Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-16 Thread Lorne
On Friday 14 February 2003 10:03 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 08:31, Lorne wrote: On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:25 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: Don't really know what my level is... I just send em some every month. (silver standard something like that.) Any who the

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-14 Thread Lorne
On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:07 pm, Jack Coates wrote: On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 20:58, Lorne wrote: On Thursday 13 February 2003 04:13 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: _ _ Want to buy your Pack or Services from

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-14 Thread Lorne
On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:25 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: Don't really know what my level is... I just send em some every month. (silver standard something like that.) Any who the link is http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=searchquery= and it's a 30 day

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-14 Thread Jack Coates
On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 08:26, Lorne wrote: ... did that for a long time and it was better than VMWare. However, I had to give the work laptop back when I changed jobs and had to minimize the number of computers overall when I moved (noise considerations, mainly). Still if you have more

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-14 Thread Todd Lyons
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lorne wrote on Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 08:28:42PM -0700 : Tried GNUCash yet? I liked it when I had use for something like that (I hate to manage money, I stay away from it when I can :) yea, about 6 months ago. It just didn't do it for me. I

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-14 Thread Lorne
On Friday 14 February 2003 10:15 am, Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 08:26, Lorne wrote: ... did that for a long time and it was better than VMWare. However, I had to give the work laptop back when I changed jobs and had to minimize the number of computers overall when I moved

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-14 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 08:31, Lorne wrote: On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:25 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: Don't really know what my level is... I just send em some every month. (silver standard something like that.) Any who the link is

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-14 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 08:31, Lorne wrote: On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:25 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: Don't really know what my level is... I just send em some every month. (silver standard something like that.) Any who the link is

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-14 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 08:31, Lorne wrote: On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:25 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: Don't really know what my level is... I just send em some every month. (silver standard something like that.) Any who the link is

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-13 Thread Lorne
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 10:52 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: Any chance you have Microsoft money working? Codeweaver couldn't make it work.. If I could get either Microsoft money working or find a simple money manager for linux I liked, I'd be 98% free of microsoft. At home

RE: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-13 Thread Robert Wideman
Yea, I just didn't like the look and feel. I tried it. I even imported all my data and worked with it for awhile. Old habits die hard I guess. :) Ah, ye, it looks a little Winbloz 3.1 to me. Its supposedly the best one for linux. You might try using Quicken under Wine. Rob Want to buy

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 2:52 am, Lorne wrote: On Wednesday 12 February 2003 10:11 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 09:50 pm, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 12:21 am, James Sparenberg wrote: I run Win4Lin 4 here. Just curious.. what can't you get running?

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 18:52, Lorne wrote: On Wednesday 12 February 2003 10:11 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 09:50 pm, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 12:21 am, James Sparenberg wrote: I run Win4Lin 4 here. Just curious.. what can't you get running? I

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-13 Thread Lorne
On Thursday 13 February 2003 11:45 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Wow! Thank you very much! Very well written. I was getting ready to lament that it didn't compare it against VMWARE, but he does at the end. I just wish that these guys would do some sort of product you could try before you buy.

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-13 Thread Lorne
On Thursday 13 February 2003 04:13 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Win4lin and VmWare both have trial versions available through the

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-13 Thread Jack Coates
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 20:58, Lorne wrote: On Thursday 13 February 2003 04:13 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Win4lin and

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 21:07, Jack Coates wrote: On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 20:58, Lorne wrote: On Thursday 13 February 2003 04:13 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 20:28, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 08:31 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 19:25, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 18:50, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 12:21 am, James Sparenberg wrote: I run Win4Lin 4 here.

