--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was on Purusha when it first started. We moved
> to
> > MIU and during the springtime I was assigned to go
> > around and work on thermostats in all the dorms
> a
On Jun 9, 2005, at 1:14 PM, Rick wrote:
> There may be a "place" where vasanas are obliterated but unless they
> are no longer attractive then the obliteration is only temporary.
One would have to repeat the same "cause" that created he vasana and
then "seal" it--otherwise it will not recur.
--- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip
>
> Dear Peter,
>
> You have done such a good job of explaining
> this "I" no "I"
> thing frontwards, backwards, sideways and inside
> out. Even though
> many are not experiencing this state of mind or no
> mind right now, I
> think that with a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was on Purusha when it first started. We moved to
> MIU and during the springtime I was assigned to go
> around and work on thermostats in all the dorms and
> pods. One fine Spring day I turned the corner around a
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> a fun experiment to try: close your eyes, and one by one eliminate
> the motion of the mind; no projection right, left, up, down,
> backwards, forwards. Just bring it to a quiet stop, no thought.
> Allow the sense
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I'm biased here having worked with many
> schizophrenics. It is possible that the schizophrenia
> was in remission, but if you interact for any amount
> of time even with someone with schizophrenia in
> remissio
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
**SNIP**
> Before you meditate imagine Guru Dev and bow to him.
> Imagine MMY and bow to him. Imagine every single
> spiritual teacher that you have learned anything from
> and bow to them. Imagine the entirity of cr
--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > -Celibacy is also OCD.
> >
> > I guess so, wouldn't know. I never understood why
> anyone would go
> that
> > route. Have you tried it?
> >
> >
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jun 9, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Llundrub wrote:
>
> > This is my experience. TM and action is great for those with few
> > personality issues, but doesn't much change someone after the
novelty
> > of TM wears off. Then more
--- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have personally spoken with members of the
> Admissions Office at MUM
> who interacted with Sem before he became a student.
> His insanity was
> not at all obvious at that time. My speculation is
> that, after
> stopping his meds, the deteriorati
--- marekreavis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Comment below:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > We all, I suppose, have the fantasy: wouldn't
> > > it have
>
--- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Jun 9, 2005, at 11:22 AM, Rick wrote:
> >
> > > Are you saying that this directly addresses
> Transcendental
> Meditation?
> >
> > All forms of meditation which work at tra
I have personally spoken with members of the Admissions Office at MUM
who interacted with Sem before he became a student. His insanity was
not at all obvious at that time. My speculation is that, after
stopping his meds, the deterioration in his mental state was
cumulative, so it was possible t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> And/Or, you could do puja to Guru Dev.
>
> Marek
that sounds great! I never learned how, but it sounds really nice.
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a fun experiment to try: close your eyes, and one by one eliminate
the motion of the mind; no projection right, left, up, down,
backwards, forwards. Just bring it to a quiet stop, no thought.
Allow the senses to continue to operate, just don't interact with
their objects.
Then, where is I? no
Comment below:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We all, I suppose, have the fantasy: wouldn't
> > it have
> > been great to have met Guru Dev, to have been his disciple. B
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "If your meditation is merely relaxing in the stillness of mind, you
> will not get beyond being side-tracked in the samadhi of the gods.
Such
> a meditation will not be able to overcome your attachment or anger.
It
> will
here's sincerely hoping that you get the job if you want it!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For instance, I had a job interview yesterday at 11:00 am. I had
meditated and just felt like lying down and napping after. My sense
of time was skewed a
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Jokes are mainly memorized and repeated. That's wh
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We all, I suppose, have the fantasy: wouldn't
> it have
> been great to have met Guru Dev, to have been his disciple. But I
> think, with respect to the material you have posted, it would be
even
> greater to be a discipl
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Physicists who meddle with cold fusion, like psychologists who dabble
> in the paranormal, are likely to be labelled quacks by
> their peers.. Desk-top fusion may be possible after all,
> according to an article publishe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > -Celibacy is also OCD.
>
> I guess so, wouldn't know. I never understood why anyone would go
that
> route. Have you tried it?
>
>
> 2 years when I was on purusha. When even trees and animals
start
Thanks for this Paul, what a treasure trove you are amassing.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you to those who have supported my research into Guru Dev's
> life and teachings. As I am framing another visit to India this
year,
> if
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim, that's not the problem, inclusion of colour photographs would
not
> be a stumbling block. It's just that the Guru Dev book is to be a
> serious look at the guru and his teachings and it is difficult t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jun 9, 2005, at 11:22 AM, Rick wrote:
>
> > Are you saying that this directly addresses Transcendental
Meditation?
