Did look at Lsoft but it is too pricey for my lot!
-Original Message-
From: Wehner, Paul (wehnerpl) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 September 2003 19:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mass Mailings
I second the LSoft recomendation.
Univ. of Cinci uses it and it's amazingly
I thought about the Blackberry too but my Blackberry is accurate and so is OWA but not
Outlook. Also my BES server is on a different server than the Exchange box that I am
on. We also have some people that don't have Blackberry's that are experiencing the
issues as well. Root cause is very
I use Listserv also, and I'm very happy with the product. The support is
simply excellent, also.
How much is outsourcing costing you? If money's tight and you want a
product that's got a decent installed base, look at Majordomo or Mailman
for the *n?x platforms.
On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies
about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps?
Thank you,
Mitchell D. Lawrence
**Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)**
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/exchange2000/maintain/optimize/e2kfront.asp
Note: User mailboxes cannot be stored on the front-end server.
-Original Message-
From: Chris Megginson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:33 PM
Posted
The vast majority of mine happen to be address mistakes. So I skim them.
If I find anything that gets my attention then I investigate.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lawrence,
Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 5:54 AM
To:
I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install.
Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group.
I do not want to use routing groups.
I only have one sever.
Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option?
If I have to reinstall, so be it. But I would rather
All Exchange servers are a member of a routing group. With only one
server you only have 1 routing group, so the server directly
communicates with all other servers in the routing group (e.g. itself).
-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday,
Why do you consider it dangerous? This is company hardware, company software and when
your hired it's made clear to not use this for personal use. I don't believe there
are any legal or ethical problems with reading anyone's e-mail if it originates on my
server.
Thanks,
Patrick Scribner,
I think that point is that it isn't for you to make that decision. Getting
it in writing from HR takes the potential for issues off of you.
As an example where I work if there is a request by a manager or another
employee to read ones email, it must be signed off on by the CEO and then
HR. I
And there usually is when Martin uses the bathroom.
- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:21 PM
Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages
I think that point is that it isn't for you
You have to have at least one routing group.
John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:59 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation:
Thank you Martin for clarifying what I meant.
The other day was a real rush and the message got sent before it was complete.
Patrick,
This is an area where you really need to CYA. The privacy laws in some areas of the
world are MUCH stricter than in others.
Consider:
Boss B asks to see Boss A's
Thank you for clarifying what you were saying. But I am following the high road here
and requesting that the CIO and HR both sign off on it.
Thanks,
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-464-2381
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Rachel
I can read Martin's email via his open relay.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages
I think that point is that it isn't for you to make
I only have one exchange server here at work, yet I do not have routing groups.
At least under the first admin group.
I have:
servers, connectors, and folders
At home I have:
Servers, routing groups, and folders.
Is this anywhere close to
Go to the properties of the organization (the top-most item in the ESM's
left pane) and change the settings to not display admin groups and
routing groups.
But why do you hate seeing the routing groups so much anyway?
Sincerely,
Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
It's not that.
I cannot send any mail out from the box. and the only difference I see between the non
working server, and the working server is that the non working server has routing
groups whereas the working one has connectors.
That is why I was looking at the routing groups issue.
John
You are focusing on a wrong issue. Don't get obsessed with routing
groups.
The real issue is most likely with DNS.
Is your Exchange server registered with Active Directory's DNS?
Is your DNS using root hints or forwarders to some other DNS servers?
Does your DNS have a DOT zone (zone name
If you can't send from the box, try running WinRoute and see information
that provides...
Thanks
Russell
-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routing Goups query
It's not
When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try to
delete them, I get the following error: The item could not be deleted. It
was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied. If I look at
their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
Are they over their quota? Did you try 'shift-delete'?
-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when
btw... there is no M drive.
-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
Are they over their quota? Did you try 'shift-delete'?
-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns
We used to have this problem with some mail that used custom forms...
