signature, etc).

Client not being much help.   He doesn't know what version iOS is running on his
iPhone and states
the he just uses the default  email client.   Image, emails and cell numbers
removed.

Notice that his iPhone email seems to not  put the -- at the end before any
signature.



___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Cannot connect to Evolution with Google

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2021-02-15 at 17:33 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-02-15 at 12:21 -0500, Daniel Caron via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > I just did and all suddenly it worked like a charm. Thanks for the
> > hints.
> > The version was coming from my KDE Depot and obviously was out dated.
> 
> No, quite the opposite.  The flatpack version is more recent, but
> flatpack apps run in their own sandpit so sometimes their interaction
> with other parts of the environment can be a bit hit and miss. 

I'm running the flatpak version  --  3.38.5 (flatpak git900a819)
and have no issues  with Gmail/G-Suite  aside from Google's security protocols.
 I run a main install at my desk and
a secondary install on my traveling gear.  Even though I'm running the same
Linux version, at the same kernel/patch
level with OAuth2 -- Google always insists on blocking which ever machine I
switching to until I come in
via webmail to say "Yes, it was me"

The issues I have with Flatpak are things requiring interaction with the host
system .. sending attachments, or
using the "open with default application" for incoming attachments.    On the
odd version where open with
works,  it usually means that "Save as" doesn't 
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Issues with iPhone emails

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Linux Mint   5.4.0-65-generic SMP
Evolution  3.38.4 (flatpak gita8629ac) 
Flatpak   1.10.1

I have a client that does all his email from his iPhone.   Every time I go to
reply to one of his emails
the composer opens with none of the message quoted .. it literally looks just
like the original
message from client. 

Anyone else seeing something similar?  iPhone mail client issue,  Evolution
issue or a problem with
my flatpak build of Evolution ?

Mike
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Would this have side effects ?

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution:  3.38.4 (flatpak gita8629ac)

Mgmt is mandating that I interface with the corporate CRM software, which if you
are not using a browser  for
email is a BCC to a specific email address.

That means you either have to  remember to add the BCC ( and remember how you
saved it) , or set it in the 
composer options for every email.   Neither option by itself is very appealing
as it means you either miss a 
bunch  of outbound emails or you cram a lot of CRAP into the CRM.

Since I'm using IMAP, would it create any, heretofore unseen side effects to
create 2 accounts in Evolution pointing
to the same mail server.   One account would have the BCC ( obviously, for using
with clients) and the other one 
would not and be used to handle the other 80% of my email.

Thoughts, problems, or other gotchas?

Mike
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Negative searches

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution  3.38.4 (flatpak git5dcefb2)

I'm currently being overrun by emails from on particular source, which
unfortunately I need to read every single
one.

I know I can set a rule to peel all of then off into a separate folder, but that
negates the value of using Imap as the
folder only exists in Evolution.  Additionally,  it loses me some of the context
of what came in with any particular email.

So the question is ... can one do a negative search on an inbox?    Something
like  !  or  -, 
these two variants return a completely empty response ( even though the inbox
has  about 10,000 emails of which currently
about 2,500 I'd like to exclude.

Thakns
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Evolution or Flatpak issue

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Fri, 2020-12-18 at 22:38 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-12-18 at 12:40 -0600, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > Sorry,   can't pull the version of Evolution at the moment.
> 
> Help->About.

Yes, I know, but at the time  flatpak wouldn't restart Evolution without a
reboot.

Posted through Gmail web interface .. I'm just spinning with to many things
requiring attention to save off the 
error message, reboot and then remember to write the message.  

For the record:

Evolution 3.38.3 (flatpak gitabb3636) 
Flatpak 1.9.2


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Evolution or Flatpak issue

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Sorry,   can't pull the version of Evolution at the moment.

Linux Mint 19.3
Flatpack 1.9.2

I'm consistently getting the following crash when rapidly deleting emails
from a G-Suite or Gmail
account ( haven't seen it with Office365, yet ).

Imap access for all Google accounts.

GLib-Net:ERROR:../tls/base/gtlsconnection-base.c:1394:g_tls_connection_base_handshake_thread_verify_certificate:
assertion failed: (priv->handshake_context)
Bail out!
GLib-Net:ERROR:../tls/base/gtlsconnection-base.c:1394:g_tls_connection_base_handshake_thread_verify_certificate:
assertion failed: (priv->handshake_context)
/app/bin/evolution: line 33:48 Aborted (core dumped)
/app/bin/evolution.bin "$@"

Any thoughts on how to debug or which list to submit it to ?

Mike
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Evolution discussion (Ubuntu Community)

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 21:21 +, Pete Biggs wrote:


Out of interest (and it's not meant in a derogatory way), but do people
really think that posting things in an OS specific forum, like Ubuntu
Discourse or Ask Fedora, magically gets back to developers or will
elicit answers from communities such as this?


Yes, people think all computers are connected to the internet and there for
everything
gets automatically routed to the right place ... email on steroids :-(

And yes, I've had clients tell me that ...

Mike
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Evolution, Imap, Google and half a dozen devices

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution  3.38.3 (flatpak gitabb3636)

I run the aforementioned version of  Evolution on a half dozen  laptops and
desktops at various locations
around the world.   Access is by imap using OAuth2.

My free Gmail account and my paid for G-Suite account always pop  the "blocked
attempted access from 
unsecure app"  about every third time I start Evolution.

It doesn't matter, if it is the same computer 3 times or 3 different computers
(even when 3 on the same network)
I'll get that message.   And if I don't log into the Google account in question
and mark it as me doing the action
the account gets locked out until I go deal with each of the notices.

Has anyone figured out  how to prevent this behavior by Google?   whitelisting
MAC addresses maybe or some
special token from Google?   Anything ?

Thanks
Mike
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Order by Read Status ?

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Sun, 2020-12-06 at 17:18 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2020-12-06 at 09:42 -0600, Anonymous Japhering wrote:
> > Is there a way to get evolution to display  all unread emails first
> 
> Hi,
> 
> in the "Message list" [ https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/intro-
> main-window.html.en ]
> sort by "Status", which depending to the used icon theme likely has got
> the icon of an opened or closed envelope or arrows. Click it one or two
> times to chose between "Descending" or "Ascending". You also could use
> the "Search bar"'s "Show" selection box to chose between "All messages",
> "Unread messages", "Read messages" etc. to sort on demand.
> 
> If the column "Status" should be missing in the column bar, left click
> the column bar and add "Status", to any position you like.

That was the piece that I was missing, when I went in initially, there was no
"Status" in the sort by list. It didn't appear until the third or fourth time 
in.

Thanks, Ralf and POC

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Order by Read Status ?

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Linux Mint 19.3
Evolution  3.38.3 (flatpak git85cfa12)

Every so often,  I get hit with a barrage of emails the leaves me with some
large number of unread emails scattered
through my emails. 

Is there a way to get evolution to display  all unread emails first, followed by
the read emails  (be even better if the
respective lists were then ordered by date )?

Thanks..
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Evolution Crash

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution 3.38.3 (flatpak git7758dc3) 
Flatpak 1.9.2
DISTRIB_ID=LinuxMint
DISTRIB_RELEASE=19.3
DISTRIB_CODENAME=tricia
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia"
Linux 5.4.0-54-generic #60~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP

Going through one of my mail boxes ( sorry, was only paying half attention )
deleting emails that had been read through web interfaces ( Evolution/Flatpak
crashed and wouldn't restart due to hung, unkillable Flatpak processes).

This is the message that appears in the console terminal:

   GLib-Net:ERROR:../tls/base/gtlsconnection-
   base.c:1394:g_tls_connection_base_handshake_thread_verify_certificate:
   assertion failed: (priv->handshake_context)
   Bail out! GLib-Net:ERROR:../tls/base/gtlsconnection-
   base.c:1394:g_tls_connection_base_handshake_thread_verify_certificate:
   assertion failed: (priv->handshake_context)
   
To me this looks like a simple handshake failure, but not a reason for Evolution
to completely crash.  Am I missing something ?