>
> All forms of meditation which work at transcending thought, not just
> TM©.
I agree, forms of medi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> --- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > An unenlightened person looks at an enlightened
> > person
> > > and they appe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > genetics are the inherited physical expression of past lives, and
> > correlated with the family we incarnate into. Now tha
Comment (and thanks) below:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
**SNIP**
> --I used to question why I had worked at 37 jobs in the last
fifteen years. Then when I took Bodhisattva vows I realized that I
had somewhere decided to make the connection wit
You should look into Mucuna pruriens, which is a
natural form of L. Dopamine which is a serotonin precursor.
http://www.rain-tree.com/velvetbean.htm
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Garden&Number=2752717&Searchpage=1&Main=2727398&Words=l.dopa&topic=&Search=true#Pos
Said very well. Thanks.
Marek
**
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In Message 1935 of 2016 at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Premanand Paul Mason"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > MMY answers questions about Guru Dev.
> > [...]
> > ...And I was never interes
On Jun 9, 2005, at 11:22 AM, Rick wrote:
> Are you saying that this directly addresses Transcendental Meditation?
All forms of meditation which work at transcending thought, not just
TM©.
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On Jun 9, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Llundrub wrote:
This is my experience. TM and action is great for those with few personality issues, but doesn't much change someone after the novelty of TM wears off. Then more formal mind training is still needed.
I think the TM Marga would work if someone was tru
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
**SNIP**
> >if anyone has had any
> > experience and/or
> > results from the OTC supplement, 5-HTP? It is the
> > immediate
> > precursor to the neurotransmitter, Serotonin, which
> > the lack of
> > availability at
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "If your meditation is merely relaxing in the stillness of mind, you
> will not get beyond being side-tracked in the samadhi of the gods.
Such
> a meditation will not be able to overcome your attachment or anger.
It
> will
- Original Message -
From: Vaj
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Desires and Enlightenment
"If your meditation is merely relaxing in the stillness of mind, you
will not get beyond being side-tracked in the sama
Roger! got it now ... it (around the healer) wasn't the same as
theMIU/rounding/etc atmosphere. but I get your
point.JohnY
--I used to question
why I had worked at 37 jobs in the last fifteen years. Then when I took
Bodhisattva vows I realized that I had somewhere decided to make
"If your meditation is merely relaxing in the stillness of mind, you
will not get beyond being side-tracked in the samadhi of the gods. Such
a meditation will not be able to overcome your attachment or anger. It
will not be able to put a stop to the flow of karmic formations. Nor
will it be abl
I had a talk with Venerable Ontul
Rinpoche where he discussed the 9 yanas or vehicles of Buddhism.
What was interesting to me and seemed
to point to me as regards certain memories of mine was that people may become
enlightened from a self guided path (and they are called pratyekabuddhas)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > As a chef I have trained many people. Many of them have eaten
> nothing but turkey necks their whole lives. Not a single negative
> thought ever arose in them about turkey necks either.
>
> I don't get it ? I wa
Not that I know anything, but one
previously used to interpret all their desires as coming from their own ego, but
later one sees desires arising themselves from the universal. This is the
difference. Previously desires were for limited and localized reasons but later
the desires are spont
"Physicists who meddle with cold fusion, like psychologists who dabble
in the paranormal, are likely
to be labelled quacks by their peers. This is due to an infamous
incident in 1989 when Stanley Pons
and Martin Fleischmann held a press conference to announce their
discovery of nuclear fusion in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Jokes are mainly memorized and repeated. That's why everybody loves
> them. No arguing. People laugh. You come across as in control, and
--- In Message 1935 of 2016 at
[EMAIL PROTECTED], "Premanand Paul Mason"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MMY answers questions about Guru Dev.
> [...]
> ...And I was never interested who was given what mantra. I was
> interested in myself. [laughter and giggling]...
> [...]
> ... Out of that fulln
Just got off the phone with Bevan's evil twin,
who suggested that all the talk about the 200 pundits coming to Vedic City
are just to get people thinking about the number 200, then the ole
switcheroo will bring in the 200 gents on Purusha to the trailer
park...---They are pundits,
no?
To
--- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The "I" actually does not
> > exist. But it appears to exist in waking state ...
> What drives the
> > behavior/thought/feeling of the enlightened is
> what
> > dri
--- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > And if the enlightened person says that in order
> to
> > > justify his behavior,
> > > then fine.
