RE: how to cut down on spam

2003-06-25 Thread Freddie Soerensen
Maybe you want to take a look at this :
http://www.logsat.com/SpamFilter/default.asp

 
It is easier to change the specification to fit the program than vice
versa. 
 

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 23:38
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Hi all...
 
 We are running Exchange 5.5 and as most of you we receive a 
 lot of spam in the company. My company does not want to buy 
 any spam sofware as it cost a lot of money. Is there anything 
 built into exchange that will help reduce the spam? Is there 
 anything that could be done on the Outlook Client that will 
 reduce the spam?
 We are also running GroupShield. 
 
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Public Folders-Exchange 5.5

2003-06-25 Thread Mataloni, Daniel

How access to Public Folders in different Sites, in Differents Domains??
I configure Public Folder Affinity, but nobody have access out the Site.

Trust relationship?? It´s  necesary??

I access to Public Folders in other Sites, without Trust, and Public folder
Affinity.

Thanks.

Daniel Mataloni
 

 

 

 

 

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owa issues

2003-06-25 Thread Avi Smith-Rapaport
Getting a double login prompt from an external XP machine.
On site when you go to OWA it only asks you to login once, but off site with this 
winxp machine it is asking for a double login.
Tested with a win2k machine off site and it seemed to work with only one login.
Went to ms site and couldn't find anything I was doing wrong?
Any help would be amazing.
2nd weird thing is that with the winxp machine the first login allows me to save user 
id and password, but the 2nd login has the box but even if I check the box and type in 
my user id and pass it doesn't save it.
OWA is accessible though but again with 2 logins.

Avi


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RE: owa issues

2003-06-25 Thread Erik Sojka
Is the XP machine on the domain?  What are your IE security settings for the
zone (look at the bottom of the list for settings that say Log on using
current password, etc.)

 -Original Message-
 From: Avi Smith-Rapaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:01 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: owa issues
 
 
 Getting a double login prompt from an external XP machine.
 On site when you go to OWA it only asks you to login once, 
 but off site with this winxp machine it is asking for a double login.
 Tested with a win2k machine off site and it seemed to work 
 with only one login.
 Went to ms site and couldn't find anything I was doing wrong?
 Any help would be amazing.
 2nd weird thing is that with the winxp machine the first 
 login allows me to save user id and password, but the 2nd 
 login has the box but even if I check the box and type in my 
 user id and pass it doesn't save it.
 OWA is accessible though but again with 2 logins.
 
 Avi
 
 
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RE: Closing Outlook doesn't kill process - no pocket pc and will go back and apply service packs.

2003-06-25 Thread Joe Pochedley
You said that the user has offline folders enabled?  Has synchronization
finished properly?  The OST file may have become corrupt which is
causing background synch to hang the Outlook process.  Does disabling
offline folders fix the problem?  If the machine isn't a laptop, there's
no real reason for Offline Folders anyway (at least not until OL2k3's
cached Exchange or Local Store mode)

Joe Pochedley
If you have time to do it twice, 
you had time to do it right in
the first place.


-Original Message-
From: Michael Wade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Closing Outlook doesn't kill process - no pocket pc and
will go back and apply service packs.


I know the whole setup is a nightmare.  If I had my way I would slick
the thing and start it from scratch.  I just have my hands full with
this job as it is... I will get back in touch with you guys after I look
at it in a day or two. 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 2:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Closing Outlook doesn't kill process

I didn't know you could upgrade from Me to W2k.
Anyhoo, Office 2000 with Outlook 2002 sounds like a bad mix to me.
Have you applied all the latest office service packs?


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:48 PM
Subject: Closing Outlook doesn't kill process


I've got a client using a laptop that was upgraded to Win2K from WinME.
They are using Outlook2002 and also have Office 2000 Premium installed.
They
are also connected to an Exchange 2000 SBS with offline folders enabled
for
their mailbox and calendar.  When starting the system up and starting
Outlook everything is fine.  However if you quit Outlook and try and
start
it later the hourglass will run for a moment and then nothing will
happen.
I have discovered that after quitting Outlook the outlook.exe process
stays
listed in task manager's process list, and that killing this process
will
allow the subsequent instances of Outlook to run.  I have already
attempted
a repair but this had no effect.  I was hoping for some input from you
guys
and gals before I start uninstalling everything on their machine.

Thanks in advance,

Michael Wade
ICQ: 4927289


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RE: owa issues

2003-06-25 Thread Avi Smith-Rapaport
The machine is a stand alone not on the domain.
It logs in remotely.

Avi


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa issues


Is the XP machine on the domain?  What are your IE security settings for the
zone (look at the bottom of the list for settings that say Log on using
current password, etc.)

 -Original Message-
 From: Avi Smith-Rapaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:01 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: owa issues
 
 
 Getting a double login prompt from an external XP machine.
 On site when you go to OWA it only asks you to login once, 
 but off site with this winxp machine it is asking for a double login.
 Tested with a win2k machine off site and it seemed to work 
 with only one login.
 Went to ms site and couldn't find anything I was doing wrong?
 Any help would be amazing.
 2nd weird thing is that with the winxp machine the first 
 login allows me to save user id and password, but the 2nd 
 login has the box but even if I check the box and type in my 
 user id and pass it doesn't save it.
 OWA is accessible though but again with 2 logins.
 
 Avi
 
 
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RE: Closing Outlook doesn't kill process - no pocket pc and will go back and apply service packs.

2003-06-25 Thread Slinger, Gary
If the machine isn't a laptop, there's no real reason for Offline Folders
anyway

Disagree.  All of my power users where I am now, and every other
customer job I've worked on, has OST's setup for desktops.  Allows a server
to be pulled with less impact on them (it does happen from time to time...).
Hell, I have one guy that's still running Exchange 5.0, with circular
logging enabled - full OST's on five clients, and a static backup of the
server.  He doesn't take daily backups, and is fully aware that if there's a
problem, to copy the OST's to PST's, etc.  He's never lost a single piece of
data.


