Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 4:21 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: [...] The only interesting thing about the latest TM org employee research is that a landmark independent study

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 8:50 AM, maskedzebra wrote: Hey, Ravi Yogi, I'm new to FFL. I probably should read some of your other posts before responding to this one. However, I just want to say it: You really know how to hurt a guy. I am sure you're right that I am an egoist, but could you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:42 AM, turquoiseb wrote: It is worth pointing out that as far as I remember Ravi has since said on two different occasions that his entire interview was a put-on, and that he was taking advantage of Rick's naivete. I don't remember the exact messages in which he said

Re: [FairfieldLife] How Can Some Christians Be Filled With so Much Hate and Violence?

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: let's not forget the tenth commandment. Thou shalt not covet. Doesn't that mean keep your freakin hands off other peoples property? Yet liberal politicians covet the wealth of successful people in order to buy votes and give the false

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 1:58 PM, sparaig wrote: I've already posted a list of published research on Pure Consciousness during TM and on the physiological/psychological profiles of people who report pure consciousness 24/7 for years/ decades at a time. Alleged pure consciousness. The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 2:08 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: You don't acknowledge self realization as anything special anyway, so you can't have it both ways, can't push against something that according to you does not exist. And

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 3:11 PM, sparaig wrote: Dunno where he got the idea. Others on this list have reported him as saying the same thing. maskedzebra just confirmed what I said in his previous message. Whether or not his claim was valid, isn't the point. The point is that within the TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 3:36 PM, maskedzebra wrote: RESPONSE: No, Lawson, I very much did need to validate it for myself. But you see, Unity Consciousness validates itself—I wrote 11 books about this: either about Unity Consciousness directly, or about world events as seen through the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:49 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jun 21, 2011, at 3:11 PM, sparaig wrote: Dunno where he got the idea. Others on this list have reported him as saying the same thing. maskedzebra just confirmed what I said

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 7:47 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: [...] Of course it could be both. ANd I don't see much distinction, if any, since MMY also said that CC was required to be stabilized before GC or UC could be stabilized. One

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2011, at 7:51 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: [...] One is technically a fabrication, the other is purely spontaneous. That's actually a HUGE difference

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The death of the 52 y/o, contaminated herbs, bloods tests required?

2011-06-20 Thread Vaj
On Jun 18, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jun 18, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: Men have taken herbs and now are going to India for PK

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-20 Thread Vaj
On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:06 PM, maskedzebra wrote: RESPONSE: Not a single person in my lifetime has demonstrated impeccably and infallibly that such a ground of all being even exists. That is, if I am to go by his/her claim to become the embodiment of such an irreducible level of reality. In

Re: [FairfieldLife] How Can Some Christians Be Filled With so Much Hate and Violence?

2011-06-20 Thread Vaj
On Jun 20, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: Vaj, do you really want to go there? How can you not? Christo-fascists are destroying this country with their wars of foreign aggression, draining our economy, while the rich get tax cuts and the needy get their services cut. Christian

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The death of the 52 y/o, contaminated herbs, bloods tests required?

2011-06-18 Thread Vaj
On Jun 18, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: Men have taken herbs and now are going to India for PK, have all been urged to get blood tests, stat. From what I hear these are not MAPI herbs that were

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-16 Thread Vaj
On Jun 15, 2011, at 8:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Eh, so, make a choice: help a saint and don't go to the dome, or, don't help a saint and go to the dome. Which is more important and why? [the question of should this be a criterion for keeping your dome badge is another question

[FairfieldLife] Business with the mystics (Sudha Ramachandran) - is the Guru paradigm (syndrome?) obsolete?