The only way to delete the messages was by using SHIFT+Delete from
Outlook. Of course after we did away with that particular custom form,
haven't seen the problem since.
Joe Pochedley
Weiler's Law - Nothing is impossible for
Shift+Del does not work. It's like the messages just are not in the
database, though they show up in the client. They can't be opened, moved,
or deleted.
Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office
-Original Message-
From:
I've had this problem before too. For some reason a certain mail message gets
corrupt and cannot be opened or deleted. I use MDBVU32.EXE to pull out the
individual message. Be careful using it though. There is an option to delete a single
mail message. Read up on it so you don't accidentally
Hey Guys,
Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
Thanks,
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
Shift+Del does not work.
Any AV software on the server?
- Original Message -
From: Adam Berns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
Shift+Del does not work. It's like the messages just are not in the
Not in 5.5
- Original Message -
From: Paul kondilys [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:46 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
Hey Guys,
Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
Thanks,
Already went through that path, no luck...
Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re:
MCS has a tool to do that I believe.
-Original Message-
From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
Hey Guys,
Does anyone know if you can
So you disabled it and you still couldnt delete the emails?
What AV software are you using? It wouldnt hurt to temporarily disable it
on the client as well.
Its at least worth a try.
- Original Message -
From: Adam Berns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Agreed. Also see if you can delete the message in OWA.
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
So you disabled it and you still couldnt delete the emails?
Been there, done that, disabled A/V on the server and the client.
Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Exchange
I'm telling you, MDBVU32 will suck it right out. It's a MSFT utility, I think it comes
on the Exchange disk. It would be nice to know what caused it, but this will get rid
of it.
Robert Blomquist
Supervisor of Information Technology
Sabic Americas, Inc.
713) 532-4999
-Original
Try uninstalling the AV software.
-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:06 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
Been there, done that, disabled A/V on the server
Have you tried dragging and dropping the messages into the deleted items
folder? Ive done that before and it worked for me.
btw... there is no M drive.
-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE:
Or maybe with a Pop3/Imap client.
- Original Message -
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
Agreed. Also see if you can delete the message in OWA.
Im taking bets what vendor he is using.
- Original Message -
From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
Try uninstalling the AV software.
-Original Message-
O
You can use exmerge to remove the message from the store. There are very
good directions that are included, and it will let you specify pretty
specifically which mail to delete from the store. I had to do this several
times, and the tool works great.
Yea. I know.
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
Im taking bets what vendor he is using.
- Original Message -
From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL
Did you reboot after disabling the AV services on the server? Try that.
You may have to uninstall the AV. BTW, which AV is on the server?
-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE:
lol.. no need.
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:10 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
Im taking bets what vendor he is using.
- Original Message
You don't.
Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
-Original Message-
From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
Hey
I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
security, but what does that really help?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
Maybe a new SMTP banner prevents thread hijacking...
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
I never really understand why people want to
I agree with you, I wouldn't change it either. I'm just giving an
alternative.
I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
security, but what does that really help?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September
Reason is I'm running AD, and my exchange server is showing up on a .local
domainand it's upsetting some other e-mail admins out there
So I was wondering if you can change the banner to display that the e-mail
server is really exchsvr1.mydomain.com ??
Thanks
-Original Message-
Oh heck,you see mail servers all the time whose greeting name doesnt match
their host name. Thats what you are referring to yes?
I suspect most mail servers will not reject mail because of that.
You will need to use some sort of relay to accomplish that with 5.5 or as
Chris mentioned, I guess you
I really don't have a problem with it actually...but you had to see this one
e-mail admin
He started e-mailing excerpts from the RFC's rules and guidelines on SMTP
regulations and stuffand he even sent it to my CIO
Just wondering if it could be done, or just wait till we go to exchange
Does anyone know where MEC is this year?
- Original Message -
From: Erik Sojka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:15 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
Maybe a new SMTP banner prevents thread hijacking...
You only question you should be asking is will there be enough toilets.
