[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

2010-01-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jeff.evans60 jeff.evan...@... wrote: Assuming it was a conscious decision how she was portrayed, I think the message the filmmaker was trying to give was that the Indians were happy to allow her to live with them without trying to force their cultural

[FairfieldLife] Cold weather and new YFfers?

2010-01-07 Thread cardemaister
Are they lots of new Yogic Fliers in Latin America? Oh blimey, are they causing this bloody cold weather in some parts of the northern hemisphere?? :0

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread PaliGap
...we read that St. Peter was able to walk on water as he approached Jesus, but started to sink when he doubted his faith. No, no ,no. We know from modern research on the brain why folks who are perfectly comfortable walking on water one day suddenly start to sink the next. And it's not

[FairfieldLife] AVATAR in retrospective -- Journey To Ixtlan

2010-01-07 Thread TurquoiseB
Anticipating Shemp's tirades against the film when he returns from a week on the bench :-), I thought I'd take advantage of the fact that I have my own copy of the film and have thus been able to not only see it multiple times but *study* it, and rap a bit further on what I see as its admirable

[FairfieldLife] John Stewart his team discuss Tiger Woods' religion

2010-01-07 Thread TurquoiseB
John Stewart and The Best F**king Theological Team helps Tiger Woods find forgiveness by recommending the best religion for his redemption: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-4-2010/the-best-f--king-ne\ ws-team-ever---tiger-woods--faith

[FairfieldLife] A Teabagger Stimulus

2010-01-07 Thread do.rflex
A Teabagger Stimulus by Gen. JC Christian, patriot It's no secret Teabagger-Americans like myself are very angry about the stimulus spending. Why shouldn't we be pissed off? We're not stupid. We look around and see all this money being spent on socialist work programs like roads, water

[FairfieldLife] Lisa Williams at Shores

2010-01-07 Thread cardemaister
Spiritual energy balls and stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHvntte9lmM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: To All: Siddhis are not restricted to the vedic literature. We find similar feats in the gospels and stories of Christian saints. The conclusion is inescapable. Because stories of siddhis exist in these books, siddhis must

[FairfieldLife] Re: John Stewart his team discuss Tiger Woods' religion

2010-01-07 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Redeeming Tiger: II.1 Mortification, study and surrendering the fruits of work to God are called Yoga. Well, writing as a conservative meditator, I would remind poor Tiger of the old axiom, Tiger, what you put your attention on certainly grows stronger in life. Not just showing up in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread Premanand
As I understand it from a muslim friend, Hindus take their mythical writings literally. I guess the question is how much we need to buy into the idea that there was once human beings who could do things that seem to defy reason. In today's world the real miracle would be for people to stop

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandp...@... wrote: As I understand it from a muslim friend, Hindus take their mythical writings literally. I guess the question is how much we need to buy into the idea that there was once human beings who could do things that seem to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandp...@... wrote: As I understand it from a muslim friend, Hindus take their mythical writings literally. I'm not sure I'd consult a Muslim for an objective view of Hinduism (any more than I'd consult a Hindu for an objective view of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

2010-01-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , jeff.evans60 jeff.evans60@ wrote: Assuming it was a conscious decision how she was portrayed, I think the

[FairfieldLife] Slovaks plant explosives on air traveller

2010-01-07 Thread It's just a ride
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8441891.stm Irish police have released a man held over an explosives find, after Slovak authorities admitted planting them in his luggage as part of a security test. The explosives were among eight contraband items placed with passengers at Bratislava and

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

2010-01-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jeff.evans60 jeff.evans60@ wrote: Assuming it was a conscious decision how she was portrayed, I think the message the filmmaker was trying to give was that the Indians were happy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Slovaks plant explosives on air traveller

2010-01-07 Thread raunchydog
If you think Slovakian security planting three RDX explosives in the luggage of a man heading for Ireland is dumb. This is dumber: The unsuspecting passenger went through security at Poprad-Tatry Airport, bomb sniffing dogs found two of the three explosives, Good dog! they said. The man flew to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 7, 2010, at 7:35 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: The conclusion is inescapable. Because stories of siddhis exist in these books, siddhis must exist. Similarly, stories of not only siddhis but fantastic creatures like dragons, trolls, etc. exist in other books. Of course they exist, and not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread WillyTex
John Jr wrote: Siddhis are not restricted to the vedic literature. The mastery of 'siddhis' is attained through the practice of 'yoga', as described in the 'Yoga Sutras' of Patanjali (circa 200 BC). According to Mircea Eliade, the practice of yogic enstasis is unique to South Asia. The

[FairfieldLife] Avatar debate on Thom Hartmann's Show

2010-01-07 Thread Bhairitu
Ron Paul is being interviewed right now (hour 1) but in hour 3 Thom will be debating the movie Avatar with Dr. Ted Baehr, chairman of the Christian Film Television Commission. Should be interesting. Hartmann is delayed in some areas. I listen to him live with his online stream (even

Re: [FairfieldLife] Cold weather and new YFfers?