2011-06-16 Thread Vaj
From the ontologicalethics list: Spirituality has never had it so good. With the economy booming, an increasing number of Indians are turning to spirituality to help them cope with pressures generated by their materialistic lifestyles. Catering to a huge and growing international market

Re: [FairfieldLife] Speculating about CC instead of doing the work[was Re:Two...questions from Turq]

2011-06-13 Thread Vaj
On Jun 13, 2011, at 1:36 PM, John wrote: IMO, the human physiology is the living system that reflects the effects of the planets in the solar system. It is through human consciousness that we can understand their influences in our individual lives, physically and psychologically. From

Re: [FairfieldLife] comment on Enlightened A-holes

2011-06-10 Thread Vaj
On Jun 10, 2011, at 6:05 PM, Yifu wrote: Could be a genuine paradox here; since normally, we'd expect (given the history of certain so-called E'd people, say the confirmed Gang of Three: Andy, Bevan, and RWC.) conversations like this... Or it could be, as RWC 'pines, illegitimate lineal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Speculating about CC instead of doing the work[was Re:Two...questions from Turq]

2011-06-10 Thread Vaj
On Jun 10, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@... wrote: Flannigan, if he indeed is 'awakened', provides a clear example that 'awakened' self-important assholes can still be self-important assholes. Et Tu do? You

Re: [FairfieldLife] 911 Towers had several explosions -- new video footage reveals.

2011-06-09 Thread Vaj
On Jun 9, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 06/09/2011 06:19 AM, Duveyoung wrote: http://www.disinfo.com/2010/10/911-firefighters-reveal-huge- explosions-before-towers-collapsed/ Now Edg, you know on FFL you've got to connect that somehow to whether the world is going to end and FFL'ers

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Towers had several explosions -- new video footage reveals.

2011-06-09 Thread Vaj
On Jun 9, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Bhairitu wrote: Now Edg, you know on FFL you've got to connect that somehow to whether the world is going to end and FFL'ers didn't even make it to CC. Obviously looking at the hot topics here that's whats really important, not the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two completely atypical theoretical questions from Turq

2011-06-08 Thread Vaj
On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:00 PM, emptybill wrote: Vaj: Give me some Don Juan Matus anytime over becoming the latest self-proclaimed Super-Rishi or Raja. Vaj quotes a fictional character from the Canteñada books to nail down his arguments. So is this guy a bull-shitter or not? I think troll sums

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two completely atypical theoretical questions from Turq

2011-06-08 Thread Vaj
On Jun 8, 2011, at 2:52 AM, cardemaister wrote: L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: The UC view of Vedanta, esp. in the Shank. tradition, not only avoids siddhis, it considers them antithetical to the evolution of consciousness. So, why did Shank

Re: [FairfieldLife] Apple's Proposed New Headquarters

2011-06-08 Thread Vaj
On Jun 8, 2011, at 4:47 PM, John wrote: The land bought by the company for its proposed headquarters is not auspicious for good fortune. It is not rectangular or a square and has a sharp edge on one of the sides. The company may incur difficulties and losses due to this configuration.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two completely atypical theoretical questions from Turq

2011-06-07 Thread Vaj
On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:12 PM, WillyTex wrote: Dzogchen is just like TM practice, that is, it is the natural, primordial state or natural condition of the mind and a meditation practice aimed at realizing that condition - pure awareness. Dzogchen is nothing like TM practice. If you think it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two completely atypical theoretical questions from Turq

2011-06-07 Thread Vaj
On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:24 PM, wayback71 wrote: And see post #194922 of a few years ago written by Vaj about Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche. Vaj has spent some time with him. How did that pan out for your friend?

[FairfieldLife] French Muslims against evolution

2011-06-07 Thread Vaj
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2075011,00.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two completely atypical theoretical questions from Turq

2011-06-07 Thread Vaj
On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:38 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: It kind of shows how un-seriously Maharishi took this information that it would be up to ME to cough up this furball! [...] And given that the so called

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two completely atypical theoretical questions from Turq

2011-06-07 Thread Vaj
According to Robin Woodsworth Carlsen, TM-style enlightenment is actually of form of induced psychosis. It is perceived exactly as described, but is in fact a form of psychosis. Given that one can experience such things as the universe as fluctuations of consciousness while under the influence