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-12 Thread Vahur Lokk
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 05:25, you wrote: Have you tried Kmoney or sqlLedger? There is also FreeMoney (I like the name) and EuroBudget. For just a really nice Check book style accounting system I like CBB (Check Book Balancer) Do not know about the others (I am Gnucash user myself)

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-12 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 09:50 pm, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 12:21 am, James Sparenberg wrote: I run Win4Lin 4 here. Just curious.. what can't you get running? I use it mostly for the occasional doc that OOo can't open as well as PSP and DreamWeaver. Any chance you

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-12 Thread Lorne
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 10:11 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 09:50 pm, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 12:21 am, James Sparenberg wrote: I run Win4Lin 4 here. Just curious.. what can't you get running? I use it mostly for the occasional doc that

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-12 Thread Lorne
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 01:19 am, Vahur Lokk wrote: On Wednesday 12 February 2003 05:25, you wrote: Have you tried Kmoney or sqlLedger? There is also FreeMoney (I like the name) and EuroBudget. For just a really nice Check book style accounting system I like CBB (Check Book

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-12 Thread Lorne
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 01:00 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 20:28, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 08:31 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 19:25, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 18:50, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 11

RE: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-12 Thread Robert Wideman
Any chance you have Microsoft money working? Codeweaver couldn't make it work.. If I could get either Microsoft money working or find a simple money manager for linux I liked, I'd be 98% free of microsoft. At home anyways. Have you looked at GnuCash??? Rob Want to buy your Pack

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-11 Thread Vincent Danen
On Sun Feb 09, 2003 at 05:09:06PM -0600, Vox wrote: succession without a burp. Very odd. I usually find cooker to be quite stable, but I tend to go this cycle: install release version, wait until after cooker has settled down (gcc/glibc upgrades), track cooker during the beta period, do

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-11 Thread Vincent Danen
On Sun Feb 09, 2003 at 03:28:24PM -0800, Jack Coates wrote: I'll be setting up CVS so I can commit the entire /etc directory to CVS then on an upgrade I can do stuff like cvs co or cvs diff to find the differences. Should be an interesting project. I've always wanted to do that... I

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-11 Thread Vox
This time Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes daring and writes: On Sun Feb 09, 2003 at 05:09:06PM -0600, Vox wrote: succession without a burp. Very odd. I usually find cooker to be quite stable, but I tend to go this cycle: install release version, wait until after cooker has

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-11 Thread Lorne
On Monday 10 February 2003 09:48 pm, Jack Coates wrote: On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 20:41, Lorne wrote: On Monday 10 February 2003 03:19 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 10 Feb 2003 9:08 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 08 Feb 2003 5:10 am, Mark

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-11 Thread Lorne
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 12:21 am, James Sparenberg wrote: I run Win4Lin 4 here. Just curious.. what can't you get running? I use it mostly for the occasional doc that OOo can't open as well as PSP and DreamWeaver. Any chance you have Microsoft money working? Codeweaver couldn't make it

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-11 Thread Vox
This time Lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes daring and writes: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 12:21 am, James Sparenberg wrote: I run Win4Lin 4 here. Just curious.. what can't you get running? I use it mostly for the occasional doc that OOo can't open as well as PSP and DreamWeaver. Any

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-11 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 18:50, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 12:21 am, James Sparenberg wrote: I run Win4Lin 4 here. Just curious.. what can't you get running? I use it mostly for the occasional doc that OOo can't open as well as PSP and DreamWeaver. Any chance you have

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-11 Thread Lorne
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 08:12 pm, Vox wrote: This time Lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes daring and writes: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 12:21 am, James Sparenberg wrote: I run Win4Lin 4 here. Just curious.. what can't you get running? I use it mostly for the occasional doc that OOo

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-11 Thread Lorne
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 08:25 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 18:50, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 12:21 am, James Sparenberg wrote: I run Win4Lin 4 here. Just curious.. what can't you get running? I use it mostly for the occasional doc that OOo can't

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-11 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 19:25, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 18:50, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 12:21 am, James Sparenberg wrote: I run Win4Lin 4 here. Just curious.. what can't you get running? I use it mostly for the occasional doc that OOo can't open as

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-11 Thread Lorne
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 08:31 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 19:25, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 18:50, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 12:21 am, James Sparenberg wrote: I run Win4Lin 4 here. Just curious.. what can't you get running? I

RE: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-10 Thread Mark Williamson
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 16:19, Franki wrote: That is an awesom application... I just checed it out... Only two things I can think of that it needs for use over here.. 1. MySQL support.. It's just so easy to add postgres to your system.. that it should not be a problem that it does not