-Original Message-
From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 09:09
To: Exchange Discussions

You said that the user has offline folders enabled?  Has synchronization
finished properly?  The OST file may have become corrupt which is causing
background synch to hang the Outlook process.  Does disabling offline
folders fix the problem?  If the machine isn't a laptop, there's no real
reason for Offline Folders anyway (at least not until OL2k3's cached
Exchange or Local Store mode)

Joe Pochedley
If you have time to do it twice,
you had time to do it right in
the first place.


-Original Message-
From: Michael Wade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Closing Outlook doesn't kill process - no pocket pc and
will go back and apply service packs.


I know the whole setup is a nightmare.  If I had my way I would slick
the thing and start it from scratch.  I just have my hands full with
this job as it is... I will get back in touch with you guys after I look
at it in a day or two. 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 2:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Closing Outlook doesn't kill process

I didn't know you could upgrade from Me to W2k.
Anyhoo, Office 2000 with Outlook 2002 sounds like a bad mix to me.
Have you applied all the latest office service packs?


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:48 PM
Subject: Closing Outlook doesn't kill process


I've got a client using a laptop that was upgraded to Win2K from WinME.
They are using Outlook2002 and also have Office 2000 Premium installed.
They
are also connected to an Exchange 2000 SBS with offline folders enabled
for
their mailbox and calendar.  When starting the system up and starting
Outlook everything is fine.  However if you quit Outlook and try and
start
it later the hourglass will run for a moment and then nothing will
happen.
I have discovered that after quitting Outlook the outlook.exe process
stays
listed in task manager's process list, and that killing this process
will
allow the subsequent instances of Outlook to run.  I have already
attempted
a repair but this had no effect.  I was hoping for some input from you
guys
and gals before I start uninstalling everything on their machine.

Thanks in advance,

Michael Wade
ICQ: 4927289


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RE: Closing Outlook doesn't kill process - no pocket pc and will go back and apply service packs.

2003-06-25 Thread bscott
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, at 3:04pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 He doesn't take daily backups, and is fully aware that if there's a
 problem, to copy the OST's to PST's, etc.  He's never lost a single piece
 of data.

  ... and I know people who don't ware their seatbelts because they've
never been in an accident.

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RE: how to cut down on spam

2003-06-25 Thread Tigue Williams
Has anyone heard or used the surf control product. It
seems much more expensive than logstat ISP or XWALL.
Can anyone mention any differences? We definitely
don't want to block real customers from sending us
email--just the spam.
--- Freddie Soerensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Maybe you want to take a look at this :
 http://www.logsat.com/SpamFilter/default.asp
 
  
 It is easier to change the specification to fit the
 program than vice
 versa. 
  
 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 23:38
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Hi all...
  
  We are running Exchange 5.5 and as most of you we
 receive a 
  lot of spam in the company. My company does not
 want to buy 
  any spam sofware as it cost a lot of money. Is
 there anything 
  built into exchange that will help reduce the
 spam? Is there 
  anything that could be done on the Outlook Client
 that will 
  reduce the spam?
  We are also running GroupShield. 
  
  TIA
  
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AW: Recipient Policy

2003-06-25 Thread Brachvogel, Till (extern)
Rgearding the fax proxy address: We had similar problems, but you don't have
to remove the custom addresses.
If you look in the event log, an error is generated by ExchangeSA which
states that a dll couldn't be found in the appropriate directory (path is
given in the event). That means that RUS isn't running.
If you just copy that dll from your fax software into that directory the RUS
on this server will run again. Alas, you have to do that for every RUS and
every fax software installed in the forrest even if the fax software is only
installed in one domain. After that RUS started to stamp new mailuser again.

See also: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283134

Additionally to the question wether RUS runs or not, have a look at
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;246127. That info
may help.

Hope that helps,
Till

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 16:41
An: Exchange Discussions
Betreff: RE: Recipient Policy


You didn't happen to install any fax software lately on your exchange
server have you?  I had the exact same problem where I had to remove the
Fax custom address type.


-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Thanks everyone.  Looks like I have a phone call to make.  

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


You can turn up diagnostic logging on the MSExchangeAL service and it
might reveal some problems.  The RUS is so secretive that you might just
want to call PSS and get them to step you through stuff.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick
Scribner
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


We have a TON of disabled user accounts out there with mailboxes.!!  I
bet that is the issue!

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


I experienced this issue where there was a mailbox associated with a
disabled user account object... Is that the case here?

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At:
Monday, June 23, 2003 3:44 PM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Recipient Policy
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Not for the new accounts that aren't replicating.  But I do see this
error
in there.

Failed to read attribute msExchUserAccountControl from Active Directory
for
/o=Westwood/ou=First Administrative Group/cn=Recipients/cn=dcook. 
Event ID 9562 which I've looked for in Technet and don't see anything
for.


 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Is there anything in the event log?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick
Scribner
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating --


When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It
seems
that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the
default
policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the recipient
update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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RE: Closing Outlook doesn't kill process - no pocket pc and will go back and apply service packs.

2003-06-25 Thread Slinger, Gary
Let me think of an appropriate response: get stuffed.  Your analogy is
inane and irrelevant.

I'm describing a real-world situation - he's lost the server a couple of
times; he's never lost data.  Why should he spend the extra cash for a
backup solution that he wouldn't use? [1]

[1] Disclaimer: He burns data files to CD-R  CD-RW at appropriate
intervals.  Mail that is contractual in nature tends to end up in paper
files; he uses Exchange as an MTA and a calendar tool, not as a document and
data repository.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:20
To: Exchange Discussions

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, at 3:04pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 He doesn't take daily backups, and is fully aware that if there's a 
 problem, to copy the OST's to PST's, etc.  He's never lost a single 
 piece of data.

  ... and I know people who don't ware their seatbelts because they've
never been in an accident.

--
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RE: Closing Outlook doesn't kill process - no pocket pc and will go back and apply service packs.

2003-06-25 Thread Christopher Hummert
Does he have ActiveSync installed? I've had this problem before but I
never had offline folders enabled, the only thing that solved it was a
complete reinstall of the system

-Chris

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slinger, Gary
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Closing Outlook doesn't kill process - no pocket pc and
will go back and apply service packs.