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Re +1 : how insert a .gif into a mail

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2020-11-16 at 15:07 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Sun, 2020-11-15 at 20:41 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > > IMO it's important to point out that inserting, attaching an image
> > > shouldn't fail. Sending large images usually fails, because email
> > > servers usually limit the size of emails they will accept.
> > > It's a different kettle of fish.
> > Am I mistake? Is it already impossible to insert or attach 109.0 MB?
> > If so why? Is the size per se limited via RFC?
> 
> I would expect it to be possible to ATTACH a 109MB document - in fact
> I'm pretty sure I've done it.
> 
> I would not expect it to work, in any mail client anywhere, to INSERT a
> 109MB image/document.  The body of an e-mail is a Document-Object-Model 
> kind of thing, and I just wouldn't expect any message edit to survive
> such a traumatic event.

Much less the ISP enforced limits on the maximum size of both an email and
an attachment.  I can't remember the last time I sent email or email with
attachment that was larger than 10MB as most of the services I operate through
have a 10MB total size limit.

One has to wonder if all the cloud file services (dropbox, box, onecloud, google
drive, etc) came about because of ever shrinking limits on the total size of an
email message.

Mike


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Shutdown, restart failure

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2020-11-09 at 16:38 +, Douglas Summers via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-11-09 at 10:33 -0600, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > Evolution 3.38.2 (flatpak gite1b0310)
> > 
> > Distributor ID: LinuxMint
> > Description: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia
> > Release: 19.3
> > Codename: tricia
> > 
> > Linux  5.4.0-52-generic #57~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP 
> > 
> > At the present time,  if Evolution stops for any reason ( I quit out
> > or it crashes), when it restarts it does NOT see any
> > configured accounts ( which is a pain as have 5 accounts currently
> > configured).
> > 
> > If I manually add the accounts back in.. everything works until the
> > next exit.  This includes configured signatures being
> > available to assign to accounts ( no need to recreate ).
> > 
> > At the point that Evolution starts up,  the console does NOT show any
> > errors.
> > 
> > Give that I've been running Evolution on the same machine under the
> > same id  for many years,  I'm wondering if I've
> > got some accumulated garbage that is breaking things ..  open to any
> > other ideas as well.
> > 
> > Thanks. 
> 
> Try running 'flatpak kill org.gnome.Evolution' before restarting
> Evolution, just to make sure all of its processes are closed.

Typically, do 

flatpak ps
flatpak kill org.gnome.Evolution
flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution 

With either  a pgrep -l evoltution of a   ps -aef | egrep 'evolution|flatpak" 
in between.

Just as another data point, I did an Evolution backup which closes and restarts
Evolution.  Interesting thing happened, Evolution restarted with all accounts 
intact.  So what is the difference between Evolution doing a restart and my
doing  File->Quit  followed by a flatpak shutown and restart ?


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Shutdown, restart failure

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution 3.38.2 (flatpak gite1b0310)

Distributor ID: LinuxMint
Description: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia
Release: 19.3
Codename: tricia

Linux  5.4.0-52-generic #57~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP 

At the present time,  if Evolution stops for any reason ( I quit out or it
crashes), when it restarts it does NOT see any
configured accounts ( which is a pain as have 5 accounts currently configured).

If I manually add the accounts back in.. everything works until the next exit.
 This includes configured signatures being
available to assign to accounts ( no need to recreate ).

At the point that Evolution starts up,  the console does NOT show any errors.

Give that I've been running Evolution on the same machine under the same id  for
many years,  I'm wondering if I've
got some accumulated garbage that is breaking things ..  open to any other ideas
as well.

Thanks. 
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Email look ups ..

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2020-11-04 at 08:32 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-11-03 at 12:01 -0600, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > So it looks like my hosting company is not setup to allow
> > autoconfiguration of email clients .. ugh. 
> 
> Hi,
> it should not be a problem on its own, many do not have it. The thing
> is that you should not get long delays during the autoconfig, as long
> as the server responds in a timely way.

That's just it,  Evolution NEVER comes back. It will sit there waiting for a
response until I tell it to "skip lookup". I was trying last night on my
travel laptop, I started the lookup and ended up getting a customer call 
which took an hour.  Came back to the laptop and it was still trying to
lookup the config.

Mike



___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Email look ups ..

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2020-11-02 at 14:06 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-10-30 at 09:41 -0500, Japhering Anonymous via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > At this point, Evolution starts the lookup process, as indicated by a
> > dialog screen with the Gnome foot icon with the wiggling toes
> 
> 
> Or, you can verify my hypothesis when you run these commands:
> 
>    $ wget
> https://autoconfig.DOMAIN/mail/config-v1.1.xml\?emailaddress=EVOLUTIONUSER%40DOMAIN\=MD5

--2020-11-03 11:52:36--
https://autoconfig./mail/config-v1.1.xml?emailaddress==MD5
Resolving autoconfig. (autoconfig.)... failed: Name or service
not known.
wget: unable to resolve host address ‘autoconfig.’


>    $ wget
> http://autoconfig.DOMAIN/mail/config-v1.1.xml\?emailaddress=EVOLUTIONUSER%40DOMAIN\=MD5

--2020-11-03 11:52:36--
  
https://autoconfig./mail/config-v1.1.xml?emailaddress==MD5
Resolving autoconfig. (autoconfig.)... failed: Name or service
not known.
wget: unable to resolve host address ‘autoconfig.’

>    $
> wget 
> https://DOMAIN/.well-known/autoconfig/mail/config-v1.1.xml\?emailaddress=EVOLUTIONUSER%40DOMAIN\=MD5

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden

>    $ wget
> http://DOMAIN/.well-known/autoconfig/mail/config-v1.1.xml\?emailaddress=EVOLUTIONUSER%40DOMAIN\=MD5

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden

So it looks like my hosting company is not setup to allow autoconfiguration of
email clients .. ugh. 

Thanks for the testing links.

Mike
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Email look ups ..

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Distributor ID: LinuxMint
Description: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia
Release: 19.3
Codename: tricia
Evolution:   3.38.2 (flatpak gitcf56856)

I run 4 different emails through Evolution.  2 gmail,  1 G-suite and 1
Office 365.  Of the 4, G-Suite is the only one that will not auto configure.

Attempting to auto config just results in an infinite hang.

Any thoughts?
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Evolution issue or Flatpak issue

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

I run  the flatpak version of Evolution, only because Linux Mint native is
so far behind and has soo many issues for me.

Linux Mint
Distributor ID: LinuxMint
Description: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia
Release: 19.3
Codename: tricia
Linux  5.4.0-52-generic #57~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP
Flatpak 1.8.2
Evolution  3.38.2 (flatpak gitcf56856)

Evolution crashed ( it happens every so often).  So I killed the flatpak
remnants and rebuilt the
the environment, as I do everytime it crashes.

This time, however,  when restarting I get 4 sets of the error message
below:

(evolution-source-registry:14): e-backend-WARNING **: 16:31:13.557: Failed
to move
'/home/mhm/.var/app/org.gnome.Evolution/cache/evolution/mail/fd637cd8a03e065bf4072184cc79851443947c26':
Error moving file
/home/mhm/.var/app/org.gnome.Evolution/cache/evolution/mail/fd637cd8a03e065bf4072184cc79851443947c26:
File exists

All varying by the file name.   4 is significant as that is the number of
different email addresses I pickup,  and which when evolution starts,  it
does so by asking me  configure/import  mail accounts.

Just to verify,  to me it looks like the message is originating from
Evolution and not Flatpak, am I correct?

Any idea if  removing the 4 files in question would fix, at least for the
time being,  the issue or make it worse ?

Thanks.
Mike
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Evolution Flatpak hanging

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

DISTRIB_ID=LinuxMint
DISTRIB_RELEASE=19.3
DISTRIB_CODENAME=tricia
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia"
NAME="Linux Mint"
VERSION="19.3 (Tricia)"
UBUNTU_CODENAME=bionic

I would pull the Evolution flatpak version number but Evolution is so
totally hung at the moment
that I can't get to the version information without rebooting my system

I built the current version stable version yesterday ( json file attached
if that helps ).

