--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
wrote:
Some people seem to automatically conclude that it means
that there are beings living on another level. My view
would be to assume that a
Just as a followup, Susan, there are experiences I've had
that are MUCH weirder than any I ever had while in Rama's
presence, and thus of another order entirely. There is one
experience that happened when I was thousands of miles away
from him, had nothing to do with him, but was pretty amazing.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Just as a followup, Susan, there are experiences I've had
that are MUCH weirder than any I ever had while in Rama's
presence, and thus of another order entirely. There is one
experience that happened when I was thousands
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
Why it's fascinating to me is that I was with someone else
who saw exactly the same thing I did, and who to this day
describes it exactly as I do. There was no setup for
having this experience, no expectation of having
And then he'd let anyone who contributed go through
their spiel about what they saw without interruption
or comment, no coaxing or rewards for having
gotten it right. The most he'd do is *at the end* of
such a session, comment on who was more right than
others, or on whose
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote:
Well, he does provide 3 alternatives (and Jim identified a fourth) to deal
with the uncertainties of what guidance to follow in the living of one's
life. But how do you see that as a problem, rather than a sensible
Excellent! Thanks for the additional quotations. Quite a guy.
***
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote:
Well, he does provide 3 alternatives (and Jim identified a fourth)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
For example if they found that it was the same area of the brain that
generates internal images rather than the external area, would that make a
difference in how you thought about this? What if you knew
Steve, I'm not cautioning Jim at all, and it would be presumptious of me to do
so.
As far as I know he has never claimed or written about receiving instruction
from any celestial being nor has he attempted to proselytize or transmit any
guidance.
That's not him at all, at least on this
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
yeah, its nice to just talk about this stuff as just another subject.
As far as celestial perception, there is no way to prove
That is it. Very much hanging out!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote:
Steve, I'm not cautioning Jim at all, and it would be presumptious of me to
do so.
As far as I know he has never claimed or written about receiving instruction
from any celestial
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
Its funny that we commonly refer to external phenomena as
'spiritual experiences', when the really significant spiritual
experiences take place within.
Key point. Trouble is that when you state it like that,
the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
Its funny that we commonly refer to external phenomena as
'spiritual experiences', when the really significant spiritual
experiences take place
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
Its funny that we commonly refer to external phenomena as
'spiritual
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@...
wrote:
That is it. Very much hanging out!
Cat yoga
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik
lol - kitties are amazing!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@
wrote:
That is it. Very much hanging out!
Cat yoga
Yes, it's a very subtle thing with virtuous spiritual life-supporting activity
on the one hand, and then sinful life-denigrating on the other. If I could
draw you a picture of people's subtle body systems that reflect the soul, and I
ain't no artist, you'd be frightened at how ugly the dynamic
Please support the FairfieldLife sin resolution,
and then let's start to clean this place up.
-Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote:
Thanks!...excellent poetry, I love it.
featuring Alexandra Manukyan, in front of her Aries:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Xeno, I am in favor of 'sin' as it is delineated in the resolution, that is
my experience and I see that Paramahansa Yogananda has it right.
Note that God is run out as the resolution reads. Sit and meditate more on
the soul and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Xeno, I am in favor of 'sin' as it is delineated in the resolution, that
is my experience and I see that Paramahansa Yogananda has it right.
Even Maharishi and the Maharaja are in alignment with Paramahansa Yogananda and
the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Xeno, I am in favor of 'sin' as it is delineated in the resolution, that
is my experience and I see that Paramahansa Yogananda has it right.
Even Maharishi and the Maharaja are in alignment with Paramahansa
I am heartened that both Maharishi and the Maharaj should be in alignment with
the FFL sin resolution.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Xeno, I am in favor of 'sin' as it is delineated in the resolution, that
is my experience and I see that Paramahansa
I am heartened that both Maharishi and the Maharaj should be in alignment
with the FFL sin resolution.
This alignment of both Maharishi and the Maharaja might well bring along all
our TB supporters as a caucus block here for the FFL resolution about sin.
--- In
Om Sinner, where will you run?
I am heartened that both Maharishi and the Maharaj should be in alignment
with the FFL sin resolution.