If the machine isn't a laptop, there's no real reason for Offline
Folders anyway

Disagree.  All of my power users where I am now, and every other
customer job I've worked on, has OST's setup for desktops.  Allows a
server to be pulled with less impact on them (it does happen from time
to time...). Hell, I have one guy that's still running Exchange 5.0,
with circular logging enabled - full OST's on five clients, and a static
backup of the server.  He doesn't take daily backups, and is fully aware
that if there's a problem, to copy the OST's to PST's, etc.  He's never
lost a single piece of data.


-Original Message-
From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 09:09
To: Exchange Discussions

You said that the user has offline folders enabled?  Has synchronization
finished properly?  The OST file may have become corrupt which is
causing background synch to hang the Outlook process.  Does disabling
offline folders fix the problem?  If the machine isn't a laptop, there's
no real reason for Offline Folders anyway (at least not until OL2k3's
cached Exchange or Local Store mode)

Joe Pochedley
If you have time to do it twice,
you had time to do it right in
the first place.


-Original Message-
From: Michael Wade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Closing Outlook doesn't kill process - no pocket pc and
will go back and apply service packs.


I know the whole setup is a nightmare.  If I had my way I would slick
the thing and start it from scratch.  I just have my hands full with
this job as it is... I will get back in touch with you guys after I look
at it in a day or two. 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 2:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Closing Outlook doesn't kill process

I didn't know you could upgrade from Me to W2k.
Anyhoo, Office 2000 with Outlook 2002 sounds like a bad mix to me. Have
you applied all the latest office service packs?


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:48 PM
Subject: Closing Outlook doesn't kill process


I've got a client using a laptop that was upgraded to Win2K from WinME.
They are using Outlook2002 and also have Office 2000 Premium installed.
They are also connected to an Exchange 2000 SBS with offline folders
enabled for their mailbox and calendar.  When starting the system up and
starting Outlook everything is fine.  However if you quit Outlook and
try and start it later the hourglass will run for a moment and then
nothing will happen. I have discovered that after quitting Outlook the
outlook.exe process stays listed in task manager's process list, and
that killing this process will allow the subsequent instances of Outlook
to run.  I have already attempted a repair but this had no effect.  I
was hoping for some input from you guys and gals before I start
uninstalling everything on their machine.

Thanks in advance,

Michael Wade
ICQ: 4927289


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RE: Recipient Policy

2003-06-25 Thread Presley, Steven
Patrick,

If you have not done so already, I would restart the SA on the box that
is hosting the RUS.  Typically this is where you will see any errors
that my relate to your problem (when the RUS is initialized), but only
when the SA starts (even with the default logging).  Turning up the
MSExchangeAL logging will (should) spit out a TON of events in the app
log, so be ready to do some filtering and even change the size of you
app log to a larger size (as not to miss any errors).  

-Steve

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


No but we did install Symantic Antivirus/filter for Exchange on the box
about a month ago and just noticed this happening a couple weeks ago.

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


You didn't happen to install any fax software lately on your exchange
server have you?  I had the exact same problem where I had to remove the
Fax custom address type.


-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Thanks everyone.  Looks like I have a phone call to make.  

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


You can turn up diagnostic logging on the MSExchangeAL service and it
might reveal some problems.  The RUS is so secretive that you might just
want to call PSS and get them to step you through stuff.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick
Scribner
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


We have a TON of disabled user accounts out there with mailboxes.!!  I
bet that is the issue!

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


I experienced this issue where there was a mailbox associated with a
disabled user account object... Is that the case here?

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At:
Monday, June 23, 2003 3:44 PM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Recipient Policy
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Not for the new accounts that aren't replicating.  But I do see this
error
in there.

Failed to read attribute msExchUserAccountControl from Active Directory
for
/o=Westwood/ou=First Administrative Group/cn=Recipients/cn=dcook. 

Event ID 9562 which I've looked for in Technet and don't see anything
for.


 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Is there anything in the event log?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick
Scribner
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating --


When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It
seems
that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the
default
policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the recipient
update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
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RE: how to cut down on spam

2003-06-25 Thread Durkee, Peter
There are a couple of free Bayesian spam filters that work with Outlook in an Exchange 
environment, Spammunition and SpamBayes. They're both beta at this point so they're 
kind of flakey, but Spammunition, the one I'm using right now, is quite effective. If 
you have individuals who are really getting hammered and need immediate relief, one or 
the other may help.

-Peter


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From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam


Has anyone heard or used the surf control product. It
seems much more expensive than logstat ISP or XWALL.
Can anyone mention any differences? We definitely
don't want to block real customers from sending us
email--just the spam.
--- Freddie Soerensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Maybe you want to take a look at this :
 http://www.logsat.com/SpamFilter/default.asp
 
  
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 versa. 
  
 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 23:38
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Hi all...
  
  We are running Exchange 5.5 and as most of you we
 receive a 
  lot of spam in the company. My company does not
 want to buy 
  any spam sofware as it cost a lot of money. Is
 there anything 
  built into exchange that will help reduce the
 spam? Is there 
  anything that could be done on the Outlook Client
 that will 
  reduce the spam?
  We are also running GroupShield. 
  
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RE: how to cut down on spam

2003-06-25 Thread Dave Vantine
Can you elaborate flakey? They are hit or miss on filtering or the crash
Outlook

-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam


There are a couple of free Bayesian spam filters that work with Outlook in
an Exchange environment, Spammunition and SpamBayes. They're both beta at
this point so they're kind of flakey, but Spammunition, the one I'm using
right now, is quite effective. If you have individuals who are really
getting hammered and need immediate relief, one or the other may help.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam


Has anyone heard or used the surf control product. It
seems much more expensive than logstat ISP or XWALL.
Can anyone mention any differences? We definitely
don't want to block real customers from sending us
email--just the spam.
--- Freddie Soerensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Maybe you want to take a look at this : 
 http://www.logsat.com/SpamFilter/default.asp
 
  
 It is easier to change the specification to fit the
 program than vice
 versa. 
  
 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 23:38
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Hi all...
  
  We are running Exchange 5.5 and as most of you we
 receive a
  lot of spam in the company. My company does not
 want to buy
  any spam sofware as it cost a lot of money. Is
 there anything
  built into exchange that will help reduce the
 spam? Is there
  anything that could be done on the Outlook Client
 that will
  reduce the spam?
  We are also running GroupShield.
  