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 08 Feb 2003 5:10 am, Mark Weaver wrote: If I wouldn'tn have to interact with the accounting system I wouldn't have to boot back into windows at all. Have you considered win4lin for that need? Not everything works under it, but if your does the feeling of release is great. You

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-10 Thread Robert Goshko
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 10:18, Jack Coates wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 06:36, Luca Olivetti wrote: Luca Olivetti wrote: I can lock my 9.0 box at will, just capturing video or trying to use full duplex audio (when the load is high). BTW, minutes after writing this, my 3

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 Feb 2003 9:08 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 08 Feb 2003 5:10 am, Mark Weaver wrote: If I wouldn'tn have to interact with the accounting system I wouldn't have to boot back into windows at all. Have you considered win4lin for that need? Not everything

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-10 Thread Lorne
On Monday 10 February 2003 03:19 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 10 Feb 2003 9:08 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 08 Feb 2003 5:10 am, Mark Weaver wrote: If I wouldn'tn have to interact with the accounting system I wouldn't have to boot back into

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-10 Thread Jack Coates
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 20:41, Lorne wrote: On Monday 10 February 2003 03:19 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 10 Feb 2003 9:08 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 08 Feb 2003 5:10 am, Mark Weaver wrote: If I wouldn'tn have to interact with the

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-10 Thread Mark Weaver
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 10 Feb 2003 9:08 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 08 Feb 2003 5:10 am, Mark Weaver wrote: If I wouldn'tn have to interact with the accounting system I wouldn't have to boot back into windows at all. Have you considered win4lin for that

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-10 Thread Mark Weaver
Luca Olivetti wrote: Jack Coates wrote: BTW, minutes after writing this, my 3 years old son managed to freeze X (no, not the whole system, I was running mozilla remotely with no problem), but that's bound to happen with nvidia drivers :-\ Bye my four year old is the number one source of

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-10 Thread Mark Weaver
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 08 Feb 2003 5:10 am, Mark Weaver wrote: If I wouldn'tn have to interact with the accounting system I wouldn't have to boot back into windows at all. Have you considered win4lin for that need? Not everything works under it, but if your does the feeling of

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-09 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 09 February 2003 02:05 am, James Sparenberg wrote: Jack, Told my 2 year old that if he pushed that button his fingers would disapear. (In a calm voice.) He looked at me looked at his fingers smiled and said No daddy . But he didn't push the button. Take my tactic. The

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-09 Thread Luca Olivetti
Jack Coates wrote: BTW, minutes after writing this, my 3 years old son managed to freeze X (no, not the whole system, I was running mozilla remotely with no problem), but that's bound to happen with nvidia drivers :-\ Bye my four year old is the number one source of failure since I upgraded

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-09 Thread Vincent Danen
On Sat Feb 08, 2003 at 02:07:40AM -0600, Vox wrote: Agreed. It's pretty solid. I did manage to hang my cooker box once or twice, but hey, it's cooker. I expect this sort of stuff occassionally. I locked my cooker box tonight...after 60 days of uptime (power went out, no

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-09 Thread Vox
This time Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes daring and writes: succession without a burp. Very odd. I usually find cooker to be quite stable, but I tend to go this cycle: install release version, wait until after cooker has settled down (gcc/glibc upgrades), track cooker during the

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-09 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 03:06, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 09 February 2003 02:05 am, James Sparenberg wrote: Jack, Told my 2 year old that if he pushed that button his fingers would disapear. (In a calm voice.) He looked at me looked at his fingers smiled and said No daddy

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-09 Thread Jack Coates
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 14:33, Vincent Danen wrote: ... I'll be setting up CVS so I can commit the entire /etc directory to CVS then on an upgrade I can do stuff like cvs co or cvs diff to find the differences. Should be an interesting project. I've always wanted to do that... I know people

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-09 Thread Jonathan I. Nori
Now *this* is the kind of linux application development that gets me giddy. *grin* Once you can make a business case to replace the back-end systems of a business with linux, *then* you have a real shot at converting the desktops (you listening Mark? *hehehe*). I might have to have Mr. Weaver

RE: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-09 Thread Franki
have been thinking about writing for ages.. didn't know someone already had. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jonathan I. Nori Sent: Monday, 10 February 2003 12:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fwd: [expert] Best