2010-01-07 Thread Bhairitu
cardemaister wrote: Are they lots of new Yogic Fliers in Latin America? Oh blimey, are they causing this bloody cold weather in some parts of the northern hemisphere?? :0 Is it a wee bit cold where you are? I thought that was par for the course? ;-) It's been cold since about the beginning

[FairfieldLife] Those who see the movie vs. those who only read the reviews

2010-01-07 Thread TurquoiseB
A spiritual teacher I studied with for a number of years (not Maharishi) had a dualistic view of things he liked to rap about from time to time, even though his predominant view was more Unity-based. He gave a number of talks about the two types of seekers. He *more* than knew that there are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread WillyTex
TurquoiseB wrote: A reason other than Because I believe they are, that is... It has already been established that you believe in the individual 'soul-monad', so you've been shown to get a lot of your information from verbal testimony. There's nothing you can point to in the physical world

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread Premanand
Prior to initiation into TM I had next to no exposure to Maharishi's thinking, but after being taught TM concluded that Maharishi's primary message was that by periodically transcending thought one would gain greater awareness, blissfulness and satisfaction. The idea of meditating, letting go

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread WillyTex
That would be something. TurquoiseB wrote: It gets even weirder when people claim that things they have NEVER experienced subjectively but have only heard of are Truth. These things aren't even subjective experience; they are pure BELIEF... So, it has been established that you believe

RE: [FairfieldLife] AVATAR in retrospective -- Journey To Ixtlan

2010-01-07 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:06 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] AVATAR in retrospective -- Journey To Ixtlan I thought I'd take advantage of the fact that I have

[FairfieldLife] Ann Coulter fears anus, foreskin bombings

2010-01-07 Thread do.rflex
Ann Coulter says she's afraid of anal, foreskin bombings By David Edwards and John Byrne http://rawstory.com/2009/author/raw120/ [Ann Coulter photo] If you didn't lose your lunch over comments http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/funnyquotes/a/anncoulter.htm conservative doyenne Ann

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread WillyTex
Premanand wrote: As Turquoise asks, then why not our own Fairy Tales too? They have a lot in common with the Purananas. Oh, but then they are not Indian or Vedic, huh! The 'Fairey Tales' of Western cultures have nothing to do with Yoga or Transcendental Knowledge, found in the Upanishads

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For the gadget geeks on FFL

2010-01-07 Thread Bhairitu
Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: This week is the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. Though I've been before I didn't go this year. The show is too hard on the feet as it is in a huge convention center with concrete floors.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@... wrote: ...we read that St. Peter was able to walk on water as he approached Jesus, but started to sink when he doubted his faith. No, no ,no. We know from modern research on the brain why folks who are perfectly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread Premanand
The Indian word puraaNa is an adjective meaning old, ancient; and a noun meaning; tale of by-gone ages, Hindu mythology. Superpowers abound in the old tales of many nations. So why take the Indian Puranas any more seriously than say Icelandic or German tales? The existence of Patanjali's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: Siddhis are not restricted to the vedic literature. We find similar feats in the gospels and stories of Christian saints. The conclusion is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandp...@... wrote: As I understand it from a muslim friend, Hindus take their mythical writings literally. I guess the question is how much we need to buy into the idea that there was once human beings who could do things that seem to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Those who see the movie vs. those who only read the reviews

2010-01-07 Thread WillyTex
Turq wrote: Now think spiritual practice. Every week we see instances of people declaring what they believe to be the Truth about enlightenment, *without ever having experienced it themselves*... You've just committed a logical falacy: you've assumed, based on verbal knowledge, that

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: For the gadget geeks on FFL

2010-01-07 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:54 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For the gadget geeks on FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Global 12 January 2010 Assembly