  TIA
  
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RE: how to cut down on spam

2003-06-25 Thread Durkee, Peter
Spammunition filters very well, though you have to maintain a good collection of spam 
for it to use in building its rules. It just pops up error screens every once in a 
while. It also doesn't deal well with Inboxes containing lots of unread messages, as 
it rescans all of them whenever something new comes in, increasing the frequency of 
the aforementioned error screens. 

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam


Can you elaborate flakey? They are hit or miss on filtering or the crash
Outlook

-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam


There are a couple of free Bayesian spam filters that work with Outlook in
an Exchange environment, Spammunition and SpamBayes. They're both beta at
this point so they're kind of flakey, but Spammunition, the one I'm using
right now, is quite effective. If you have individuals who are really
getting hammered and need immediate relief, one or the other may help.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam


Has anyone heard or used the surf control product. It
seems much more expensive than logstat ISP or XWALL.
Can anyone mention any differences? We definitely
don't want to block real customers from sending us
email--just the spam.
--- Freddie Soerensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Maybe you want to take a look at this : 
 http://www.logsat.com/SpamFilter/default.asp
 
  
 It is easier to change the specification to fit the
 program than vice
 versa. 
  
 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 23:38
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Hi all...
  
  We are running Exchange 5.5 and as most of you we
 receive a
  lot of spam in the company. My company does not
 want to buy
  any spam sofware as it cost a lot of money. Is
 there anything
  built into exchange that will help reduce the
 spam? Is there
  anything that could be done on the Outlook Client
 that will
  reduce the spam?
  We are also running GroupShield.
  
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RE: how to cut down on spam

2003-06-25 Thread Bailey, Matthew
We use the Surf Control product and have great success with it.  It
(along with a lot of other products) allows us to use Reverse DNS
lookups and RBL lookups against incomming e-mail to block a lot of spam
before it even gets through the door.  After it makes it through those
checks they have a nice Anti-Spam agent that is updated nightly.  In
addition, you can do dictionary checks to further eliminate spam and
unwanted content.  It also gives you the flexibility to setup allow
rules to prevent known good domains from being submitted against the
anti-spam filters.  It took a few weeks to tune all the filters but
since then it runs very well.

- Matt

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 From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam
 
 
 Has anyone heard or used the surf control product. It
 seems much more expensive than logstat ISP or XWALL.
 Can anyone mention any differences? We definitely
 don't want to block real customers from sending us
 email--just the spam.
 --- Freddie Soerensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Maybe you want to take a look at this :
  http://www.logsat.com/SpamFilter/default.asp
  
   
  It is easier to change the specification to fit the
  program than vice
  versa. 
   
  
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 23:38
   To: Exchange Discussions
   
   Hi all...
   
   We are running Exchange 5.5 and as most of you we
  receive a 
   lot of spam in the company. My company does not
  want to buy 
   any spam sofware as it cost a lot of money. Is
  there anything 
   built into exchange that will help reduce the
  spam? Is there 
   anything that could be done on the Outlook Client
  that will 
   reduce the spam?
   We are also running GroupShield. 
   
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Exchange 5.5 IMS vs. Windows 2000 SMTP

2003-06-25 Thread Nizar El-Assaad
Hello

I have an Exchange 5.5 server configured to send internet messages using
DNS, except for a couple of domains, that are configured to be forwarded
to a relay host instead (the configuration is done in Exchange 5.5 IMS).
Now, I have put my Exchange server behind a firewall and configured it
to forward all messages to a mail relay host in the DMZ. The mail relay
is using the simple Windows 2000 SMTP service. Is it possible to do the
same configuration for the Windows 2000 SMTP service (i.e. use DNS to
deliver messages except for some domains)? If not, is it possible for
Windows 2000 SMTP to forward all mail to a relay server instead of using
DNS to deliver them? Thank you for the precious help.

Best Regards
Nizar El-Assaad


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RE: how to cut down on spam

2003-06-25 Thread Marty Gavin
CloudMark's SpamNet is another good client-side filter.
http://www.cloudmark.com/products/spamnet/

Of course, having all of your users' e-mail addresses posted on your web
site doesn't help matters.  ;o)

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From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: how to cut down on spam


Hi all...

We are running Exchange 5.5 and as most of you we
receive a lot of spam in the company. My company does
not want to buy any spam sofware as it cost a lot of
money. Is there anything built into exchange that will
help reduce the spam? Is there anything that could be
done on the Outlook Client that will reduce the spam?
We are also running GroupShield. 

TIA

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RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note

2003-06-25 Thread Beavers, Terry
Seriously, Siegfried, Andy, at least half the time I access the PFs (of
which I am owner) using OL2002 I get a logon prompt box in which I enter
my same logon credentials (THREE times because it rejects them each
time) and then goes ahead and let's me in the PF with appropriate
access.

Yes, I know the scripts should be rewritten.

Terry L. Beavers
Technology Assessment  Application
Information Technologies
University of South Florida
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RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note

2003-06-25 Thread Beavers, Terry
Jeez, how is that an upside?

After we spent the resources to develop this stuff to make it work right
during the 5.5 era, now we're told to rewrite everything. So where does
this leave us?

In another 2 years, given Microsoft's penchant for change, none of it
will work with Yukon and here we are again. Yes this is great for system
integrators, consultants, etc. but we can't just charge our customers
(students) more money to cover all these redevelopment costs.

I won't argue about the fact that maybe the scripts should be updated.
But that would be a lot of work. And in these times of tight budgets and
layoffs (my team has less than HALF the staff we had this time last year
but several new major development projects), it doesn't get a chance to
boil up in the priority lists and instead becomes  a major pain in the
derriere and another reason for people to question Microsoft's
customer/developer commitment. This is a major problem in an environment
(academic) where you have to sell Microsoft to management and users as a
server environment (as you know, the sun never stops shining in
academia, if you know what I mean)

I know, not your problem. We have the same issue with Peoplesoft (at
least their backward compatibility is somewhat better, though) and who
knows what oracle will do with that.