However, today any time I see this message

(evolution-addressbook-factory:25): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 15:28:02.223:
Error calling GetManagedObjects() when name owner :1.74 for name
org.gnome.Evolution.org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources5 came back:
Timeout was reached

appear in the window where I started evolution, it hangs and hangs hard.

sudo  flatpak ps  shows nothing running

pgrep -l evolution shows

4492 evolution
4507 evolution-sourc
4517 evolution-addre
4532 evolution-calen
4538 evolution.bin
4586 evolution-alarm

I can kill everything but the evolution.bin  process.

I notice this most when trying to  send an email with an attachment, but
because I run Evolution on a different virtual desktop,   So the error
message might be a red herring.

Any thoughts?

Off to reboot and get the the version number.

Mike


org.gnome.Evolution-stable.json
Description: application/json
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Strange shadow on group reply

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Today as I was doing a reply-all ( fully intentional ), when the compose
window came up there
was an interesting shadow overlay of the signature area, something I've
never seen before. The only
thing different about the email being replied to, was the fact that it
contained a link to a Google drive
location.

Attached is a partial screen grab to show the shadow. Is this a "feature",
that I've just never tripped across
or is something else going on?

Thanks.
Mike

Evolution 3.36.2 (flatpak gitb091e19)
LinuxMint 19.3
DISTRIB_ID=LinuxMint
DISTRIB_RELEASE=19.3
DISTRIB_CODENAME=tricia
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia"
NAME="Linux Mint"
VERSION="19.3 (Tricia)"
ID=linuxmint
ID_LIKE=ubuntu
PRETTY_NAME="Linux Mint 19.3"
VERSION_ID="19.3"
Upstream Release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=18.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=bionic
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 18.04 LTS"
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Evolution 3.34.2 (flatpak git39b16e3) and OAuth2 failure

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

Linux Mint 19.2
Linux 4.15.0-65-generic #74-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 17 17:06:04 UTC 2019 x86_64
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Primary laptop has the same configuration and authenticates successfully
via Oauth2 to 2 gmail accounts and 1 G-Suite account

On my travel laptop, flatpak builds cleanly, but when I attempt to
authenticate via Oauth2, it reports that Oauth2 is not supported for all
three accounts.

Any thoughts on what might be going on ?

Mike
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] flatpak evolution 3.32.5 hanging on attachment upload

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 4:04 PM Anonymous Japhering 
wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 9:56 AM Anonymous Japhering 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:50 AM Milan Crha via evolution-list <
>> evolution-list@gnome.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 2019-09-16 at 14:15 -0500, Japhering, Anonymous via evolution-
>>> list wrote:
>>> > I write an email, attach a 700k file, evolution hangs with the
>>> > message uploading files.
>>> > Hang time is 3-10 minutes depending on the target ( 3-5 minutes to
>>> > gmail/g-suite, 5-10 minutes to Office 365),
>>> > at which point I get a generic failure message an the option to
>>> > continue editing, discard or retry.
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> with "uploading files", do you mean after you Send the message, or when
>>> you select the file to be attached? If the former, is the file already
>>> downloaded in the message? That's indicated in the attachment bar, the
>>> attachment icon shows a "progress indicator" when it is loading/saving.
>>>
>> Sorry.. poor description on my part.
>>
>> I write the email, go through the process of attaching the file, I see
>> the attachment in the attachements bar. Upon clicking send, while waiting
>> the indeterminate amount of time ( varies per service ), I see
>> in the send status section the text "Uploading Files".
>>
>>
>>> When you say generic failure error, how that that look, please?
>>
>>
>> The error across  4 different email services  is a dialog which says
>>
>> An error occurred while sending. How do you want to proceed?
>> The reported error was  "Could not connect to  < service >  Socket I/O
>> timed out".
>>
>>  and today .. it is  happening on all emails.   When I wrote the original
>> email it was only happening on  emails
>> with attachments.
>>
>> The confusing part is that  NOTHING else is having issues.   As I write
>> this I've started  ssh connections to  6 machines in
>> 6 different data centers ( 3 different cloud services ),  started and
>> stopped  vpns to 6 different countries,  slack is running to
>> 5 different channels and probably a dozen other things relying on
>> connectivity, but none of them having issues
>>
>>> And
>>> you run the evolution from a terminal (flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution),
>>> are there any runtime warnings shown when you try to send/upload to the
>>> composer?
>>>
>>
>> Testing starting from a terminal, rather than the Mint menu is on
>> schedule this afternoon.  Customer meetings for the next 4 hours.
>>
>
> Fails when started in a terminal, no significant messages in the terminal.
>
> flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution
>
> (evolution.bin:58): e-mail-engine-WARNING **: 16:40:32.854: Failed to add
> service 'Sendmail' (sendmail): No provider available for protocol “sendmail”
>
> (evolution-addressbook-factory:28): e-book-backend-google-CRITICAL **:
> 16:43:11.730: e_contact_new_from_gdata_entry: assertion 'g_hash_table_size
> (system_groups_by_entry_id) > 0' failed
>
>
>>
>>
>>> I'm wondering whether the behavior depends not only on the file size,
>>> but also file type.
>>>
>>
>> Yesterday.  attachments only .. jpg, png and pdf, all failed.   Today,
>> everything is failing from Evolution, which is why this email
>> is coming through  Gmail  web interface ( 0 for 6 email attempts from
>> Evolution this morning).
>>
>>
>>>
>>> > If I continue editing and save as draft, when I come back to the
>>> > draft, I'm offered the ability to add an attachment, but
>>> > the system with won't take it or isn't displaying it in the
>>> > attachment bar ( don't know which at this point ).
>>>
>>> It looks like the attachment was not loaded yet.
>>>
>>> I do not have 3.32.x flatpak here, the version had been updated to
>>> 3.34.0, which you can get if you re-download the json script/flatpak
>>> manifest from the repository.
>>>
>>
>> I'll try a refresh this afternoon.
>>
>
> Deleted everything and rebuilt ... but it still just built3.32.5
> (flatpak git2ee5104)
> So, nothing changed and the behavior is the same.
>
>>
>>
>>> What versions of xdg-desktop-portal packages you've installed, please?
>>> I have xdg-desktop-portal-1.2.0-3.fc30.x86_64,
>>> xdg-desktop-portal-gtk-1.2.0-3.fc30.x86_64,
>>> xdg-desktop-portal-kde-5.15.4-1.fc30.x86_64
>>> and with them and 3.34.0 flatpak build I can successfully upload 1.8MB
>>> log file to a message (which loaded instantly into the composer) and
>>> send it using Gmail SMTP. I'd say either it's something with the portal
>>> (probably xdg-desktop-portal-gtk) or some odd setting for the SMTP
>>> server.
>>>
>>> xdg-desktop-portal 1.2.0-flatpak3-bionic
>> xdg-desktop-portal-gtk   1.2.0-flatpak1-bionic
>> xdg-desktop-portal-kde  not installed
>>
>
So  I tried the build a couple of times today and was able to send 3 or 4
emails before the failure would happen.