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two completely atypical theoretical questions from Turq

2011-06-07 Thread Vaj
On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:55 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: [...] Yeah, exactly. If individual brains produce individual consciousnesses, you have to do some fairly elaborate acrobatics to speak of Consciousness. MMY was definitely an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two completely atypical theoretical questions from Turq

2011-06-06 Thread Vaj
On Jun 5, 2011, at 6:05 PM, seventhray1 wrote: I mean actually what you are describing sounds like the path Vaj is on. And what do you know about the path I'm on? Doesn't sound like much to be honest.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Two completely atypical theoretical questions from Turq

2011-06-06 Thread Vaj
On Jun 5, 2011, at 3:33 PM, turquoiseb wrote: Just for the fun of it, you understand. :-) The first: I bailed from the TMO early on, in 1978 or so. To my memory, at that point Maharishi had not really ever talked about anything beyond UC, his vision of Unity Consciousness. I have heard since

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two completely atypical theoretical questions from Turq

2011-06-06 Thread Vaj
On Jun 6, 2011, at 1:28 PM, WillyTex wrote: Apparently I'm the only one on this forum that has listened to the complete MMY recordings from 1967. Go figure. Hey! Just for the fun of it why not listen to the recordings, and then post comments on them? Really immaterial Willy. MMY began

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two completely atypical theoretical questions from Turq

2011-06-06 Thread Vaj
On Jun 6, 2011, at 2:02 PM, PaliGap wrote: Fair comment. So why not just simply tell us? Please try to use language that even a dolt such as I can understand. Maximum word length = 12 please (8 preferred). Loving, well-meaning, friendly, charitable, tolerant, sympathetic, modest minds

Re: [FairfieldLife] See how easy it is to be a fake guru and fool people

2011-06-02 Thread Vaj
The real Maharishi effect! ;-) On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Rick Archer wrote: http://www.time.com/time/video/player/0,32068,971515233001_2075202,00.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditators in Mongolia

2011-05-31 Thread Vaj
On May 31, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On May 31, 2011, at 1:00 PM, merlin wrote: Beautifull news from Mongolia It figures, since people in the developed nations have long since lost interest in the horse manure the TMO peddles, that they would then try and hit-up some of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-30 Thread Vaj
On May 30, 2011, at 3:38 AM, sparaig wrote: Ironically, it was YOU who first suggested to Unc (after he posted his Clint Eastwood in holy socks story) that he should consider a career in professional writing Well, if he ever needs a editor... :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Un-sustainable TM organization

2011-05-30 Thread Vaj
On May 30, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Buck wrote: Dateline Fairfield, Word around town here recently is that the monies given to build the new sustainable-living building on campus were squandered by poor design concept and an incompetent project management.A project pushed by some on the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On mind, spiritual experience, enlightenment, and death

2011-05-29 Thread Vaj
On May 29, 2011, at 12:50 PM, shanti2218411 wrote: Please go to Enlightened Spirituality.org- and see page on neo-advaitin Ramesh Balsekar.It appears that Mr Balseker rather than cutting through bullshit(i.e. relative to the meaning of vedanta) interjected a significant amount of it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-28 Thread Vaj
that Maharishi has corrupted it, then it all makes sense why Vaj would care. It comes from taking the knowledge very seriously. A tradition? Please. TM literature and research claims that it comes from an imagined Vedic tradition, when in fact, none of the mantras used in TM occur in Rig Veda

Re: [FairfieldLife] Do you hate yer eyePhone?