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Vox
This time Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes daring and writes: On Sat Feb 08, 2003 at 12:10:59AM -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: everytime one of the eh-hem...programs leaks so bad it stuffs the entire system, or explorer craps out and takes down the entire system. pa-Lease! I've been

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 23:35:17 -0800 Dave Laird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good evening, everyone... Good morning... sorta. On Friday 07 February 2003 09:47 pm, Vincent Danen wrote: On Sat Feb 08, 2003 at 12:10:59AM -0500, Mark Weaver wrote:

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Luca Olivetti
Vincent Danen wrote: Agreed. It's pretty solid. I did manage to hang my cooker box once or twice, but hey, it's cooker. I expect this sort of stuff occassionally. I can lock my 9.0 box at will, just capturing video or trying to use full duplex audio (when the load is high). Traced the

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Luca Olivetti
Luca Olivetti wrote: I can lock my 9.0 box at will, just capturing video or trying to use full duplex audio (when the load is high). BTW, minutes after writing this, my 3 years old son managed to freeze X (no, not the whole system, I was running mozilla remotely with no problem), but that's

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread et
On Saturday 08 February 2003 09:06 am, Luca Olivetti wrote: Vincent Danen wrote: Agreed. It's pretty solid. I did manage to hang my cooker box once or twice, but hey, it's cooker. I expect this sort of stuff occassionally. I can lock my 9.0 box at will, just capturing video or trying to

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Luca Olivetti
et wrote: would be nice to know more about your lockups, since I don't get lockups. what easy, I used to use a program called vcr that captures from the tv card and compresses to divx on the fly. Works (or better, used to work, it doesn't with recent avifile versions) with 8.2 kernel,

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Mark Alexander
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 08:52:01AM -0500, Pierre Fortin wrote: Mdk 9.0 -- several times per day until 'trigger' found to be suspend/resume I had terrible suspend/resume problems with 9.0 too (crash after every third or fourth resume). Switching to a stock 2.4.20 kernel has helped greatly.

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Jack Coates
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 21:10, Mark Weaver wrote: ... If I wouldn'tn have to interact with the accounting system I wouldn't have to boot back into windows at all. I bought VMWare 2 for 89 bucks when it first came out and have been using it ever since to keep a Windows system around for Visio.

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Jack Coates
... Agreed. It's pretty solid. I did manage to hang my cooker box once or twice, but hey, it's cooker. I expect this sort of stuff occassionally. ... Clearly you don't own a newer ACPI-based i815 Sony Vaio :-) I've had to upgrade to a cooker kernel to get it to function at all (2.4.20-2mdk,

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Jack Coates
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 06:36, Luca Olivetti wrote: Luca Olivetti wrote: I can lock my 9.0 box at will, just capturing video or trying to use full duplex audio (when the load is high). BTW, minutes after writing this, my 3 years old son managed to freeze X (no, not the whole system, I

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Mark
Looks like some people need to discover SQL-Ledger for their accounting system..http://www.sql-ledger.com been using it for some time and it is excellent, and even if I was forced to use M$ Win, I would still use SQL-Ledger as my accounting system. Cheers Mark On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 04:07,

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread James Sparenberg
Jack, Told my 2 year old that if he pushed that button his fingers would disapear. (In a calm voice.) He looked at me looked at his fingers smiled and said No daddy . But he didn't push the button. Take my tactic. The button on the front of the box has been disabled. (I pulled the

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-07 Thread Mark Weaver
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 01:22 am, Vincent Danen scribbled nervously: Well, that's just a load of crap and you know it. I think I use my workstation just as hard as any Win98 user does... and it's rock solid for me. Don't use the product in any user-workhorse mode? Yeah... right.