After a restart, I tried another email and this message appeared in the
console window:

(evolution.bin:58): Gtk-WARNING **: 19:31:49.315:

Re: [Evolution] flatpak evolution 3.32.5 hanging on attachment upload

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 9:56 AM Anonymous Japhering 
wrote:

>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:50 AM Milan Crha via evolution-list <
> evolution-list@gnome.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2019-09-16 at 14:15 -0500, Japhering, Anonymous via evolution-
>> list wrote:
>> > I write an email, attach a 700k file, evolution hangs with the
>> > message uploading files.
>> > Hang time is 3-10 minutes depending on the target ( 3-5 minutes to
>> > gmail/g-suite, 5-10 minutes to Office 365),
>> > at which point I get a generic failure message an the option to
>> > continue editing, discard or retry.
>>
>> Hi,
>> with "uploading files", do you mean after you Send the message, or when
>> you select the file to be attached? If the former, is the file already
>> downloaded in the message? That's indicated in the attachment bar, the
>> attachment icon shows a "progress indicator" when it is loading/saving.
>>
> Sorry.. poor description on my part.
>
> I write the email, go through the process of attaching the file, I see the
> attachment in the attachements bar. Upon clicking send, while waiting the
> indeterminate amount of time ( varies per service ), I see
> in the send status section the text "Uploading Files".
>
>
>> When you say generic failure error, how that that look, please?
>
>
> The error across  4 different email services  is a dialog which says
>
> An error occurred while sending. How do you want to proceed?
> The reported error was  "Could not connect to  < service >  Socket I/O
> timed out".
>
>  and today .. it is  happening on all emails.   When I wrote the original
> email it was only happening on  emails
> with attachments.
>
> The confusing part is that  NOTHING else is having issues.   As I write
> this I've started  ssh connections to  6 machines in
> 6 different data centers ( 3 different cloud services ),  started and
> stopped  vpns to 6 different countries,  slack is running to
> 5 different channels and probably a dozen other things relying on
> connectivity, but none of them having issues
>
>> And
>> you run the evolution from a terminal (flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution),
>> are there any runtime warnings shown when you try to send/upload to the
>> composer?
>>
>
> Testing starting from a terminal, rather than the Mint menu is on schedule
> this afternoon.  Customer meetings for the next 4 hours.
>

Fails when started in a terminal, no significant messages in the terminal.

flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution

(evolution.bin:58): e-mail-engine-WARNING **: 16:40:32.854: Failed to add
service 'Sendmail' (sendmail): No provider available for protocol “sendmail”

(evolution-addressbook-factory:28): e-book-backend-google-CRITICAL **:
16:43:11.730: e_contact_new_from_gdata_entry: assertion 'g_hash_table_size
(system_groups_by_entry_id) > 0' failed


>
>
>> I'm wondering whether the behavior depends not only on the file size,
>> but also file type.
>>
>
> Yesterday.  attachments only .. jpg, png and pdf, all failed.   Today,
> everything is failing from Evolution, which is why this email
> is coming through  Gmail  web interface ( 0 for 6 email attempts from
> Evolution this morning).
>
>
>>
>> > If I continue editing and save as draft, when I come back to the
>> > draft, I'm offered the ability to add an attachment, but
>> > the system with won't take it or isn't displaying it in the
>> > attachment bar ( don't know which at this point ).
>>
>> It looks like the attachment was not loaded yet.
>>
>> I do not have 3.32.x flatpak here, the version had been updated to
>> 3.34.0, which you can get if you re-download the json script/flatpak
>> manifest from the repository.
>>
>
> I'll try a refresh this afternoon.
>

Deleted everything and rebuilt ... but it still just built3.32.5
(flatpak git2ee5104)
So, nothing changed and the behavior is the same.

>
>
>> What versions of xdg-desktop-portal packages you've installed, please?
>> I have xdg-desktop-portal-1.2.0-3.fc30.x86_64,
>> xdg-desktop-portal-gtk-1.2.0-3.fc30.x86_64,
>> xdg-desktop-portal-kde-5.15.4-1.fc30.x86_64
>> and with them and 3.34.0 flatpak build I can successfully upload 1.8MB
>> log file to a message (which loaded instantly into the composer) and
>> send it using Gmail SMTP. I'd say either it's something with the portal
>> (probably xdg-desktop-portal-gtk) or some odd setting for the SMTP
>> server.
>>
>> xdg-desktop-portal 1.2.0-flatpak3-bionic
> xdg-desktop-portal-gtk   1.2.0-flatpak1-bionic
> xdg-desktop-portal-kde  not installed
>
>
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] flatpak evolution 3.32.5 hanging on attachment upload

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:50 AM Milan Crha via evolution-list <
evolution-list@gnome.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 2019-09-16 at 14:15 -0500, Japhering, Anonymous via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > I write an email, attach a 700k file, evolution hangs with the
> > message uploading files.
> > Hang time is 3-10 minutes depending on the target ( 3-5 minutes to
> > gmail/g-suite, 5-10 minutes to Office 365),
> > at which point I get a generic failure message an the option to
> > continue editing, discard or retry.
>
> Hi,
> with "uploading files", do you mean after you Send the message, or when
> you select the file to be attached? If the former, is the file already
> downloaded in the message? That's indicated in the attachment bar, the
> attachment icon shows a "progress indicator" when it is loading/saving.
>
Sorry.. poor description on my part.

I write the email, go through the process of attaching the file, I see the
attachment in the attachements bar. Upon clicking send, while waiting the
indeterminate amount of time ( varies per service ), I see
in the send status section the text "Uploading Files".


> When you say generic failure error, how that that look, please?


The error across  4 different email services  is a dialog which says

An error occurred while sending. How do you want to proceed?
The reported error was  "Could not connect to  < service >  Socket I/O
timed out".

 and today .. it is  happening on all emails.   When I wrote the original
email it was only happening on  emails
with attachments.

The confusing part is that  NOTHING else is having issues.   As I write
this I've started  ssh connections to  6 machines in
6 different data centers ( 3 different cloud services ),  started and
stopped  vpns to 6 different countries,  slack is running to
5 different channels and probably a dozen other things relying on
connectivity, but none of them having issues

> And
> you run the evolution from a terminal (flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution),
> are there any runtime warnings shown when you try to send/upload to the
> composer?
>

Testing starting from a terminal, rather than the Mint menu is on schedule
this afternoon.  Customer meetings for the next 4 hours.


> I'm wondering whether the behavior depends not only on the file size,
> but also file type.
>

Yesterday.  attachments only .. jpg, png and pdf, all failed.   Today,
everything is failing from Evolution, which is why this email
is coming through  Gmail  web interface ( 0 for 6 email attempts from
Evolution this morning).


>
> > If I continue editing and save as draft, when I come back to the
> > draft, I'm offered the ability to add an attachment, but
> > the system with won't take it or isn't displaying it in the
> > attachment bar ( don't know which at this point ).
>
> It looks like the attachment was not loaded yet.
>
> I do not have 3.32.x flatpak here, the version had been updated to
> 3.34.0, which you can get if you re-download the json script/flatpak
> manifest from the repository.
>

I'll try a refresh this afternoon.


> What versions of xdg-desktop-portal packages you've installed, please?
> I have xdg-desktop-portal-1.2.0-3.fc30.x86_64,
> xdg-desktop-portal-gtk-1.2.0-3.fc30.x86_64,
> xdg-desktop-portal-kde-5.15.4-1.fc30.x86_64
> and with them and 3.34.0 flatpak build I can successfully upload 1.8MB
> log file to a message (which loaded instantly into the composer) and
> send it using Gmail SMTP. I'd say either it's something with the portal
> (probably xdg-desktop-portal-gtk) or some odd setting for the SMTP
> server.
>
> xdg-desktop-portal 1.2.0-flatpak3-bionic
xdg-desktop-portal-gtk   1.2.0-flatpak1-bionic
xdg-desktop-portal-kde  not installed
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Text color setting or not

[Japhering via evolution-list]

I have a long email that I'm replying via interspersed comments in an
alternative color.
Details:Linux Mint 19.1  Evolution  3.28.5-
0ubuntu0.18.04.1
After about 10 responses,  evolution  no longer responses to the color
change  request.   I'm changing the color  though thecolor change
dropdown that appears in the row above the text window.  Thoughts aside
from upgrading the version Evolution?
Mike

The example:Answers intersperse in blue
On Thu, 2019-07-25 at 15:10 +0530, gir...@vidushiinfotech.com wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>  
> Greetings.
>  
> With reference to CITY VIEW project; before we provide a timeline and
> quote; we have few queries.
> Please help us answer those via the client so we are insynch with the
> requirement and deliverables.
>  
> Are we fixed to one single city or multiple cities?
 Multiple cites,  one at a time.  Each city has to be sold on the
benefit.   So an initial city and some number of months later another
city.  Repeat over time.
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] How often should I expect OAuth2 authentication to fail ?