Terry L. Beavers
Technology Assessment  Application
Information Technologies
University of South Florida
Tampa,  Florida


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 1:40 AM
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 Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
 
 
 Well, then at least there's some room for improvement with 
 the server side code.  That's an upside I suppose. :)
 

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RE: Exchange 5.5 IMS vs. Windows 2000 SMTP

2003-06-25 Thread Andrew Chan
Yes.  All you need to do is to set different remote domains under the
SMTP virtual server.  Be careful, though, do NOT check the allow
incoming mail to be relayed to this domain for domains that you are not
receiving mail for.

Andrew
MCSE (w2k/nt4) + CCNA

 -Original Message-
 From: Nizar El-Assaad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Posted At: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:04 AM
 Posted To: ExchangeDiscussion
 Conversation: Exchange 5.5 IMS vs. Windows 2000 SMTP
 Subject: Exchange 5.5 IMS vs. Windows 2000 SMTP


 Hello

 I have an Exchange 5.5 server configured to send internet
 messages using DNS, except for a couple of domains, that are
 configured to be forwarded to a relay host instead (the
 configuration is done in Exchange 5.5 IMS). Now, I have put
 my Exchange server behind a firewall and configured it to
 forward all messages to a mail relay host in the DMZ. The
 mail relay is using the simple Windows 2000 SMTP service. Is
 it possible to do the same configuration for the Windows 2000
 SMTP service (i.e. use DNS to deliver messages except for
 some domains)? If not, is it possible for Windows 2000 SMTP
 to forward all mail to a relay server instead of using DNS to
 deliver them? Thank you for the precious help.

 Best Regards
 Nizar El-Assaad


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AutoDL Upgrade

2003-06-25 Thread Hutchins, Mike
Ok, so I am a little confused now...

In the AutoDL 2.1 upgrade it says:

Next, run the install program that came with this readme file.
This will install the files needed to create the website, COM+
application, and services.  It will also have the scripts
needed to upgrade the existing AutoDL 2.0 database

Yet, there isn't an install program.

Any thoughts?

Mike



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RE: how to cut down on spam

2003-06-25 Thread henrys
Spamassassin is an open source solution that works very well in front of
your Exchange Server. Runs best on RH7.3.

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Subject: how to cut down on spam


Hi all...

We are running Exchange 5.5 and as most of you we
receive a lot of spam in the company. My company does
not want to buy any spam sofware as it cost a lot of
money. Is there anything built into exchange that will
help reduce the spam? Is there anything that could be
done on the Outlook Client that will reduce the spam?
We are also running GroupShield.

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Synchronizing Public Folders between organizations

2003-06-25 Thread Filipe Joel de Almeida


Filipe Joel de Almeida
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Hello List Gurus,

I'm having the following problem, We've got two AD structures completely
independent (2 Forests). Each of them has an Exchange server with mailboxes
and Public Folders. Just now the Administrators decided they wanted the
Public Folders synchronized between the servers.

Is there any way to do this? If so, how?

Thanks in advance,

Filipe Joel de Almeida


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RE: Synchronizing Public Folders between organizations

2003-06-25 Thread Ed Crowley
Check out the Interorg Replication Utility.  I believe it ships with the
Resource Kit, but it could be on the CD.  Don't remember.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
One man's Spam is another man's UCE.


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Filipe Joel de Almeida
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Hello List Gurus,

I'm having the following problem, We've got two AD structures completely
independent (2 Forests). Each of them has an Exchange server with mailboxes
and Public Folders. Just now the Administrators decided they wanted the
Public Folders synchronized between the servers.

Is there any way to do this? If so, how?

Thanks in advance,

Filipe Joel de Almeida


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RE: how to cut down on spam

2003-06-25 Thread Michael Erdely
Runs VERY well on OpenBSD 3.3 with sendmail using mimedefang for its milter.

-ME

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Spamassassin is an open source solution that works very well in front of
your Exchange Server. Runs best on RH7.3.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tigue Williams
Sent: June 24, 2003 5:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: how to cut down on spam


Hi all...

We are running Exchange 5.5 and as most of you we
receive a lot of spam in the company. My company does
not want to buy any spam sofware as it cost a lot of
money. Is there anything built into exchange that will
help reduce the spam? Is there anything that could be
done on the Outlook Client that will reduce the spam?
We are also running GroupShield.

TIA

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RE: Enabling LDAP in Exchange 5.5

2003-06-25 Thread Ed Crowley
Change the application so that it authenticates or enable anonymous
authentication for LDAP. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanjeev Sharma
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Thanks Ed, Here is what we are trying to achieve.  We are implementing a
customized application developed by a third party which has some Exchange
integration feature that uses LDAP protocol to retrieve user information
through GAL.

We are running Exchange 5.5 at our site and we have LDAP enabled with the
default settings. To find out if an email client can talk to the server
using LDAP, I have created a new mailbox on Exchange server and gave ADMIN
permissions under Configuration-Protocol-LDAP-Permissions and try to
connect to it via Outlook client using LDAP but I get the following error
message Failed to connect to 'Name of our Exchange server' due to invalid
authentication. Ensure a valid user name and password has been entered on
the Microsoft LDAP configuration page for the Name of the Exchange server
account.

Additionally If I go to the Protocols tab of the new mailbox I just created,
I see that the Recipient  Server enabled for LDAP but the settings options
are NONE whereas it is defaults for IMAP4  POP3.

How can I make the LDAP to work for this new application on Exchange 5.5?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks...

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 6:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Enabling LDAP for Exchange 5.5

LDAP should be enabled in Exchange 5.5 by default.  Someone might be able to
help you further if you explain what you've tried to do and the results
you've gotten.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Can I enable LDAP on Exchange 5.5?  How can I go about it implementing it? I
would greatly appreciate any help.  Thanks...

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RE: Public folders problem with 5.5 upgrade

2003-06-25 Thread Ed Crowley
How long have you waited?