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-07 Thread Vincent Danen
On Sat Feb 08, 2003 at 12:10:59AM -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: Well, that's just a load of crap and you know it. I think I use my workstation just as hard as any Win98 user does... and it's rock solid for me. Don't use the product in any user-workhorse mode? Yeah... right. Anyways,

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-07 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 00:47, Vincent Danen wrote: Agreed. It's pretty solid. I did manage to hang my cooker box once or twice, but hey, it's cooker. I expect this sort of stuff occassionally. You know, I can probably count on two hands the number of times my Linux boxes have crashed for

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-07 Thread Dave Laird
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good evening, everyone... On Friday 07 February 2003 09:47 pm, Vincent Danen wrote: On Sat Feb 08, 2003 at 12:10:59AM -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: In my experience you've got to try pretty damn hard to break Mandrake linux. For getting work done

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-04 Thread Steffen Barszus
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 07:22, Vincent Danen wrote: On Tue Feb 04, 2003 at 09:54:32AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: .. Well, be that as it may, did DrakX ever advertise this windows-alike behaviour? Did it say that if you did a package upgrade install that it would do what you seem to

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-04 Thread et
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 04:59 am, Steffen Barszus wrote: On Tuesday 04 February 2003 07:22, Vincent Danen wrote: On Tue Feb 04, 2003 at 09:54:32AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: .. Well, be that as it may, did DrakX ever advertise this windows-alike behaviour? Did it say that if you

RE: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Robert Wideman
There are presently 180 9.0-update RPMs.I would have installed about one third, so you must see that I would not be prepared to conduct the enormous amount of research to find out which, and then possibly to discover it is not one but some combination. That's inescapably

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Ron Stodden
Franki wrote: there was one with apache getting loaded with apache 2 updates.. or at least trying... don't know of any other... Thanks, but apache is not installed in any of the Mandrake partitions on either of the two machines involved. -- Ron [Melbourne, Australia] The problems that we

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Ron Stodden
Vincent Danen wrote: On Sun Feb 02, 2003 at 11:01:34AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: That's inescapably Mandrake's job. N'est ce pas? Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can we fix it? You

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Ron Stodden
Vincent Danen wrote: Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can we fix it? You presume too much. Tell us what got clobbered. My 9.0 machines, with all updates applied, are rock solid. Alas! My

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 03 Feb 2003 8:28 am, Ron Stodden wrote: 3. Mozilla printing just quit with no message.Required rpm -e on all the mozilla RPMs and reinstall. This can happen at any time - it happened to me last week and I had not changed anything so far as I am aware, so it may or may not be

Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread tarvid
On Monday 03 February 2003 03:40 am, Ron Stodden wrote: Vincent Danen wrote: Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can we fix it? You presume too much. Tell us what got clobbered. My 9.0

Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 03 Feb 2003 12:27 pm, tarvid wrote: I am convinced that hardware is a factor in many bug reports. If bug reports included motherboard/CPU/diskdrive we might spot a correlation in a matter of weeks. I think this bears more investigation. I have a feeling that motherboard based

RE: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Robert Wideman
Of Anne Wilson Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!! On Monday 03 Feb 2003 12:27 pm, tarvid wrote: I am convinced that hardware is a factor in many bug reports. If bug reports included

Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 03 Feb 2003 12:45 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: Then let all go with the new VIA ITX MB's and we will all be fine. FYI, 933mhz embedded proc with everything included (www.viatech.com) is $120 on pricewatch.com...complete system for less than $400. They look good value for systems that

Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 06:45 -0600, Robert Wideman wrote: Then let all go with the new VIA ITX MB's and we will all be fine. FYI, 933mhz embedded proc with everything included (www.viatech.com) is $120 on pricewatch.com...complete system for less than $400. I'd really like to see 9.1 dealing

Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread et
more likely it may be you are attempting to run at your hard drives faster speeds than the MObo, chipset and drives can stand and they are getting noise and chatter and EMF On Monday 03 February 2003 07:31 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 03 Feb 2003 12:27 pm, tarvid wrote: I am convinced

RE: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread James Sparenberg
]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!! On Monday 03 Feb 2003 12:27 pm, tarvid wrote: I am convinced that hardware is a factor in many bug reports. If bug

Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread James Sparenberg
Wobo, I've had it in the previos form. (800mhz version) for about 6 months. Not even a hiccup. Just gotta view the 9.0 errata for the install trick Only hiccup I've had is that the cdrom drive I bought doesn't like XP disks (I tried everything) Which to me just means it's a quality

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Vincent Danen
On Mon Feb 03, 2003 at 03:37:37PM +0800, Franki wrote: there was one with apache getting loaded with apache 2 updates.. or at least trying... don't know of any other... apache2 is not in updates. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ lynx -source

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Vincent Danen
On Mon Feb 03, 2003 at 07:28:18PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: That's inescapably Mandrake's job. N'est ce pas? Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can we fix it? You presume too much.