2010-01-07 Thread michael
Announcing Global 12 January 2010 Assembly: Celebrating the Inauguration of Maharishi's Third Year of Invincibility- Global Raam Raj by Global Good News staff writer Global Good News    Translate This Article 6 January 2010 The Rajas, Raj Rajeshwaris,* and Ministers of the Global Country of

[FairfieldLife] Re: John Stewart his team discuss Tiger Woods' religion

2010-01-07 Thread seekliberation
I don't understand why people feel Tiger needs any help whatsoever, let alone any ridicule. What we have here is a double standard. John F Kennedy cheated on his wife, and people all over the country to this day are still regarding him as one of the most monumental presidents of all time.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread WillyTex
Premanand wrote: Superpowers abound in the old tales of many nations. Apparently there are no instances, in myth, or in the history of any nation other than South Asia of states of *yogic enstasis* as described by Patanjali in the Yoga Sutras. Siddha Yoga has nothing to do with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: That would be something. TurquoiseB wrote: It gets even weirder when people claim that things they have NEVER experienced subjectively but have only heard of are Truth. These things aren't even subjective

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread Premanand
I once visited an area in the Himalayas closeby Jyotirmath, Tapoban, where siddhas are supposed to live. Other than the shrine of a recently deceased one, Gudri Baba (who was mentioned in Swami Rama's Himalayan Masters book, as I recall) I found no 'siddhas' there. When I pointed this out to an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: John Jr wrote: Siddhis are not restricted to the vedic literature. The mastery of 'siddhis' is attained through the practice of 'yoga', as described in the 'Yoga Sutras' of Patanjali (circa 200 BC). According to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread WillyTex
The mastery of 'siddhis' is attained through the practice of 'yoga', as described in the 'Yoga Sutras' of Patanjali (circa 200 BC). According to Mircea Eliade, the practice of yogic enstasis is unique to South Asia. WillyTex, John Jr wrote: You're missing my point. What I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cold weather and new YFfers?

2010-01-07 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: cardemaister wrote: Are they lots of new Yogic Fliers in Latin America? Oh blimey, are they causing this bloody cold weather in some parts of the northern hemisphere?? :0 Is it a wee bit cold where you are? I thought

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandp...@... wrote: I once visited an area in the Himalayas closeby Jyotirmath, Tapoban, where siddhas are supposed to live. Other than the shrine of a recently deceased one, Gudri Baba (who was mentioned in Swami Rama's Himalayan

Re: [FairfieldLife] Avatar debate on Thom Hartmann's Show

2010-01-07 Thread Bhairitu
Bhairitu wrote: Ron Paul is being interviewed right now (hour 1) but in hour 3 Thom will be debating the movie Avatar with Dr. Ted Baehr, chairman of the Christian Film Television Commission. Should be interesting. Hartmann is delayed in some areas. I listen to him live with his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread BillyG
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandp...@... wrote: I once visited an area in the Himalayas closeby Jyotirmath, Tapoban, where siddhas are supposed to live. Other than the shrine of a recently deceased one, Gudri Baba (who was mentioned in Swami Rama's Himalayan

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandpaul@ wrote: As I understand it from a muslim friend, Hindus take their mythical writings literally. I guess the question is how much we need to buy into the

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2010-01-07 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jan 02 00:00:00 2010 End Date (UTC): Sat Jan 09 00:00:00 2010 367 messages as of (UTC) Thu Jan 07 23:55:51 2010 50 authfriend jst...@panix.com 46 TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com 43 WillyTex willy...@yahoo.com 27

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread Vaj
On Jan 7, 2010, at 2:35 PM, WillyTex wrote: Premanand wrote: As Turquoise asks, then why not our own Fairy Tales too? They have a lot in common with the Purananas. Oh, but then they are not Indian or Vedic, huh! The 'Fairey Tales' of Western cultures have nothing to do with Yoga

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: The mastery of 'siddhis' is attained through the practice of 'yoga', as described in the 'Yoga Sutras' of Patanjali (circa 200 BC). According to Mircea Eliade, the practice of yogic enstasis is unique to South

[FairfieldLife] Re: For the gadget geeks on FFL

2010-01-07 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:54 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For the gadget

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For the gadget geeks on FFL

2010-01-07 Thread Bhairitu
Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:54 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

2010-01-07 Thread It's just a ride
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Premanand premanandp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: The Indian word puraaNa is an adjective meaning old, ancient; and a noun meaning; tale of by-gone ages, Hindu mythology. Superpowers abound in the old tales of many nations. So why take the  Indian Puranas any more