[Japhering via evolution-list]

On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 19:55 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> 
> Current stable series is 3.32. Why did you build 3.30? At least the
> steps described here:
> https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Flatpak
> are referring to Evolution 3.32 series. You do not need to compile
> it,though, as you can get quite recent version from Flathub too.

Ok, dumped the accounts I imported from a backup into the flatpak 
version.  Then I recreated the 2 Google accounts one freebie account
and one G-Suite account.

Everything seems to be working without issues.

Next question, is there anyway to move my filter rules and signatures
from the non-flatpak version to the flatpak version?

Thanks for all the help with the all the issues I was having with
native and flatpak versions of eovlution when using Oauth2.

Mike

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] How often should I expect OAuth2 authentication to fail ?

[Japhering via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2019-07-01 at 12:38 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-06-27 at 11:09 -0500, Japhering via evolution-list
> wrote:
> 
> Then I installed the flatpak version.
> 
>   Hi,
> I tried on a Fedora 30 machine, which runs GNOME, and installed
> Evolution Flatpak version from Flathub. I configured a new account
> there, instead of using any backup. I did not left checked to add
> also
> Calendars and Contacts for the Gmail account. I also opened Seahorse
> and deleted the OAuth2 token from there (on the host machine). Then I
> ran Evolution from Flatpak (it says in Help->About: 3.32.3 (flatpak
> git)). I've been asked to login to the Google site to get the OAuth2
> token. This worked flawlessly. I saw my mail messages from Gmail.
> After
> that I closed Evolution and ran it again (flatpak run
> org.gnome.Evolution) and I've not been asked to re-renter my OAuth2
> token, neither I saw any error in the GUI, the account successfully
> connected to the server.
> 
> 
> Shutdown Evolution.  Upon restart the flatpak version comes up and
> pitches the following error.
> 
>(evolution.bin:57): e-mail-engine-WARNING **: : Failed to
> add
>service 'Sendmail'(sendmail): No provider available for protocol
>"sendmail"
> 
> That's (more or less) correct, the Flatpak version doesn't have
> access
> to the host system sendmail, thus it is disabled in the code.
> 
> 
> In the error window with in Evolution shows
> 
>Data source “” does not support OAuth 2.0 authentication
> 
> for each account trying to use OAuth2.
> 
> For each mail account, or others?
> 
> 
> Both accounts are setup with 
> 
>Receiving Email:
>   Server:  imap.gmail.com  Port:993
>   Encryption method:  TLS on a dedicated port
> 
> I have the same.
> 
> 
>Sending Email:
>   Server:   smtp.gmail.com  Port: 587
>   Encryption method:  STARTLS after connecting
> 
> I use port 465 and "TLS on a dedicated port", which had been auto-
> selected by the configuration lookup. This may not have any impact,
> because it's used only when sending messages, not when receiving
> them.
> The authentication type says "OAuth2 (Google)" for both parts of the
> mail account. The "gmail.com" in the addresses (for both IMAP and
> SMTP)
> can be changed to "googlemail.com" and it should work too.

I've tried both ports and both methods .. neither of which worked
> 
> Neither is successful at authenticating with the Gmail servers.
> 
> Works fine for me. I also tried with the added Calendar and Contacts
> (at the end of the New Mail Wizard) and it works fine too.
> 
> I didn't have it running for several hours, of course, I simply tried
> to close evolution and run it again, which I understood as being one
> of
> the ways to reproduce the error message for you.
> 
> This might be a stupid question, and I apologize for it: did you
> install the Flatpak version from Flathub or from anywhere else? I did
> use the Flathub version myself and I suppose you did too.

Yes, from flathub.
> 
> The main difference I can see, apart of using different distribution,
> is that I configured the account from scratch, while you used some
> backup. Could you try with a fresh account instead, please? I do not
> see anything else different, especially when you use the same Flathub
> version as I do.

Ok.. I'll scratch one machine and rebuild flatpak and NOT import data. 
It will be a day or two.


Mike

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] How often should I expect OAuth2 authentication to fail ?

[Japhering via evolution-list]

On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 19:13 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 09:38 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> 
> The interesting thing is now I have 1 *.source file that has an Auth
> section for my gmail account, but doesn't have one for my G-Suite
> account. Yet, either way .. using 0auth2 fails with the same error.
> 
>   Hi,
> just in case, the flatpak version doesn't save its data into
> ~/.config,
> the flatpak version runs as a sandbox, not talking to the installed
> evolution/evolution-data-server at all.
> 
> 
> Is there any easy way to tell if my currently installed version of
> data-server was built with it enabled ?
> 
> I'm afraid not from the outside. One can run a little test program to
> figure it out, but it's not needed. The flatpak version does have it
> enabled.
> 
> 
> So I might just be confused by the current evolution version being
> listed as 3.32, but the runtimes being 3.30. or the docs are out of
> sync.
> 
> I see. The "runtime-version" means "what libraries are needed to
> build
> & run the software being built". It doesn't say what is built inside.
> There are also "branch": "gnome-3-32" in the .json file, which say
> what
> software is built. In any case, the best is the Help->About.
> 
> I do not understand why the flatpak evolution would claim the error.
> Not being it the flatpak version I'd suggest to run the
> evolution-source-registry from the command line with debugging on
> [1],
> but the flatpak version has everything fresh. I'm out of idea
> (unless,
> I do not know, you accidentally ran the system evolution, instead of
> the flatpak evolution, or when the claim comes from other application
> than from evolution itself, still being it the host system
> application,
> not the flatpak one).

I took another machine and loaded it up with  Linux Mint 19.1
based on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
Linux 4.15.0-52-generic #56-Ubuntu SMP

I purposedly did not install the Evolution system build.

Then I installed the flatpak version.

I start the flatpak and have it load an Evolution backup as a starting
point.  The load succeeds with no messages in the terminal window where
I started the flatpak on the command line.

Shutdown Evolution.  Upon restart the flatpak version comes up and
pitches the following error.

   (evolution.bin:57): e-mail-engine-WARNING **: : Failed to add
   service 'Sendmail'(sendmail): No provider available for protocol
   "sendmail"

In the error window with in Evolution shows

   Data source “” does not support OAuth 2.0 authentication

for each account trying to use OAuth2.  Once cleared the messages never
reappear, yet the status icon in the account pane shows the connection
arrows with the red error indicator.

Both accounts are setup with 

   Receiving Email:
  Server:  imap.gmail.com  Port:993
  Encryption method:  TLS on a dedicated port

   Sending Email:
  Server:   smtp.gmail.com  Port: 587
  Encryption method:  STARTLS after connecting


Neither is successful at authenticating with the Gmail servers.





___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] How often should I expect OAuth2 authentication to fail ?

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 19:55 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 12:22 -0500, Japhering wrote:
>
> I configured Oauth2 in Google Cloud Platform Console (created the
> token/key pair ).
>
> Hmm, I meant where you configured the Google (IMAP/SMTP) account,
> whether directly in Evolution, or in some 3rd-party software.
> Evolution
> itself asks for the token when the account is created, if the account
> is configured in Evolution directly.


Directly in Evolution

>
> Then I configured Evolution to us Oauth2 for both sending/receiving
> email with StartTLS after connecting set.
>
> The setting for Gmail is:
>Server: imap.gmail.com
>Port: 993
>Encryption: TLS on a dedicated port
>Authentication: OAuth2 (Google)
>
> With this it works properly for me, at least.


Mine reads the same and doesn't work :-(

>
> So since 14/6/19, I haven't been able to connect with Oauth2.  When I
> do get an error message it is the "Failed to authenticate: Data
> source
> “” does not support OAuth 2.0 authentication" message.
>
> Could you search in ~/.config/evolution/sources/ for all .source
> files
> which contain the email address from the error message, and see what
> value a Method key of an [Authentication] section of those files is
> set
> to, please? It might be like this:
>
>[Authentication]
>Host=imap.gmail.com
>Method=Google
>Port=993
>User=


I currently have 3 of about 60 *.source files that contain authentication
sections that look just like that.

