nablusoss wrote:
Maharishi's genius dictated the commentaries,
Vernon did the english language bit and edited
the Sanskrit.
Well, the Sanskrit used in the Bhagavad Gita has
been set for thousands of years, according to
Vyasa and Pannini, so there wouldn't be any
editing of the Sanskrit.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:
I heard years ago that MMY and Vernon Katz worked on the Gita
translation and commentary - no one else. Vernon read various
translations to MMY and together they cobbled together what MMY
determined to be the purport of each
On Jul 5, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:18 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Maharishi's commentary on Chapter
7
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote:
From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Maharishi's commentary on Chapter 7 of the
Bhagavad-Gita
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 11:35 PM
In case anybody hasn't figured this out, Vaj is
anxious to stretch the definition of ghostwriting
as far as he can to encompass what those who are
knowledgable about publishing would consider editing.
He wants to do this because he knows most people
think of ghostwriting as not very respectable,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Jul 5, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Peter wrote:
Charlie Lutes used to read from Maharishi's commentary on the other
chapters. As Nabs said, they have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
In case anybody hasn't figured this out, Vaj is
anxious to stretch the definition of ghostwriting
as far as he can to encompass what those who are
knowledgable about publishing would consider editing.
He wants to do this
Judy, Thanks for explaining the ins and outs (pun intended) of the editing
profession. Now that Vaj has a heap of egg on his face for trying to slam
Maharishi for ghostwriting, he should just shut up about it once and for all.
But lying-fundy-TM-critic, glutton-for-punishment that he is, he
I first saw the raw, collective consciousness,
unedited, ghost edited and written,
type-written manuscripts way back in 1983 or so...
If these chapters exist, someone should make an
effort to publish them. When Lutes passed away,
wasn't this material part of his estate? Who
On Jul 6, 2009, at 11:16 AM, raunchydog wrote:
Judy, Thanks for explaining the ins and outs (pun intended) of the
editing profession. Now that Vaj has a heap of egg on his face for
trying to slam Maharishi for ghostwriting, he should just shut up
about it once and for all. But
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Jul 6, 2009, at 11:16 AM, raunchydog wrote:
Judy, Thanks for explaining the ins and outs (pun intended) of the
editing profession. Now that Vaj has a heap of egg on his face for
trying to slam Maharishi for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Jul 6, 2009, at 11:16 AM, raunchydog wrote:
Judy, Thanks for explaining the ins and outs (pun intended) of the
editing profession. Now that Vaj has a heap of egg on his face for
trying to slam Maharishi for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_re...@... wrote:
do.rflex wrote:
Charlie told us that someone swiped them out of the
safe at SRM headquarters in LA.
If so, then that would have been in 1964, around the
time the L.A. SRM headquarters closed down. So, how
did Vaj see
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Jul 6, 2009, at 11:16 AM, raunchydog wrote:
Judy, Thanks for explaining the ins and outs (pun intended) of the
editing profession. Now that Vaj has a heap of egg on his face for
trying to slam Maharishi for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:
Judy, Thanks for explaining the ins and outs (pun intended) of the editing
profession. Now that Vaj has a heap of egg on his face for trying to slam
Maharishi for ghostwriting, he should just shut up about it once and for
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Peter
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:35 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Maharishi's commentary on Chapter 7 of
the Bhagavad-Gita
Didn't Vernon Katz work/write
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
snip
Of course this isn't what I'm saying--Maharishi was a
ghostwriter--
(As Vaj knows, that isn't what Raunchy was saying either.)
what I'm saying is he used ghostwriters but of course
retained full control over the output.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Peter
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:35 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Maharishi's commentary
@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Maharishi's commentary on Chapter 7 of
the Bhagavad-Gita
Didn't Vernon Katz work/write the commentary along with MMY?
Yes. They worked together on the whole thing (Gita translation and
commentary).
Maharishi's genius
I missed the reading from MMY's commentary on ch 7 that was on the MOU
channel Sunday -- maybe they'll replay it:
GURU PURNIMA ASSEMBLY SCHEDULE
All times are Central Europe Time (Holland time)
Saturday 4th July
8:30pm Maharishi talk on Guru Dev
9:30pm close
Sunday 5th July
1:15pm
Forty years to edit one chapter.
Doesn't say much about the creative intelligence
or work habits of the MUM editors, does it? :-)
In a related product announcement, MUM Press is now
taking preorders for its edition of Tolstoy's War
And Peace. Based on the same work schedule, they
estimate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
Forty years to edit one chapter.
Um, 40 years *not* to edit one chapter.
Doesn't say much about the creative intelligence
or work habits of the MUM editors, does it? :-)
Says nothing at all about MUM editors, actually.
On Jul 5, 2009, at 12:09 AM, bob_brigante wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stan...@... wrote:
After a wait of more than 40 years, MUM Press is overjoyed to
announce the release of Maharishi's unedited commentary on Chapter
7 of the Bhagavad-Gita.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
I hear that chapter 18 was never completed. I was also surprised
(well, somewhat) to find out recently that SBAL was ghostwritten.
And we all know that Vaj is a liar and a Buddhist with an agenda.
On Jul 5, 2009, at 8:48 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
I hear that chapter 18 was never completed. I was also surprised
(well, somewhat) to find out recently that SBAL was ghostwritten.
And we all know that Vaj is a liar and a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
Obviously there's some other reason why the chapters
after 1-6 weren't released. Like, maybe MMY wouldn't
*let* them be released. Maybe he had more work he
wanted to do on them but never got around to it.