2011-05-28 Thread Vaj
On May 28, 2011, at 4:48 AM, cardemaister wrote: http://www.ihatemyiphone.com/page2of82/ The Iphone is just an other piece of shit from Apple. I am on the road 200+ days a year and spend more than 4 hrs a day on the phone. My company provides a blackberry that I enjoy and become

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-28 Thread Vaj
had gone into some disrepair. He does seem to believe that there are people capable of passing on the correct information in the right way, and that he has met some of them. (Feel free to jump in at any time Vaj considering this is your head we are autopsying! I just happened to read

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj’s attacks on MMY distract from the world’s biggest spiritual failure, the DL

2011-05-28 Thread Vaj
On May 28, 2011, at 4:37 PM, emptybill wrote: What V - We are of Peace is not telling you is that almost all Buddhist teachers tell their students not to indulge in disputes with students or teachers of other traditions of practice or other forms of meditation, whether Buddhist, Hindu,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-28 Thread Vaj
On May 28, 2011, at 2:56 PM, emptybill wrote: People? You mean actual Vedic pandits like SSRS just imagine it? Never met him, so no I didn't mean SSRS (who long ago dropped Mahesh off of his website as one of his gurus). Smart move, I thought. Gosh, and all this time he was just giving me

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-28 Thread Vaj
On May 28, 2011, at 6:07 PM, tartbrain wrote: Because he sees his infinite Self in you? LOL.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-28 Thread Vaj
On May 28, 2011, at 7:10 PM, emptybill wrote: Who are you trying to kid? You have proclaimed all sorts esoterica here. Except your implied training and your sources. That means they lack credibility. Aren't you ashamed of putting all these people on? No, of course not, as I'm not. I do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj’s attacks on MMY distract from the world’s biggest spiritual failure, the DL

2011-05-28 Thread Vaj
On May 28, 2011, at 7:27 PM, tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: wrathful compassion?? Are you kidding me, fool?? LOL your kids must just love you dude...In any case wrathful compassion is reserved as a tool for realized beings, not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj never learned, practiced, or taught TM

2011-05-27 Thread Vaj
On May 27, 2011, at 8:15 AM, turquoiseb wrote: But you won't be able to. You won't even try. Of course, if he does, my attorney will have a hay-day with him.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-27 Thread Vaj
On May 27, 2011, at 4:10 AM, cardemaister wrote: So, you seem to think that Shankara was -- according to Shankara-dig-vijaya by Maadhava-VidyaaraNya -- molesting women after having performed the yogic siddhi 'cittasya para-shariiraavesha' into the dead body of King Amaruka? Interesting

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-27 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2011, at 9:41 PM, richardnelson108 wrote: Thanks for giving me the post # on mahapatra. I can't really comment on it much. Some of it (about MMY's health) does match with what he told me. I can only say that he had only positive things to say about MMY, how much he loved him and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj never learned, practiced, or taught TM

2011-05-27 Thread Vaj
provide evidence that shows your lying and committing slander. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On May 27, 2011, at 8:15 AM, turquoiseb wrote: But you won't be able to. You won't even try. Of course, if he does, my attorney will have a hay-day with him.

Re: [FairfieldLife] the poisoning

2011-05-27 Thread Vaj
On May 27, 2011, at 10:18 AM, feste37 wrote: So, you poison your spiritual teacher, then for the rest of your life you choose to sit directly under his portrait, give him credit for everything you have done and are doing, and thank him by name after every speech or lecture you make.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-27 Thread Vaj
On May 27, 2011, at 10:24 AM, seventhray1 wrote: Thanks for providing these sources One of the reasons I don't post it every time this topic comes up, is because I assume most people who've done any objective examination of Mahesh and his character are already familiar with it from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-27 Thread Vaj
On May 27, 2011, at 11:00 AM, richardnelson108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On May 27, 2011, at 10:24 AM, seventhray1 wrote: Thanks for providing these sources One

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj never learned, practiced, or taught TM

2011-05-27 Thread Vaj
On May 27, 2011, at 2:10 PM, emptybill wrote: Who the fucking hell cares what you have to say about this? Go talk to Bariatric-I whose opinion is that everything is opinion. You'll be able to entertain him for a moment. As someone who used to teach at the Maharishi School, Edg's opinions