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Helping others with Exchange for over a twentieth of a century.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlovits, John
[JM1]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I'm trying to rehome my public folders from 5.5 to 2k. I've changed the home
site and added the 2000 server to the replication list, and also have a ADC
for public folders. I can see the folders on the 2000 server, the folders
are in AD, but they don't have anything in them.
In ESM the folder size and item list is 0, and they are not accessible from
Outlook.
I've checked the public store has an proxyaddress listed in adsiedit.
The servers are in the same site both in exchange and physically, and the
folders are less than a meg.
How do I get this moved over?

Thanks
John




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RE: Public folders problem with 5.5 upgrade

2003-06-25 Thread Marlovits, John [JM1]
days

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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:44 PM
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Subject: RE: Public folders problem with 5.5 upgrade


How long have you waited?

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Helping others with Exchange for over a twentieth of a century.

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[JM1]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I'm trying to rehome my public folders from 5.5 to 2k. I've changed the
home site and added the 2000 server to the replication list, and also
have a ADC for public folders. I can see the folders on the 2000 server,
the folders are in AD, but they don't have anything in them. In ESM the
folder size and item list is 0, and they are not accessible from
Outlook. I've checked the public store has an proxyaddress listed in
adsiedit. The servers are in the same site both in exchange and
physically, and the folders are less than a meg. How do I get this moved
over?

Thanks
John




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RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note

2003-06-25 Thread Webb, Andy
Terry,

I feel for you. I really do.

The lighthearted upside I meant was that rather than sorry, you're
screwed, there's no possible way to improve the situation, you at least
have an option available to you, however unpalatable it might be.

Public Folders are very likely to change again sometime in the future.
The Yukon implications are a complete unknown right now, but I'd gamble
that things from a development standpoint will not look the same.  At
TechEd, the Yukon version of Exchange was placed at 2006 at the soonest.
Given the conservative nature you folks have expressed about hotfixes,
I'm led to believe 2007+ might be the soonest you would go to that
platform.  Given a 4+ year window, getting your rules/event script stuff
changed to event sinks that can fire more reliably on all items does
seem like a possible path that makes financial sense.

Microsoft did end up leaving the 5.5 Event Script capability in Exchange
2003, which they had said at one point they would not do, so at least
some scant attention has been paid to backward compatibility.  In this
case, though it's healthy to be wary of hotfixes, I'd sure try it in the
lab and look to implement it if it helps the rules work better.

One of the problems I see is that while everyone I know says they have
public folder problems, few have actually made the necessary PSS calls
to make them get the right amount of attention from the Exchange team.
With the release of the hotfix that changes the default to IPM.Note,
it's obvious that some threshold of documented pain was reached.  I
filed a bug on this during the Exchange 2000 JDP during Beta 2.  I filed
it again on Exchange 2003.  And I will keep telling Microsoft what I
need and what I perceive others need from Public Folders.  It's obvious
what influence I carry though. :)

I think the permissions problems are worthy of further discussion.  It
sounds to me like there is more than one issue.  Is that correct?  Do
you have problems both simply accessing the public folders and also
accessing the public folder rights?

Cheers,
Andy




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-Original Message-
From: Beavers, Terry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:59 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note

Jeez, how is that an upside?

After we spent the resources to develop this stuff to make it work right
during the 5.5 era, now we're told to rewrite everything. So where does
this leave us?

In another 2 years, given Microsoft's penchant for change, none of it
will work with Yukon and here we are again. Yes this is great for system
integrators, consultants, etc. but we can't just charge our customers
(students) more money to cover all these redevelopment costs.

I won't argue about the fact that maybe the scripts should be updated.
But that would be a lot of work. And in these times of tight budgets and
layoffs (my team has less than HALF the staff we had this time last year
but several new major development projects), it doesn't get a chance to
boil up in the priority lists and instead becomes  a major pain in the
derriere and another reason for people to question Microsoft's
customer/developer commitment. This is a major problem in an environment
(academic) where you have to sell Microsoft to management and users as a
server environment (as you know, the sun never stops shining in
academia, if you know what I mean)

I know, not your problem. We have the same issue with Peoplesoft (at
least their backward compatibility is somewhat better, though) and who
knows what oracle will do with that.


Terry L. Beavers
Technology Assessment  Application
Information Technologies
University of South Florida
Tampa,  Florida


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 Well, then at least there's some room for improvement with 
 the server side code.  That's an upside I suppose. :)
 

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RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note

2003-06-25 Thread Siegfried Weber
Three times? That reminds me... If you have the Exchange Server
scripting add-on enabled in Outlook, MAPI Outlook will open three
connections to the Exchange server (without the Exchange scraping
add-on, only two). One for each store (mailbox and public) and one to
the scripting system folder. I wonder if that is related to the general
problem.

I also saw similar issues back in 1998 when we had a network issue and
the RPC/NETBIOS calls failed. Changing the RPC binding order helped
these days but since the Outlook 2002 process to connect to an Exchange
server has changed I am not sure if the former issue might happen here
too.

 -Original Message-
 From: Beavers, Terry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:55 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
 
 
 Seriously, Siegfried, Andy, at least half the time I access 
 the PFs (of which I am owner) using OL2002 I get a logon 
 prompt box in which I enter my same logon credentials (THREE 
 times because it rejects them each
 time) and then goes ahead and let's me in the PF with 
 appropriate access.
 
 Yes, I know the scripts should be rewritten.
 
 Terry L. Beavers
 Technology Assessment  Application
 Information Technologies
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RE: how to cut down on spam

2003-06-25 Thread Steve Molkentin
Peter,

That said, the latest on the Spammunition website is to suggest he is
changing the logic so that there is no need to manually rescan.

I agree the errors are frustrating - but the product is not bad for free
for a client.

themolk.

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 Sent: Thursday, 26 June 2003 3:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam
 
 
 Spammunition filters very well, though you have to maintain a 
 good collection of spam for it to use in building its rules. 
 It just pops up error screens every once in a while. It also 
 doesn't deal well with Inboxes containing lots of unread 
 messages, as it rescans all of them whenever something new 
 comes in, increasing the frequency of the aforementioned 
 error screens. 
 