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:>
Jokes are mainly memorized and repeated. That's why everybody loves them. No
arguing. People laugh. You come across as in control, and full of native
wit. But all one has to do is speak their lines, and the pun
> As a chef I have trained many people. Many of them have
eatennothing but turkey necks their whole lives. Not a single
negativethought ever arose in them about turkey necks either.I don't
get it ? I was talking about negitive thoughts arising in mymind ... took
about 2 days to notice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > And if the enlightened person says that in order to
> > justify his behavior,
> > then fine.
>
> Only somebody in waking state with an ego would
> "justify" be
> > -Celibacy is also OCD.I
guess so, wouldn't know. I never understood why anyone would go that route.
Have you tried it?2 years when I was on purusha. When even
trees and animals started looking sexy I was honest with myself and decided to
go.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The "I" actually does not
> exist. But it appears to exist in waking state ... What drives the
> behavior/thought/feeling of the enlightened is what
> drives everything phenomenal...
> This is actually driving people
Keep in mind there is a difference between the yogic conception of ego
and the Freudian ego. SIgnificantly, some believe the ego isn't "real".
Many (if not most) psycho-therapists subscribe to the illusion that the
Freudian ego is a real entity.
On Jun 9, 2005, at 5:35 AM, claudiouk wrote:
> T
Matrixmonitor:
First of all, it depends on how you define enlightenment.
Secondly, at a certain stage many yogis will determine which karmas
they want to maintain and which ones they want to eliminate. For
example I may want to retain positive karmas right up to the
dissolution of my physical
--- mathatbrahman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ---Interesting theory, but the facts yell out re:
> MMY ...he has "I,
> I, I...written all over him. Still, he's
> Enlightened. (at least many
> believe. I believe he is).
Of course MMY is enlightened. You see "I" written all
over him. That is a
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 6/8/05 11:45 PM, mathatbrahman at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > ---Interesting theory, but the facts yell out re:
> MMY ...he has "I,
> > I, I...written all over him. Still, he's
> Enlightened. (at least many
> > believe. I believe he is).
> >
--- bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George
> DeForest
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > Received: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:16:30 AM PDT
> > From: NYC Maharishi Vedic School <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: volun
--- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > An unenlightened person looks at an enlightened
> person
> > and they appear to have desires. They talk, they
> move,
> > they eat food, they do this and that, they prefer
Oh you are so bad Bob!
--- bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > on 6/8/05 11:53 PM, bbrigante at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Just got off the phone with Bevan's evil twin,
> >
>
>
> > Who's that?
>
--- claudiouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Ego, Freud said, is primarily a "bodily" ego.
> After enlightenment
> the body is still there and other people's bodies
> are still not one's
> own.. in the relative the same rules still apply.
Ego arises out of identification. Consciousness
ident
Thank you to those who have supported my research into Guru Dev's
life and teachings. As I am framing another visit to India this year,
if anyone has any useful contacts or hot tips, please let me know. Any
useful information about Guru Dev or/and illustrations would be greatly
appeciated. on m
The Ego, Freud said, is primarily a "bodily" ego. After enlightenment
the body is still there and other people's bodies are still not one's
own.. in the relative the same rules still apply.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@ya
Jim, that's not the problem, inclusion of colour photographs would not
be a stumbling block. It's just that the Guru Dev book is to be a
serious look at the guru and his teachings and it is difficult to see a
place in it for photos taken on Himalayan jaunts.
Before I put the snaps away, here is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 6/8/05 11:45 PM, mathatbrahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> And if the enlightened person says that in order to justify his
behavior,
> then fine. "Nobody" will mind if his body spends some time in jail.
Nice.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> genetics are the inherited physical expression of past lives, and
> correlated with the family we incarnate into. Now that's precision!
Yes. But I'm talking about 2 separate lines: body (genetic entity)
and sp
I worked with Larry briefly during the physics conference, with Maharishi, and Brian Josephson, and the "Tao of Physics" guy, in 1975.
Larry seemed too much like a regular guy to be involved with the politics, that took over the university, at the time Bevan, and others entered the picture. Th
Title: Template
June 09, 2005 - Meditation
Meditation is
for many a foreign concept, somehow distant and foreboding, seemingly
impossible to participate in. But another word for meditation is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I checked it up in Norway. TMO has no Trademark on Transcendental
> Meditation - and will not have it in the Future, because
> Transcendental is a description of a state of consciousness and is
> universal. I do not kn
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