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the poisoning

2011-05-27 Thread Vaj
On May 27, 2011, at 2:47 PM, WillyTex wrote: Vaj: If Mahesh thinks that he is backed by Shankaracharya, then what is proper on his part is to tell people to take initiation from Shankaracharya... Stupid idiot - ordinary people can't take 'initiation' from a Shankaracharya, unless

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 25, 2011, at 10:04 PM, emptybill wrote: I'm selling the idea as a genuine return to an old world charm for imported nath-yogis, which V claims to be. A real old world charm a la the Nathas would be ashes.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2011, at 7:00 AM, seventhray1 wrote: Pile on? Vaj has simply been exposed as a liar. Not sure what standard you look for in evaluating statements. But Vaj made a series of assertions and all of them turned out to be false. When asked to back up these assertions, the best he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
point them out? Especially since he seems so sure that Vaj has been exposed as a liar. We'll see what happens. Over time these things have a way of coming out. We've heard the expose of Mahapatra, his close physician and Judith Bourque, among others. But mark my words, the historical record

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2011, at 8:32 AM, seventhray1 wrote: As I understand it Richard Nelson's sources were first hand sources who acutally were in a position to know some of the details which were alleged to have taken place. Richard says he spoke directly with the lawyer who handled SBS's will,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2011, at 8:50 AM, feste37 wrote: Have you even read the posts by Richard you quote here? He presents a very strong case against all the accusations made by Vaj. Read it. All you do is try to smear him as unstable, which is plainly not the case. What part of drooling TB don't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2011, at 7:19 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Pile on? Vaj has simply been exposed as a liar. Not sure what standard you look for in evaluating statements. But Vaj made a series of assertions and all of them

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2011, at 7:40 PM, wayback71 wrote: I guess it depends on how you define TB. In my version, a TB would never ever go attempt to find out more about the rumors of the murder of Guru Dev. TB's refuse to think about such info for more than a few seconds before relegating the bad

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2011, at 7:34 PM, richardnelson108 wrote: I am NOT a TB. And I have read Judith's book. TM works for me and I value what is has given me. Thats all. And what you don't seem to ever want to admit is that TM and MMY may have some value for some people. Well one unfortunate

Re: [FairfieldLife] Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-25 Thread Vaj
This is the guy Mahesh stole his formulas from, according to one of Balraj's students. His medicines were supposed to be used and made available to everyone, inexpensively. Mahesh tried to patent them and then sold them for very high prices (unusual for Ayurvedic medicines). Yet another

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-25 Thread Vaj
On May 25, 2011, at 10:21 AM, sparaig wrote: Its a bit silly for Vaj to say these things since BalRaj Maharishi's picture is still on the bottle. If he had REALLY objected, he could have sued to have it removed... Lawson I don't think he's the kind of person who would sue. He just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-25 Thread Vaj
On May 25, 2011, at 1:20 PM, richardnelson108 wrote: And yet you assume you know that Maharishi stole the formulas I heard it directly from one of Balraj's students. I guess one of the problems with the open, innocent hearts of healers like Balraj is that mountebanks like Mahesh love to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-25 Thread Vaj
On May 25, 2011, at 2:18 PM, emptybill wrote: Puleez Vaj loves us so much he just serves us the poisoned antidote to free us from ourselves and our enslavement. What a bodhisattva! Didn't you read his recent post where he declared his mission to free us from our bondage to TM and the whole

Re: [FairfieldLife] Tales From The Afterlife

2011-05-24 Thread Vaj
On May 24, 2011, at 6:49 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Since everybody's talking about the afterlife lately, here are a few excerpts from the smartest book I've read on the subject in some time, David Eagleman's Sum: Forty Tales From The Afterlives. The second one got a laugh out of me when I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And another bite...

2011-05-23 Thread Vaj
On May 23, 2011, at 9:10 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: It would be more helpful if you would hold your own pretensions in equal contempt. So are you going to list what you think they are or should I put this in my you

[FairfieldLife] Imagine

2011-05-23 Thread Vaj
Imagine there's no Heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say that I'm a

[FairfieldLife] Mind Games

2011-05-23 Thread Vaj
From: The Lennon Sutras We're playing those mind games together Pushing barriers, planting seeds Playing the mind guerilla Chanting the Mantra: Peace on Earth We all been playing mind games forever Some kinda druid dude's lifting the veil. Doing the mind guerilla Some call

Re: [FairfieldLife] YF and soma?