No, they were
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Jul 5, 2009, at 8:48 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
I hear that chapter 18 was never completed. I was also surprised
(well, somewhat) to find out recently that
On Jul 5, 2009, at 9:03 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
Obviously there's some other reason why the chapters
after 1-6 weren't released. Like, maybe MMY wouldn't
*let* them be released. Maybe he had more work he
wanted to do on them
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Jul 5, 2009, at 9:03 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
Obviously there's some other reason why the chapters
after 1-6 weren't released. Like, maybe MMY wouldn't
He certainly edited it in every detail personally spending months on this
glorious book.
……….
Reading commentaries of chapters 8 and 9 I found that they are not on the
same quality level as commentaries of chapters 1-6. It seems that author
spent much more time editing them in every detail.
On Jul 5, 2009, at 9:47 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
Well let's see Vaj: some time ago you were asking questions here on
FFL about how to get a copy of the SBAL. Did you get one, and did
you read it ?
I still have my original copy, I read it years ago. I never found much
of it that
On Jul 5, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Zoran Krneta wrote:
Did somebody finalize them?
and if not…
Why somebody release them knowing they were never finalized by
author?
The announcement said they were unedited, so it sounds like a no.
The reason they are probably offering them is to make money and
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Vaj
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:55 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Maharishi's commentary on Chapter 7 of
the Bhagavad-Gita
Oh come on! I liked it better when I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
I understand there's now a relatively complete copy circulating
on the web.
Yabut, does the stuff on the web have the gold decoration, color illustrations,
and bar graphs? That stuff really brings out the transcendental value
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
Obviously there's some other reason why the chapters
after 1-6 weren't released. Like, maybe MMY wouldn't
*let* them be released. Maybe he had more
On Jul 5, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
From a friend:
Actually, what happened (this is an eye witness account, mind you)
is yes to tape recorders; I was aware of only one in his bedroom.
Yes the tapes were transcribed. Then the Jarvises would read back
to MMY the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Jul 5, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
From a friend:
Actually, what happened (this is an eye witness
account, mind you) is yes to tape recorders; I was
aware of only one in his bedroom. Yes the tapes
were
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
It's interesting, I've seen new versions of Gita translation, which I
thought was by Katz, but is now listed as translated by MMY!
You are a freaking fool/Buddhist with an agenda.
Maharishi did the translation and
On Jul 5, 2009, at 3:11 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
It's interesting, I've seen new versions of Gita translation, which I
thought was by Katz, but is now listed as translated by MMY!
You are a freaking fool/Buddhist with an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
snip
Heck you didn't even know he used ghostwriters in SBAL,
so why should I believe you on the Gita!? I heard that
commentary was just hobbled together as he listened to
his followers read other commentaries, then he'd dictate
I understand there's now a relatively
complete copy circulating on the web.
Alex Stanley wrote:
Yabut, does the stuff on the web have
the gold decoration, color illustrations,
and bar graphs? That stuff really brings
out the transcendental value of it.
You mean like your brother's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:
But know that MMY approved every word that went into SBAL.
So not really a
ghostwriter; more a collective consciousness at work with the author of the
original content in on the completion of the work.
MMY used that
On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:28 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:
But know that MMY approved every word that went into SBAL.
So not really a
ghostwriter; more a collective consciousness at work with the
author of the
original content in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
You were probably initiated in a building with
several south-facing doors. Has your original teacher been
recertified? I wonder if putting aluminum foil over the southern doors
would help?
You are beyond help.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:28 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
But know that MMY approved every word that went into SBAL.
So not really a
ghostwriter; more a
: Maharishi's commentary on Chapter 7 of the
Bhagavad-Gita
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 9:03 AM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
authfriend jst...@... wrote:
Obviously there's some other reason why the chapters
after 1-6 weren't released. Like, maybe
On Jul 5, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Peter wrote:
Charlie Lutes used to read from Maharishi's commentary on the other
chapters. As Nabs said, they have been around for decades. Now go
get checked!
I first saw the raw, collective consciousness, unedited, ghost
edited and written, type-written
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Jul 5, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Peter wrote:
Charlie Lutes used to read from Maharishi's commentary on the other
chapters. As Nabs said, they have been around for decades. Now go
get checked!
I first saw the raw,
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Vaj
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 2:24 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Maharishi's commentary on Chapter 7 of
the Bhagavad-Gita
On Jul 5, 2009, at 3:11 PM
disagreeing with Nabby.
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Maharishi's commentary on Chapter 7 of the
Bhagavad-Gita
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Jul 5, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Peter wrote:
Charlie Lutes used to read from Maharishi's commentary on the other
chapters. As Nabs said, they have been around for decades. Now go
get checked!
I first saw the raw,
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of authfriend
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:18 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Maharishi's commentary on Chapter 7 of the
Bhagavad-Gita
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:
[Vaj wrote:]
I first saw the raw, collective
consciousness, unedited, ghost
edited and written,
[I wrote:]
No such thing as ghost edited. And as you've
already been told several times now, they
weren't ghost-written.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@...
wrote:
After a wait of more than 40 years, MUM Press is overjoyed to announce the
release of Maharishi's unedited commentary on Chapter 7 of the Bhagavad-Gita.
We have ordered a limited quantity that will be
Re: Fw: Maharishi's commentary on Chapter 7 of the Bhagavad-Gita
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