 -Peter
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:51
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam
 
 
 Can you elaborate flakey? They are hit or miss on filtering 
 or the crash Outlook
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam
 
 
 There are a couple of free Bayesian spam filters that work 
 with Outlook in an Exchange environment, Spammunition and 
 SpamBayes. They're both beta at this point so they're kind of 
 flakey, but Spammunition, the one I'm using right now, is 
 quite effective. If you have individuals who are really 
 getting hammered and need immediate relief, one or the other may help.
 
 -Peter
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:46
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam
 
 
 Has anyone heard or used the surf control product. It
 seems much more expensive than logstat ISP or XWALL.
 Can anyone mention any differences? We definitely
 don't want to block real customers from sending us
 email--just the spam.
 --- Freddie Soerensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Maybe you want to take a look at this :
  http://www.logsat.com/SpamFilter/default.asp
  
   
  It is easier to change the specification to fit the
  program than vice
  versa. 
   
  
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 23:38
   To: Exchange Discussions
   
   Hi all...
   
   We are running Exchange 5.5 and as most of you we
  receive a
   lot of spam in the company. My company does not
  want to buy
   any spam sofware as it cost a lot of money. Is
  there anything
   built into exchange that will help reduce the
  spam? Is there
   anything that could be done on the Outlook Client
  that will
   reduce the spam?
   We are also running GroupShield.
   
   TIA
   
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RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note

2003-06-25 Thread Siegfried Weber
See also Andy's comments. I really don't think it's in a 2 year
timeframe. I saw the first Yukon demo 2 years ago and the beta just
started now...

As for anything will change in the next version of Exchange Server: yes,
no doubts. Same happened in Windows 2003 IIS6 and Sharepoint Portal
Server 2003 already and other products will follow. SPS2003 is actually
a pretty good example to see which architecture we can except in
Exchange 2005 (or whatever it'll be named).

This is from a developer point of view the same hassle as from a
customer who is using that stuff, I agree completely with you on that.

However, I dare to ask myself if it is worth to stick with the old
technology and just live with restarting a hanging service (or to make
it worse: reboot the server) every now and then or probably jump into
the cold water and rewrite the stuff to finally get a more stable system
at all. 

I do understand that nowadays everyone (including my company) has small
budgets (can you say no budget?) and less resources to work with. But as
Andy said, if you plan to stick with the currently existing technology
(which makes totally sense from a business point of view and I would do
the same if working in your environment with that amount of
customers/students) I'd really consider to iron out one of the potential
showstoppers by migration the code base. I was really scared when I red
that you guys need to start the Exchange 2000 Event Service every now
and then. I know that it was never 100% reliable to use Exchange 5.5
Scripting agent technology (as you know too, I'm sure), hence now with
Windows 2000 SP4 and Exchange 2000 SP4 around the corner I'd say it is
safe to move forward and stick with it for the next 3-4 years as you did
with the Exchange 5.5 scripting stuff (I remember our first e-mail
contact back in 1999 and when we met at TechEd 2001). It seems to have
done it work for almost 6 years fairly well. So, it doesn't hurt to
retire it, or?

BTW, If you need any particular help I'd be happy to do so. I've a
gazillion of code snippets around I'd share with you guys to get you
started.

 -Original Message-
 From: Beavers, Terry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:59 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
 
 
 Jeez, how is that an upside?
 
 After we spent the resources to develop this stuff to make it 
 work right during the 5.5 era, now we're told to rewrite 
 everything. So where does this leave us?
 
 In another 2 years, given Microsoft's penchant for change, 
 none of it will work with Yukon and here we are again. Yes 
 this is great for system integrators, consultants, etc. but 
 we can't just charge our customers
 (students) more money to cover all these redevelopment costs.
 
 I won't argue about the fact that maybe the scripts should be 
 updated. But that would be a lot of work. And in these times 
 of tight budgets and layoffs (my team has less than HALF the 
 staff we had this time last year but several new major 
 development projects), it doesn't get a chance to boil up in 
 the priority lists and instead becomes  a major pain in the 
 derriere and another reason for people to question 
 Microsoft's customer/developer commitment. This is a major 
 problem in an environment
 (academic) where you have to sell Microsoft to management and 
 users as a server environment (as you know, the sun never 
 stops shining in academia, if you know what I mean)
 
 I know, not your problem. We have the same issue with 
 Peoplesoft (at least their backward compatibility is somewhat 
 better, though) and who knows what oracle will do with that.
 
 
 Terry L. Beavers
 Technology Assessment  Application
 Information Technologies
 University of South Florida
 Tampa,  Florida
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 1:40 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
  
  
  Well, then at least there's some room for improvement with
  the server side code.  That's an upside I suppose. :)
  
 
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Not Open Relay, but...

2003-06-25 Thread Woods, Tony
Hello,

NT 4 SP6a and Exchange 5.5 SP4. Domain in question is DFG.com

I've just taken over a site's Exchange server and have noticed something
strange. It's been sometime since I had to play with Exchange this deep but
the Queues on my IMS keep filling up with 1000's of emails. We're not an
Open Relay that I can tell (I've tested) but there's just a ton of 'Outbound
Message Awaiting Delivery' with originator  and Destination Host of
different .com's. There is a ton of Inbound Mail Failures in the 'Admin'
mailbox for delivery failures as well. My three questions are:

1) Are these messages that are trying to relay but failing? 

2) If so, are they just going to sit in the Queue for the default time?

3) For the Inbound Mail Failures,  a lot of them are going to bogus
addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where are these all coming
from?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Tony

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RE: IQLinkXS vs AlarmPoint vs TelAlert

2003-06-25 Thread Ryan Finnesey
We use IQLinkXS with NetIQ AppManager and have been happy.  But I do
know there have been lots of cuts and tech support has gone down hill.


Ryan

-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: IQLinkXS vs AlarmPoint vs TelAlert

Hi all,

I was just wondering if anyone here had experience with these products.
I am
looking for opinions.

I am currently testing IQLinkXS - it seems to be a nice product. It
integrates with NetIQ and can have all kinds of on-call, rotation,
escalation paths and supports a variety of protocols

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RE: Not Open Relay, but...

2003-06-25 Thread John Strongosky
NDR's (non-delivery reports) from spammer's probably.

-Original Message-
From: Woods, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Not Open Relay, but...