2011-05-22 Thread Vaj
On May 22, 2011, at 4:09 AM, cardemaister wrote: prolly caused mainly by Helicobacter pylori -infection You do know this can be taken care of with antibiotics, right? Yogic flying, much less so...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Vaj
On May 20, 2011, at 4:00 AM, turquoiseb wrote: As are we. Because the fish seemingly have no choice as to whether to bite or not. They are locked into attachment behaviors that run their lives. All that we do is dangle one of the attachments in front of them, and they don't just bite, they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Vaj
On May 20, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Peter wrote: Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: And so therefore we provide a great and important service: helping people wake up to their own attachments. Vaj, I can only surmise that you're joshing because if you're not, this would be very sad indeed. Wait till you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Vaj
On May 20, 2011, at 9:10 PM, WillyTex wrote: Sorry to not edit the below, but just wanted to emphasize the response ratio: one line vs spew. Sal: Lawson, I don't really think we need to revisit why the posting limit was implemented in the first place... So, we could at least get in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Vaj
On May 20, 2011, at 9:13 PM, WillyTex wrote: Please check the description of this group on its home page. Nothing Vaj posts is anything other than on topic, according to that. What you're saying is that Vaj posts things you don't like... emptybill: So should we pray to you in your own

[FairfieldLife] Dark Rishi II: Mahesh's downfall

2011-05-20 Thread Vaj
Marshy's first enlightened one spoke thus: Maharishi never, to my eyes anyway, seemed, as an individual celestial or angelic in any way whatsoever—although it could (and did) seem as if one were in the presence of an archangel—but that was just the vibe I think [ROFLOL]. Maharishi was very

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dark Rishi II: Mahesh's downfall

2011-05-20 Thread Vaj
On May 20, 2011, at 10:52 PM, emptybill wrote: So now it can be told. This is how petty little western dzogchen boys play in the yard. I'm sure Namkhai finds you amazing. Bet you can show him what is what. Bet you even have an Italian nickname now. It would certainly be appropriate for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-19 Thread Vaj
On May 18, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: Perhaps a useful question is this: just how deep does the purity of the teaching have to be to ensure that a meditator has a correct experience of TM, or some other technique. From what teachers told me, there seem to be two

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-19 Thread Vaj
On May 19, 2011, at 8:33 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On May 18, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: Perhaps a useful question is this: just how deep does the purity of the teaching have to be to ensure that a meditator

Re: [FairfieldLife] To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-19 Thread Vaj
On May 19, 2011, at 6:38 PM, richardnelson108 wrote: Hello Vaj- I could not help but respond to your post #277247. Why do you continually feel the need to act like an expert about things you know nothing about. You say we now know two things. We do not know anything. We do not know

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-18 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2011, at 11:30 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Learning about TM and Maharishi from the ironically named TM-Free Blog is like attempting to learn about black people from the KKK. Not quite logical.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-18 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2011, at 11:15 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: This appears to be correct. However, many who practice TM, many who practice other methods, do have very strong and seemingly unshakable beliefs related to the practises, so the question arises, because these beliefs did not

[FairfieldLife] Spiritual experience induction

2011-05-17 Thread Vaj
But it is so *beautiful*!Posted: 16 May 2011 11:49 AM PDTDerren Brown (http://tinyurl.com/3dmjkf) is a "mentalist" (http://tinyurl.com/zm4yt). Here he demonstrates how easy it is to induce a false spiritual experience in someone: http://tinyurl.com/278gx7z. And all false spiritual experiences