This alignment of both Maharishi and the Maharaja might well bring along all
our TB supporters as a caucus block here for the FFL resolution
We should find it extremely helpful having this resolution on sin as a FFL
guideline, this resolution that sin would be that which weakens our expressed
essence of soul perfection and degrades it into mortal enslavement. From that
we can get appropriate public policy here about sin, sinning
I've a long time heard that the earth will be burning,
That the earth will be burning in that day.
O the earth will be burning in that day,
O sinner, where will you stand in that day.
We should find it extremely helpful having this resolution on sin as a FFL
guideline, this resolution
I've a long time heard that the sun will be darkened,
That the sun will be darkened in that day.
O the sun will be darkened in that day,
Om sinner, where will you stand in that day?
I've a long time heard that the earth will be burning,
That the earth will be burning in that day.
O the
I've a long time heard that there will be a judgment,
That there will be a judgment in that day.
O there will be a judgment in that day,
Om Sinner, where will you stand in that day?
I've a long time heard that the sun will be darkened,
That the sun will be darkened in that day.
O the sun
You that mourn your follies past,
Precious hours and years, and years laid waste,
Turn within, O turn and live,
The Unified Field can still, can still forgive.
Sweet Redeeming from within,
Born on wings, on wings of love.
I've a long time heard that there will be a judgment,
That there
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
You that mourn your follies past,
Precious hours and years, and years laid waste,
Turn within, O turn and live,
The Unified Field can still, can still forgive.
Sweet Redeeming from within,
Born on wings, on wings of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
You that mourn your follies past,
Precious hours and years, and years laid waste,
Turn within, O turn and live,
The Unified Field can still, can
Thanks!...excellent poetry, I love it.
featuring Alexandra Manukyan, in front of her Aries:
http://www.laluzdejesus.com/shows/2012/Manukyan/Manukyan_LG_at-work.jpg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:
Thanks!...excellent poetry, I love it.
featuring Alexandra Manukyan, in front of her Aries:
http://www.laluzdejesus.com/shows/2012/Manukyan/Manukyan_LG_at-work.jpg
Om, would you ask Alexandra to cover up her subjects.
-Buck
Dear FFL Owner, Moderators and Members in good standing;
For a sake of a more unified discussion here on FairfieldLife@yahoo I wish to
make a motion that we adopt a resolution of the definition of 'sin' as is
proffered by Paramahansa Yogananda, That here at FFL hence forth 'sin' shall
be known
Buck, there is disagreement here on the following terms. God, free-will, soul.
Best of luck!
Praying is like a rocking chair - it'll give you something to do, but it won't
get you anywhere. - Gypsy Rose Lee
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Dear FFL Owner,
Xeno, I am in favor of 'sin' as it is delineated in the resolution, that is my
experience and I see that Paramahansa Yogananda has it right.
Note that God is run out as the resolution reads. Sit and meditate more on the
soul and free-will with this. However, I would urge you to not split
O Unified Field, pardon me three sins.
I have in contemplation clothed in form
Thee who art formless.
I have described [in words] Thee who art ineffable.
And in visiting temples I have ignored
Thy omnipresence.
-Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
Hi
O Integrity, there are no sins.
Form or formless matters not.
Presence always,
Especial location no necessity.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
O Unified Field, pardon me three sins.
I have in contemplation clothed in form
Thee who art formless.
I have
Show pity, O Unified Field, forgive;
Let a repenting rebel live.
Are not Thy mercies large and free?
May not a sinner trust in Thee?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
O Integrity, there are no sins.
Form or formless matters not.
Presence
My crimes, though great, cannot surpass
The pow'r and glory of Thy grace;
Great Unifying Field, Thy nature hath no bound;
So let Thy pard'ning love be found.
Show pity, O Unified Field, forgive;
Let a repenting rebel live.
Are not Thy mercies large and free?
May not a sinner trust in Thee?
Yet save a trembling sinner, Unified Field
Whose hope still hov'ring round Thy word
Would light on some sweet promise there,
Some sure support of nature against despair.
My crimes, though great, cannot surpass
The pow'r and glory of Thy grace;
Great Unifying Field, Thy nature hath no bound;
Yet save a trembling sinner, Unified Field
Whose hope still hov'ring round Thy word
Would light on some sweet promise there,
Some sure support of Nature against despair.