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
Does anyone know where MEC is this year?
Remind your CIO that the mere fact you are using Exchange probably violates
a dozen RFCs as it is.
- Original Message -
From: Paul kondilys [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
I
Good one
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
Remind your CIO that the mere fact you are using Exchange probably violates
a dozen RFCs as it is.
-
Maybe I'm missing something here but I'm going to answer anyway. Microsoft
is no longer holding MEC conferences, they have integrated it with
Tech-ED, however, there is a separate Exchange Conference in which you can
participate:
http://www.devconnections.com/exc/
Have fun.
Does anyone know
Yeah, so I was thinking about what RFCs might be violated when I saw
your initial post... I'm not sure that any are violated by your SMTP
banner saying whatever the heck you want it to say There might be an
RFC that's violated y you saying helo foo.invalid.domain.com in an SMTP
conversation,
Mayberry RFC
-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
Yeah, so I was thinking about what RFCs might be violated when I saw
your initial post... I'm not sure
And in 5.5 IIRC this is built from the DNS suffix of the Exchange
server. I'm going to assume this is 5.5 on W2K and I believe that simply
by going to my computer | computer name | change | more - you can change
the DNS name to be whatever externally valid one you'd like.
But I'm going to go out
Wag:
Maybe RFC2821 4.3.1 ?
Though I dont see where is says the greeting name MUST match the hostname.
- Original Message -
From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:47 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
Do you use Outlook?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
Maybe I'm missing something here but I'm going to answer
anyway. Microsoft
is no
What's the best AV software?
-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:01 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
Do you use Outlook?
-Original Message-
Any one of these get you going in the right direction?
(I am betting it's this first one)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817886
817886 - Error Message: Some Items Could Not Be Deleted. They Were Either
Moved or Already Deleted, or Access Was Denied.
I get this error all
Did we ever get an answer on what AV product it was?
-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
Any one of these get you going in the right direction?
Hello,
FWIW, the newly released E2K post-SP3 Roll-up fix has been working fine
on a production techie server for over a day now.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;813840
E2K: Native, Scanmail 6.1
OS: w2K, SP3 + all critical fixes , native
OUTLOOK/MAPI, OWA, POP, IMAP
What is the best method for migrating from Mailbox to Mailbox sever?
Exmerge, E2K migration tool?
Eric
_
List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Web Interface:
I vote that it's Groupshield, and suggest he try exmerging the message out before
heading off to the smtp banner changing seminar at MEC.
-Peter
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 14:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Sorry, management thinks meetings are necessary for some reason...
I've seen all of those, and even rolled up SPs, but that did not fix it, I
will try the exmerge thing., if that does not work, time to do it the hard
way.
Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software
Problem Solved:
Deleted the mailbox, and then re-created it...
Sometimes the simple way is the last one to come to mind...
Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office
-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns
Sent: Thursday, September
Recreating the mailbox is the last resort for me.
Please tell us what AV software you are using. We gots to know.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Berns
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:
Okay, I'm still looking through the archives and stuff, but it's late, so I'll post
this before I call it a night.
Client has a server that suddenly shuts down.
I reboot and troubleshoot, to find literally TENS OF THOUSANDS of items in the badmail
folder. All dated within the last two or
Wasn't it released in March?
-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK
Hello,
FWIW, the newly released E2K post-SP3 Roll-up fix has been working fine
Those aren't relay failures, there's nothing to fix. They are (exclusively I
think) tests for other mail servers which at one point used to incorrectly
relay mail formatted like that. Exchange does not. My server 'fails' the
same tests. If you crank up logging on the SMTP conversation what
Back to the email sent on Tuesday.
September 2003 Exchange 2000 Server Post-Service Pack 3 Rollup
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;824282
Jeff
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hutchins, Mike
Posted At: Thursday,
Ok, I am a little sleepy, my bad. :-/
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK
Back to the email sent on Tuesday.
September 2003 Exchange 2000
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