[FairfieldLife] The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-17 Thread Vaj
Unhooking From Maharishi's Teachings: Laurie Interviews Sudarsha about the Puja (Ceremony) Posted by Laurie at 5/14/2011 06:17:00 PM I (Laurie) left TM 30 years ago, after 10 years in the TM movement, and I have been deprogramming myself ever since. I now believe that everything I was

[FairfieldLife] Delusion, megalomania and enlightenment

2011-05-17 Thread Vaj
Perhaps endarkenment is a better word? From Maharishi's first certified enlightened human: Although it is embarrassing for me read the stuff, Gina Catena posted on this blog my account of getting enlightened—which includes Maharishi's comment: You're somewhere in the layers of wholeness.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2011, at 10:04 AM, WillyTex wrote: Vaj: ...bypassed my critical thinking, and went straight into my belief system. TM practice isn't based on beliefs, so apparenty Sudarsha was not practicing TM. In TM practice you go beyond or transcend critical thinking. Anyone who attempts

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual experience induction

2011-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2011, at 11:43 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Here's where I might quibble with some of your language. I didn't write it, it's from Joe Kellet on TMFree.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: The Experience of Bliss

2011-05-12 Thread Vaj
a disappointed sarcastic pessimist but you can call me Vaj for short Sorry, that name's been taken. How about ass? It's short and sweet.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: The Experience of Bliss

2011-05-12 Thread Vaj
On May 11, 2011, at 11:22 PM, seventhray1 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On May 11, 2011, at 8:45 PM, giveabighand wrote: The Norway 1963 checking notes are in a box in my basement. I will dig them out some day. Well you should scan away

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: The Experience of Bliss

2011-05-12 Thread Vaj
On May 12, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: Humorous responses indeed especially sharing the posterity part, but you are very harsh on TM Uncle Vaj, very harsh, considering it's all dreaming the dream of thought constructs. I just can't understand why you always have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: The Experience of Bliss

2011-05-12 Thread Vaj
On May 12, 2011, at 8:03 AM, seventhray1 wrote: You have to wonder where Vaj spends the majority of his spiritual capital. It's like he's married to his Buddhist (or whatever) tradition, but as soon as he's done his husbandly duties there, he's out the door to see his mistress, the TMO

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: The Experience of Bliss

2011-05-12 Thread Vaj
On May 12, 2011, at 8:38 AM, seventhray1 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On May 12, 2011, at 8:03 AM, seventhray1 wrote: You have to wonder where Vaj spends the majority of his spiritual capital. It's like he's married to his Buddhist (or whatever

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 05/10/2011

2011-05-11 Thread Vaj
On May 11, 2011, at 3:30 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: I liked Rick's statement that enlightenment may be accidental but practicing spirituality makes you accident prone which is totally spot on. The statement actually came from Baker Roshi. Oops! Another accident.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 05/10/2011

2011-05-11 Thread Vaj
On May 11, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Vaj wrote: On May 11, 2011, at 3:30 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: I liked Rick's statement that enlightenment may be accidental but practicing spirituality makes you accident prone which is totally spot on. The statement actually came from Baker Roshi. Oops

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: The Experience of Bliss

2011-05-11 Thread Vaj
On May 11, 2011, at 4:26 PM, giveabighand wrote: I came across a copy of the TM checking notes from a course in Norway in 1963. One of the instructions was, sit lazily. I loved it but some people were freaked out by such a radical instruction. Our entire western way of life is threatened

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: The Experience of Bliss

2011-05-11 Thread Vaj
On May 11, 2011, at 8:45 PM, giveabighand wrote: 2000 people sitting lazily in the domes are out to save the world. Its perfect! How could it not work! Good question. The only way it would not work is if, somehow, the dogma of effortlessness had spread thru the sangha and became an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: The Experience of Bliss

2011-05-11 Thread Vaj
On May 11, 2011, at 8:45 PM, giveabighand wrote: The Norway 1963 checking notes are in a box in my basement. I will dig them out some day. Well you should scan away and release them to Wikileaks. Include any detached, relevant historical info as a separate txt file.

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