My crimes, though great, cannot surpass
The pow'r and glory of Thy grace;
Great Unifying Field, Thy nature
Hi Judy, you wrote, You do understand that Robin does not claim to be
enlightened and is not seeking enlightenment, that he thinks it's a snare and a
delusion, that he believes he was enlightened decades ago and has made a huge
effort since then to de-enlighten himself.
After reading a lot of
This is a fascinating post and, if I have more time soon I would like to
address this and Judy's comment on my post. When this process happens, there
can be a lot of disorientation. Enlightenment can be like being sucked into a
black hole as all of your personal stuff is dissembled.
Jim, this is a very lovely description of your experience;
many thanks.
Whether it has anything to do with Robin's comment about
witnessing, or the accuracy of his assertion that he was
in Unity, I couldn't say, obviously; he'd have to address
that himself.
I think I found the post in which he
Thanks for picking up on this Edg. Comments below.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote:
Curtis,
I believe in the Absolute. I'd even say that I KNOW the Absolute -- except
that that would seem as if I'm claiming enlightenment. But, intellectually
speaking,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
snip
Whenever you have a god, and a relation thereto, you have duality, you
do not have unity, or perhaps you have a broken unity. To have a
relationship, there has to be a separation between you and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
wrote:
snip
Whenever you have a god, and a relation thereto, you have duality, you
do not have unity, or perhaps you have a broken
Curtis, (I'm totally babbling here...sorry for the slog needed to get to the
salient points -- IF THERE ARE ANY.)
I'm willing to use religious metaphors as tools, but let's face it, they've
sometimes triggered knee-jerks in ya. I say God, and I mean whatever the
fuck ultimate reality is, and
Hi Judy, thanks as always for your candor and groundedness. I agree Robin is
the ultimate experiencer of himself. He has made other references to life being
completely out of his control while he was undergoing this Unity. And if Unity
it was, that fits the model too, in that CC, GC, UC all
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
Hi Judy, you wrote, You do understand that Robin does not claim to be
enlightened and is not seeking enlightenment, that he thinks it's a snare
and a delusion, that he believes he was enlightened decades ago and
Glad you find it useful! Enlightenment is anything but static.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
Hi Judy, you wrote, You do understand that Robin does not claim to be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@ wrote:
snip
Whenever you have a god, and a
Hi Xeno, Glad you enjoyed it. It has taken me awhile of watching and reflecting
to write this down. As is often the case, it became quite clear once I decided
to express it. If you want to discuss it more, that would be fun!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
I think I figured out something important concerning the dialog between
theists and atheists. When theists argue against atheists, it usually
concerns the actual existence of a God. The arguments are
Excellent rant, sir. You definitely stuck the landing from my POV.
Interestingly enough, I've been thinking about this same subject,
but from a slightly different perspective. I think that some people
just react badly to someone suggesting to them that they don't
really know the things they think
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
wrote:
I think I figured out something important concerning the dialog between
theists and atheists. When theists argue against atheists, it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
I think I figured out something important concerning the dialog
between theists and atheists. When theists argue against atheists, it
usually concerns the actual existence of a God. The arguments are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
snip
Basicaly, there are two types of Gods. The personal god of
Abraham, Issac and Jacob. And the god of the Spinoza,
absolutely impersonal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
snip
Basicaly, there are two types of Gods. The personal god of
Abraham,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
snip
Basicaly, there are two types of Gods. The personal god of
Abraham, Issac and Jacob. And the god of the Spinoza,
absolutely impersonal having no special people and no active
interst in causation.
snip
Do
Curtis,
I believe in the Absolute. I'd even say that I KNOW the Absolute -- except that
that would seem as if I'm claiming enlightenment. But, intellectually
speaking, I have conceptualized about the Absolute in my writings about Advaita
so much that, well, I've sorta mood made myself into a
I can honestly say that I spent a lot of my life trying to figure LIFE out.Find
answers to the the BIG questions.. is their a GOD?
, what happens when I die? etc. Then one day I realized you really can't figure
LIFE out and then my mind went silent or maybe it was my mind went silent and
then I
curtisdeltablues wrote:
I think I figured out something important concerning the dialog between
theists and atheists. When theists argue against atheists, it usually
concerns the actual existence of a God. The arguments are often at the
most abstract range of philosophical discussion where
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
snip
I think Curtis' view is a good one. I think Robin's problem
is he cannot let go of the personal. You cannot control people
without personal interaction. Enlightenment is about passing
beyond the personal
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