This morning, since this machine has been through a series of updates
without reloading Mint 17.x -> 18.x -> 19.1, I created an evolution backup
and uninstalled evolution, then reinstalled and loaded from the
backup.

The interesting thing is now I have 1 *.source file that has an Auth
section for my gmail account, but doesn't have one for my G-Suite account.
Yet, either way .. using 0auth2 fails with the same error.

Failed to authenticate: Data source “” does not support OAuth 2.0
authentication

> where the 'Method=Google' means "OAuth2 against a Google server".
> Having the account configured with GNOME Online Accounts, it would be
> 'Method=OAuth2'. There are some restrictions on the OAuth2 for
> accounts
> configured in Evolution, it requires evolution-data-server to be
> compiled with that enabled. When it is, a web page with login to the
> Google server is shown when the token expires.


Is there any easy way to tell if my currently installed version of
data-server was built with it enabled ?

> Any changes in those underlying files might be done when the
> evolution-source-registry process is not running, which can be tricky
> to achieve in certain situations (under certain desktop
> environments).
> You can run that process from a terminal too, maybe it writes
> something
> interesting there.
>
>
> I saw some issues in Bugzilla that suggested it might be related to
> bug in the version I'm using so I built the 3.30 version of the
> flatpak based on the info on the Evolution-flatpak page.
>
> Current stable series is 3.32. Why did you build 3.30? At least the
> steps described here:
> https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Flatpak
> are referring to Evolution 3.32 series. You do not need to compile
> it,
> though, as you can get quite recent version from Flathub too.


I say 3.30, because a) that is the version listed in the commands listed on
the evolution-flatpak page and b) in the json file used
by the flatpak system "runtime-version" : "3.30".

So I might just be confused by the current evolution version being listed
as 3.32, but the runtimes being 3.30. or the docs are out of
sync.

>
> Same failure to connect but NO error messages or dialogs.
>
> You can verify you run correct version in Help->About of the
> Evolution.
> Maybe, the page mentions 3.30 of the GNOME Platform/SDK, but it
> doesn't
> claim what version of Evolution it actually builds, which may be
> confusing.


About says 3.32.4 (flatpak gitc51c64f).

Interesting, when I first start the flatpak, I get the

Failed to authenticate: Data source “” does not support OAuth 2.0
authentication

message, but once I close the message dialog, I never get it again. So
short of paying attention to the connection icon next to each account,
there is no indication that anything is not working.


> Bye,
> Milan
>
> P.S.: Feel free to reply only to the list (Ctrl+L in Evolution), I am
> subscribed and I do reply to your messages through the list, not to
> you
> directly, too.


My apologies, I thought I hit group reply. And today, I noticed that
clicking group reply does both directly to you and to the list. learned
something new

>



On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 7:27 AM Milan Crha via evolution-list <
evolution-list@gnome.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 2019-06-19 at 16:38 -0500, Japhering wrote:
> >Failed to authenticate: Data source “” does not
> > support OAuth 2.0 authentication
>
> Hi,
> that's an error message from 

Re: [Evolution] How often should I expect OAuth2 authentication to fail ?

[Japhering via evolution-list]

On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 13:44 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Wed, 2019-06-19 at 16:38 -0500, Japhering wrote:
> 
>Failed to authenticate: Data source “” does not
> support OAuth 2.0 authentication
> 
>   Hi,
> that's an error message from evolution(-data-server). I'm not sure
> whether you configured the account directly in Evolution, or through
> GNOME (or Ubuntu) Online accounts. There had been some race
> conditions
> involved when evolution-source-registry considered what
> authentication
> method respective accounts should use (mostly related to Online
> Accounts and Collection accounts (like if you configured Gmail in
> Evolution and enabled to add also calendars and contacts at the
> end)).

I configured Oauth2 in Google Cloud Platform Console (created the
token/key pair ).

Then I configured Evolution to us Oauth2 for both sending/receiving
email with StartTLS after connecting set.  Everything was running
smoothly, minus the daily headache of the initial connection in the
morning and then again about 8 hours later.  (this account is still on 
pop with login/password).

So since 14/6/19, I haven't been able to connect with Oauth2.  When I
do get an error message it is the "Failed to authenticate: Data source
“” does not support OAuth 2.0 authentication" message.

I saw some issues in Bugzilla that suggested it might be related to bug
in the version I'm using so I built the 3.30 version of the flatpak
based on the info on the Evolution-flatpak page.  Same failure to
connect but NO error messages or dialogs.

DISTRIB_ID=LinuxMint
DISTRIB_RELEASE=19.1
DISTRIB_CODENAME=tessa
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa"
NAME="Linux Mint"
VERSION="19.1 (Tessa)"
Linux 4.15.0-52-generic x86_64

Same architecture and kernel versions on both boxes.
> 
> P.S.: Searching on Google with "evolution Data source does not
> support
> OAuth 2.0 authentication" gives some results. I didn't look at them,
> but, sometimes, one can reach related information easier this way,
> than
> asking. Sometimes.
> 
> ___
> evolution-list mailing list
> evolution-list@gnome.org
> To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
> 
> 

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] How often should I expect OAuth2 authentication to fail ?

[Japhering via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2019-06-17 at 08:29 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Sun, 2019-06-16 at 17:51 -0500, Japhering via evolution-list wrote:
> On Sun, 2019-06-16 at 01:59 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Sat, 2019-06-15 at 18:11 -0500, Japhering via evolution-list
> wrote:
> 
> LinuxMint 19.1 running mate
> Evolution 2.38.5-0unbuntu0.18.04.1
> 
>   Hi,
> I suppose it's a typo, the version might be 3., not 2..
> 
> When I start Evolution for the day, I get a message along the lines
> of "OAuth2 is not supported for ".
> 
> I guess you face issue discussed in this thread:
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2018-August/msg00254.html
> which contains references to other resources. An evolution-data-server
> version 3.28.5 might probably work better, but I guess you have it
> installed too, (another) but I do not recall much, it's a long time
> ago. The best would be to get to the latest stable version, which is
> currently 3.32.2 (with a 3.32.3 release planned just for today), though
> I understand it's not possible in all cases (like with Long Term
> Support distributions, which do not provide major application (and
> library [1]) updates).
> 

definitely a type-o  Evolution 3.28.5-0unbuntu0.18.04.1

Here is the error message I get on initial bring up of Evolution

   Failed to authenticate: Data source “” does not support OAuth 
2.0 authentication

Typically after several attempts it will succeed and then fail again about 8 
hours later.

I have verified with the controller of the domain that OAuth2 is definitely on 
and active.

Mike



___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] How often should I expect OAuth2 authentication to fail ?

[Japhering via evolution-list]

On Sun, 2019-06-16 at 01:59 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Sat, 2019-06-15 at 18:11 -0500, Japhering via evolution-list
> wrote:
> 
> LinuxMint 19.1 running mate
> Evolution 2.38.5-0unbuntu0.18.04.1
> 
> How often should I expect OAuth2 authentication to fail? Currently, I
> see it fail the first time I open Evolution and then about every 45
> minutes there after..
> 
> Is this about Evolution EWS, or where to use OAuth2?
> Also, you did not tell anyone which exact error message you see.
> Please include sufficient information.

No .. OAuth2 interactions with Evolution.   EWS isn't installed. I'm
just doing imap to gmail and office365.

When I start Evolution for the day, I get a message along the lines of 
"OAuth2 is not supported for ".

On the 2nd or 3rd try to retrieve email via clicking "Send/Recieve" I
get a successful connection which will last for approximate 8 hours. 
At which point, I get the same error message along with a with a popup 
offering to "reconnect".  If I click the reconnect then I get prompted
for login and password after authenticating, I get asked to allow
Evolution to connect to my gmail account.