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Vincent Danen
On Mon Feb 03, 2003 at 07:40:27PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can we fix it? You presume too much. Tell us what got clobbered. My 9.0 machines, with all

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Ron Stodden
Vincent Danen wrote: On Mon Feb 03, 2003 at 07:40:27PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: Interestingly, a reinstall did not fix anything, like it does with Windows 98 (but _NOT_ always) - which is a serious requirements or design problem with the Mandrake installer. The installer goes with the

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Jack Coates
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 14:54, Ron Stodden wrote: Vincent Danen wrote: On Mon Feb 03, 2003 at 07:40:27PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: Interestingly, a reinstall did not fix anything, like it does with Windows 98 (but _NOT_ always) - which is a serious requirements or design problem with the

Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Lorne
On Monday 03 February 2003 05:27 am, tarvid wrote: On Monday 03 February 2003 03:40 am, Ron Stodden wrote: Vincent Danen wrote: Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can we fix it? You

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tue Feb 04, 2003 at 09:54:32AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: Interestingly, a reinstall did not fix anything, like it does with Windows 98 (but _NOT_ always) - which is a serious requirements or design problem with the Mandrake installer. The installer goes with the packages it's

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Vincent Danen
On Mon Feb 03, 2003 at 08:44:59PM -0800, Jack Coates wrote: [...] My point is that Win 98 does this. Plainly, or fortuitously, it was an important requirement and goal of installer implementation. That may be the intention, but a reinstall of Windows over the same partition has

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-02 Thread Tom
Ron is correct about the KDE failure. However, the updates may or may not be relevent. I had the very same thing happen. Only I was editting the menus via menudrake and did something with showing only KDE items. I ended up reloading 9.0 and have been very careful with the menus since then. On

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-02 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 16:01, Ron Stodden wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: Specifically what updates clobbered you? I've not had this problem on any of my 9.0 boxes but then I might not have the same software installed you do. My goodness, how would anyone possibly know? I usually

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-02 Thread Vincent Danen
On Sun Feb 02, 2003 at 11:01:34AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: Specifically what updates clobbered you? I've not had this problem on any of my 9.0 boxes but then I might not have the same software installed you do. My goodness, how would anyone possibly know? There are presently 180

RE: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-02 Thread Franki
] Subject: Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!! On Sun Feb 02, 2003 at 11:01:34AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: Specifically what updates clobbered you? I've not had this problem on any of my 9.0 boxes but then I might not have the same software installed you do. My goodness, how would anyone

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-01 Thread James Sparenberg
I've two questions for this release. 1. Has anyone installed this on an older (say 2 year old) laptop and tried wireless. The last distro that worked well for me was 8.0 in this respect. 2. Has anyone played with hotplug devices in addition to pcmcia to see if the problem with trying to

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-01 Thread Ron Stodden
Dave Laird wrote: O my GOD! Mandrake 9.1beta3 installed without one single hitch, error, or problem of any sort. This is AWESOME! When it's finished it's going to be the best Mandrake version ever. For the benefit of those of us sitting this dance out, could you please tell us more about what

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-01 Thread James Sparenberg
Ron, Specifically what updates clobbered you? I've not had this problem on any of my 9.0 boxes but then I might not have the same software installed you do. James On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 15:13, Ron Stodden wrote: Dave Laird wrote: O my GOD! Mandrake 9.1beta3 installed without one single

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-01 Thread Ron Stodden
James Sparenberg wrote: Specifically what updates clobbered you? I've not had this problem on any of my 9.0 boxes but then I might not have the same software installed you do. My goodness, how would anyone possibly know? There are presently 180 9.0-update RPMs.I would have installed

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-01 Thread Benjamin Pflugmann
On Sun 2003-02-02 at 11:01:34 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: Specifically what updates clobbered you? I've not had this problem on any of my 9.0 boxes but then I might not have the same software installed you do. My goodness, how would anyone possibly know?

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