Hello,

NT 4 SP6a and Exchange 5.5 SP4. Domain in question is DFG.com

I've just taken over a site's Exchange server and have noticed something
strange. It's been sometime since I had to play with Exchange this deep but
the Queues on my IMS keep filling up with 1000's of emails. We're not an
Open Relay that I can tell (I've tested) but there's just a ton of 'Outbound
Message Awaiting Delivery' with originator  and Destination Host of
different .com's. There is a ton of Inbound Mail Failures in the 'Admin'
mailbox for delivery failures as well. My three questions are:

1) Are these messages that are trying to relay but failing? 

2) If so, are they just going to sit in the Queue for the default time?

3) For the Inbound Mail Failures,  a lot of them are going to bogus
addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where are these all coming
from?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Tony

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RE: Not Open Relay, but...

2003-06-25 Thread Woods, Tony
Hi John,

Is this in response to my question #3? If so, does everyone receive over
2000 messages every hour in the 'Admin' mailbox with a subject line of
'Notification: Inbound Mail Failure? I understand getting some but over
2000 an hour? Each of these messages is addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
whatever. It's just random letters in front of the domain name @dfg.com and
there's just a ton of them. Thanks for any ideas, all.

Cheers,
Tony

-Original Message-
From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Not Open Relay, but...


NDR's (non-delivery reports) from spammer's probably.

-Original Message-
From: Woods, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Not Open Relay, but...


Hello,

NT 4 SP6a and Exchange 5.5 SP4. Domain in question is DFG.com

I've just taken over a site's Exchange server and have noticed something
strange. It's been sometime since I had to play with Exchange this deep but
the Queues on my IMS keep filling up with 1000's of emails. We're not an
Open Relay that I can tell (I've tested) but there's just a ton of 'Outbound
Message Awaiting Delivery' with originator  and Destination Host of
different .com's. There is a ton of Inbound Mail Failures in the 'Admin'
mailbox for delivery failures as well. My three questions are:

1) Are these messages that are trying to relay but failing? 

2) If so, are they just going to sit in the Queue for the default time?

3) For the Inbound Mail Failures,  a lot of them are going to bogus
addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where are these all coming
from?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Tony

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Re: Not Open Relay, but...

2003-06-25 Thread Dave Mills
For #3, what you are seeing is spammer trying to find valid addresses
@dfg.com by simply guessing addresses and trying them, your best bet would
be to turn off the notification on your IMS for E-mail address could not be
found.  For #2, yes they will sit in the queue until they are delivered or
just time out.  For #1, are you sure you're not an open relay?  See
http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Preventing_Third_Party_Relaying_In_MS_Exchange_Server_55.html.

- Dave

- Original Message - 
From: Woods, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 5:00 PM
Subject: RE: Not Open Relay, but...


 Hi John,

 Is this in response to my question #3? If so, does everyone receive over
 2000 messages every hour in the 'Admin' mailbox with a subject line of
 'Notification: Inbound Mail Failure? I understand getting some but over
 2000 an hour? Each of these messages is addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
 whatever. It's just random letters in front of the domain name @dfg.com
and
 there's just a ton of them. Thanks for any ideas, all.

 Cheers,
 Tony

 -Original Message-
 From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:46 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Not Open Relay, but...


 NDR's (non-delivery reports) from spammer's probably.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woods, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:23 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Not Open Relay, but...


 Hello,

 NT 4 SP6a and Exchange 5.5 SP4. Domain in question is DFG.com

 I've just taken over a site's Exchange server and have noticed something
 strange. It's been sometime since I had to play with Exchange this deep
but
 the Queues on my IMS keep filling up with 1000's of emails. We're not an
 Open Relay that I can tell (I've tested) but there's just a ton of
'Outbound
 Message Awaiting Delivery' with originator  and Destination Host of
 different .com's. There is a ton of Inbound Mail Failures in the 'Admin'
 mailbox for delivery failures as well. My three questions are:

 1) Are these messages that are trying to relay but failing?

 2) If so, are they just going to sit in the Queue for the default time?

 3) For the Inbound Mail Failures,  a lot of them are going to bogus
 addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where are these all coming
 from?

 Thanks in advance.

 Cheers,
 Tony

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RE: Public folders problem with 5.5 upgrade

2003-06-25 Thread Ed Crowley
Then something is keeping replication from happening.  How is public folder
replication schedule configured?

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Protecting the world from PSTs and bricked backups.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlovits, John
[JM1]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

days

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public folders problem with 5.5 upgrade


How long have you waited?

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Helping others with Exchange for over a twentieth of a century.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlovits, John
[JM1]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I'm trying to rehome my public folders from 5.5 to 2k. I've changed the
home site and added the 2000 server to the replication list, and also
have a ADC for public folders. I can see the folders on the 2000 server,
the folders are in AD, but they don't have anything in them. In ESM the
folder size and item list is 0, and they are not accessible from
Outlook. I've checked the public store has an proxyaddress listed in
adsiedit. The servers are in the same site both in exchange and
physically, and the folders are less than a meg. How do I get this moved
over?

Thanks
John




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RE: Not Open Relay, but...

2003-06-25 Thread Ed Crowley
1.  Probably not.  If your Exchange faces the Internet, it should reject the
relay attempt during the RCPT TO: command, so the messages won't be accepted
for delivery and therefore they won't be NDRed.
2.  Yes.
3.  If dfg.com is your domain then it's normal spam to automatically
generated addresses.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woods, Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Hello,

NT 4 SP6a and Exchange 5.5 SP4. Domain in question is DFG.com

I've just taken over a site's Exchange server and have noticed something
strange. It's been sometime since I had to play with Exchange this deep but
the Queues on my IMS keep filling up with 1000's of emails. We're not an
Open Relay that I can tell (I've tested) but there's just a ton of 'Outbound
Message Awaiting Delivery' with originator  and Destination Host of
different .com's. There is a ton of Inbound Mail Failures in the 'Admin'
mailbox for delivery failures as well. My three questions are:

1) Are these messages that are trying to relay but failing? 

2) If so, are they just going to sit in the Queue for the default time?

3) For the Inbound Mail Failures,  a lot of them are going to bogus
addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where are these all coming
from?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Tony

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