After reconnecting, it will normally last until I quit for the night
which is normally less than 8 hours later.

I shutdown the computer over night.. and the process starts over in the
morning.

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] How often should I expect OAuth2 authentication to fail ?

[Japhering via evolution-list]

LinuxMint 19.1  running  mate
Evolution  2.38.5-0unbuntu0.18.04.1

How often should I expect OAuth2 authentication to fail?   Currently, I
see it fail the first time I open Evolution  and then about every 45
minutes
there after..

Where I'm sitting doesn't seem to make a difference nor does  vpn
status (  vpn on or off, the timing is about the same )

Thanks.

Mike
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Evolution, VPNs and Google

[Japhering via evolution-list]

On Sat, 2019-04-20 at 23:02 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2019-04-20 at 16:49 -0500, Japhering wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2019-04-19 at 23:01 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> So what is you base OS?  Linux? which distro base?
> 
> Fedora 29, though I doubt that matters.
> 

At this point, I'm stumped.  I'm looking at the whole picture, as there
are lots of people using VPNs (ExpressVPN, NordVPN, ProtonVPN) around
the world, easy to find and converse with.  The harder part is finding
folks running Evolution on a specific VPN.

This is slowly driving me nuts.

Mike

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Evolution, VPNs and Google

[Japhering via evolution-list]

On Fri, 2019-04-19 at 23:01 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-04-19 at 15:23 -0500, Michael H Moran wrote:
> 
> Imap
> Inbound is  port 993 with TLS on a dedicated port via password
> Outbound is  port 465 with TLS on a dedicated port via password
> 
> As previously stated. Receiving always works .. with or without a
> VPN,
> while outbound only works without a VPN.
> 
> I just tested it with ExpressVPN, using an Evolution session that was
> already running (i.e. I turned on the VPN without restarting Evo). My
> settings are the same as yours. It worked perfectly. I don't know
> what
> to suggest other than maybe trying a different VPN to see what
> happens
> (for example a free trial version of ExpressVPN or NordVPN).
> 
So what is you base OS?  Linux? which distro base?

Mike

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Evolution, VPNs and Google

[Japhering via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2019-04-17 at 09:13 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue,
2019-04-16 at 18:12 -0500, Japhering via evolution-list
> wrote:
> 
>
Evolution  3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1
> Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa
>
ProtonVPN  and any number of others
> 
> What's the best practice for
using Evolution across a VPN with GMail
> ?
> 
> It seems that every time
I'm on a VPN  either incoming, outgoing or
> both  operations
fail.   Occaisionally,  I'll get
> a Google notice that it blocked an
attempted access, but it doesn't 
> happen consistently.
> 
> Can you
access the Gmail account via the web interface? If so, there
> is
> no
reason for Evolution to have any problems. Evo (and Gmail) aren't
> even
aware they are running on a VPN and there are no configuration
> options
for this. If this isn't working, the problem may be with your
> VPN
setup. (I've used ExpressVPN without any issues.)

Evolution works flawlessly without a VPN .. and only half way when
using a VPN.

Imap
Inbound is  port 993 with TLS on a dedicated port via password
Outbound is  port 465 with TLS on a dedicated port via password

As previously stated. Receiving always works .. with or without a VPN,
while outbound only works without a VPN.

Mike
> 

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Evolution, VPNs and Google

[Japhering via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2019-04-17 at 09:11 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> 
> What's the best practice for using Evolution across a VPN with GMail
> ?
> 
> It seems that every time I'm on a VPN either incoming, outgoing or
> both operations fail.
> 
> The VPN is setup at a system level - Evolution knows nothing about
> it.
> The only issues I ever get are if I start the VPN while Evolution is
> connected - presumably that's because the connections are persistent
> (i.e. you don't login everytime the mail is refreshed) and the
> packets
> get confused where they are supposed to go. I tend to get in to the
> habit putting Evolution offline before starting the VPN.

When I'm not in my office, the boot the laptop, start the VPN and once
the VPN is setup, then and only then I start Evolution.  I've worked
this way for 30 plus years, dating back to when I was traveling the
world for big blue.

>  Occaisionally, I'll get
> a Google notice that it blocked an attempted access, but it doesn't
> happen consistently.
> 
> Is it a corporate VPN or one of the internet free ones - it may be
> that
> Google has blacklisted known sources of problems (like one of the
> throw-away VPN sites).

I'm using ProtonVPN from the same folks that provide ProtonMail, a paid
version supporting many hundreds of servers.  And it doesn't matter if
I'm using a local Texas base server, a server based elsewhere in the
world or ProtonVPN's secure core servers, the behavior is the same.

The only thing that comes to mind is what type of connection is the
outbound smtp server expecting tcp or udp.  If it is udp, then that is
my problem as I typically run a tcp vpn because of some of the tools I
need only work over tcp.

Mike

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Evolution, VPNs and Google

[Japhering via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2019-04-17 at 09:11 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> 
> 
> What's the best practice for using Evolution across a VPN with GMail
> ?
> 
> It seems that every time I'm on a VPN either incoming, outgoing or
> both operations fail.
> 
> The VPN is setup at a system level - Evolution knows nothing about it.
> The only issues I ever get are if I start the VPN while Evolution is
> connected - presumably that's because the connections are persistent
> (i.e. you don't login everytime the mail is refreshed) and the packets
> get confused where they are supposed to go. I tend to get in to the
> habit putting Evolution offline before starting the VPN.
> 
> 
>  Occaisionally, I'll get
> a Google notice that it blocked an attempted access, but it doesn't
> happen consistently.
> 
> Is it a corporate VPN or one of the internet free ones - it may be that
> Google has blacklisted known sources of problems (like one of the
> throw-away VPN sites).

It is ProtonVPN from the folks the provide ProtonMail. It doesn't matter, which
servers or countries.


> 
> 
> Is this one of the cases, where configure Oauth2 would be of benefit?
> 
> I doubt it - I'm no expert on OAuth2, but AFAIUI it's just a different
> mechanism for authentication (using a token rather than a password),
> other than that the connection just uses IMAP (or what Google calls
> IMAP).
> 
> P.
> 
> 
> ___
> evolution-list mailing list
> evolution-list@gnome.org
> To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
> 
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Evolution, VPNs and Google

[Japhering via evolution-list]

Everything works without a VPN  or via the web interfaces.  Yet,  every
time I try to use Evolution acrossa VPN, it typically allows
receiving  emails, but never, every works on sending.
And thus, I'm stumped as to why.
And yes,  I start the VPN first, and then bring up Evolution after the
tunnel has been established. 
Mike
On Wed, 2019-04-17 at 09:13 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2019-04-16 at 18:12 -0500, Japhering via evolution-list
> wrote:
> Evolution  3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1Linux Mint 19.1 TessaProtonVPN  and
> any number of others
> What's the best practice for using Evolution across a VPN with GMail
> ?
> It seems that every time I'm on a VPN  either incoming, outgoing
> orboth  operations fail.   Occaisionally,  I'll geta Google notice
> that it blocked an attempted access, but it doesn't happen
> consistently.
> Can you access the Gmail account via the web interface? If so, there
> isno reason for Evolution to have any problems. Evo (and Gmail)
> aren'teven aware they are running on a VPN and there are no
> configurationoptions for this. If this isn't working, the problem may
> be with yourVPN setup. (I've used ExpressVPN without any issues.)
> Is this one of the cases, where configure Oauth2  would be of
> benefit?
> No.
> poc
> ___evolution-list mailing
> listevolution-list@gnome.orgTo change your list options or
> unsubscribe, visit ...
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] Evolution, VPNs and Google

[Japhering via evolution-list]

Evolution  3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1
Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa
ProtonVPN  and any number of others

What's the best practice for using Evolution across a VPN with GMail ?

It seems that every time I'm on a VPN  either incoming, outgoing or
both  operations fail.   Occaisionally,  I'll get
a Google notice that it blocked an attempted access, but it doesn't 
happen consistently.

Is this one of the cases, where configure Oauth2  would be of benefit?

Mike
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Stripping big attachments

[Japhering via evolution-list]

On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 15:27 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 06:51 -0800, Jeff wrote:
> Where it says "SaveAs" to the right of the attachment at the bottom of 
> the email, I was expecting a dropdown with options such as: "Detach", 
> "Detach and Delete", "Save As".
> 
> As you say, anywhere will work, but it's always good to get insights
> into what people are expecting where.  If you want, file it as an RFE.
> 

It would also be nice if the option was always present, but nonfunctional if 
there
isn't an attachment.

I read the message about it being in the right click drop down and, of course,
when I clicked it wasn't there, no indication what so ever.

So I went looking specifically for a message with an attachment .. then it 
appears.

Guess I'm too used to having options greyed out rather than removed.
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Change in behavior of search

[Japhering via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2019-02-25 at 09:42 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-02-22 at 10:01 -0600, Japhering wrote:
> Show:   All Messages  Search:in Current Account
> 
>   Hi,
> the "Current Account" search type searches in all folders the account
> has. That's, in case of Gmail, also "[Gmail]/All Messages",
> "[Gmail]/Important", and others under "[Gmail]/". As the All Messages
> suggests, there are all messages from all folders (labels) you've
> configured. That makes it the second copy. The third copy can be in the
> [Gmail]/Important, but maybe in another folder too.
> 
> All are shown to be in the same location.
> 
> This is unlikely. I'd guess that there's some issue in the local
> summary of the server content, but you said there's nothing relevant on
> the evolution console, thus it's not what I thought of.
> 
> By any chance, could it be that you used to search for messages in
> "Current Folder", instead of "Current Account" in the past? That would
> explain the change in the behavior you are experiencing.

More than likely, although, I don't remember ever using that switch.  Setting
it back to folder fixes my issue.  So, the only mystery left is when, why or did
I switch the setting.  Definitely not worth chasing.

Thanks for the catch.

Mike
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Change in behavior of search

[Japhering via evolution-list]

On Fri, 2019-02-22 at 17:06 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-02-22 at 10:01 -0600, Japhering via evolution-list wrote:
> Evolution starts cleanly at the command line.  Sitting in the inbox for
> the account I want to search via the search bar.
> 
> Show:   All Messages  Search:in Current Account
> 
> Regards of the type of keyword -- something from the subject line or an
> email address, I end up with 3 copies of the matches.
> 
> Simple case, I registered for a merchant account which offers a gateway
> to their services named Lucy.  As a result of registration I have 1
> email with a user guide pdf and 1 email with support information.
> 
> Using lucy as the keyword, I get 3 copies of the user guide email, 3
> copies of the support information email and 2 copies of a credit card
> receipt sent from the lucy gateway service.   All are shown to be in
> the same location. Each message type has the same timestamp for the
> type (user doc shows Mon 15:55 x 3, support info shows Mon 10:18 x 3
> and receipt shows  01/25/2019 01:29 x 2)
> 
> I've checked the headers and the body of the emails and don't find
> any correlation in the number of copies and the number of uses of the
> keyword in the emails in question.
> 
> To make this totally clear: 
> Are these triplicated messages only shown in *search results*? Or do
> you also see the three copies of the same message in the corresponding
> folder in the "default view", when you have no search view applied?

Tripled ONLY on search.  Scrolling through message list shows only 1 copy 
of each message.  Looking at Gmail with a browser, also only shows one of
each.

Definitely only a Evolution search thing.

8 hours later and the only messages on the console from evolution are 5 
messages caused by clicking on a hyperlink ( Opening in existing browser 
session. ) 

And the following:

(evolution:7724): Gtk-WARNING **: 16:18:16.171: no trigger event for menu 
popup
Gtk-Message: 16:51:07.537: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. 
This is discouraged.


___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Change in behavior of search

[Japhering via evolution-list]

On Fri, 2019-02-22 at 08:30 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-02-21 at 17:35 -0600, Japhering via evolution-list
> wrote:
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> 
>   Hi,
> please, do not forward (Ctrl+F) messages, rather reply to them
> (Ctrl+R), or even better reply to the list (Ctrl+L) here, unless
> asked
> anything else specifically, thus all the threading is correct. Avoid
> HTML format feels like a good idea too. Again, at least here on this
> list.

Sorry,  forgot to change from my default evolution email account to the
email registered with the list.  One of the few inconveniences of
having multiple emails addresses in a single client.  If only evolution
would pick the correct email to respond as...

> 
> Any thoughts on what changed?
> 
> Nothing changed. I can search and I do not get any single message
> multiple times. Could you run evolution from a terminal and check
> whether any runtime errors are shown before or after you start the
> search?
> 
> Could you provide detailed steps, please? That would contain the
> selected folder (like On This Computer/Inbox or IMAP Account/Inbox)
> and
> the exact search options you are using, please?
> 
> I understood you see it with both On This Computer and an IMAP
> account,
> which is unlikely. Could it be that you have View->Show Deleted/Junk
> messages checked and there are such messages shown? Or any other
> filter
> in action (instead of Show: All Messages)? There are plenty of
> options
> which can hide some messages for you, but none which could duplicate
> the messages, exactly three times on two different machines (I'd
> guess
> something being wrong in the local cache/summary for the folder, but
> not when two machines are involved and do the same). Does it do it in
> a
> different folder(s) too, or only in a single folder?

Evolution starts cleanly at the command line.  Sitting in the inbox for
the account I want to search via the search bar.

Show:   All Messages  Search:in Current Account

Regards of the type of keyword -- something from the subject line or an
email address, I end up with 3 copies of the matches.

Simple case, I registered for a merchant account which offers a gateway
to their services named Lucy.  As a result of registration I have 1
email with a user guide pdf and 1 email with support information.

Using lucy as the keyword, I get 3 copies of the user guide email, 3
copies of the support information email and 2 copies of a credit card
receipt sent from the lucy gateway service.   All are shown to be in
the same location. Each message type has the same timestamp for the
type (user doc shows Mon 15:55 x 3, support info shows Mon 10:18 x 3
and receipt shows  01/25/2019 01:29 x 2)

I've checked the headers and the body of the emails and don't find
any correlation in the number of copies and the number of uses of the
keyword in the emails in question.

In the course of writing this email, I've read another 2 dozen that
arrived, responded to 8, added 4 calendar events and added/edited 6
contacts and still no errors showing in the terminal where I started 
evolution.

Mike

___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Change in behavior of search

[Japhering via evolution-list]

 Forwarded Message 
From: Michael H Moran 
To: Andre Klapper , evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Change in behavior of search
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 17:24:27 -0600

> On Fri, 2019-02-22 at 00:00 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > On Thu, 2019-02-21 at 12:11 -0600, Japhering via evolution-list
> > wrote:Evolution 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1  on LinuxMint 
> > DISTRIB_ID=LinuxMintDISTRIB_RELEASE=19.1DISTRIB_CODENAME=tessaDISTR
> > IB_DESCRIPTION="Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa"NAME="Linux
> > Mint"VERSION="19.1 (Tessa)"
> > So at this point, every time I search from an email in a
> > particularaccount. I get show 3, yes, 3 copies of each message. It
> > didn't usedto bethat way. I used to only get 1 copy.
> > Any thoughts on what changed?
> > Not yet, but to start debugging you could add the "Location" column
> > andsee where all of these messages are actually physically located:
> > https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-change-columns-in-message-list.htmlAlso
> > , which account type (POP, IMAP, ...) is this about?
> 
> I've the same version of Evolution and LinuxMint on different
> computers.  The primary machine is configured forpop, the secondary
> machines are configured for imap.  Both primary and secondary
> machines show thesame behaviour, 3 copies of each message .. all
> three copies have are located in the same place, all have the same
> timestamp.
> Initially, I thought it might be the keyword I was using appearing
> both in the subject and in the body, whichit does, but the number of
> copies does not correspond to the number of times the keyword
> appears.
> 
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list