[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO buses?

2005-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/4/05 10:32:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think it would have been a matter of arresting people who refused to leave, but they could have announced emergency evacuation plans on Radio and TV starting Friday night and started

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/4/05 10:38:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They were school buses..ANYONE can drive them. Are you a school bus driver? Doesn't exactly take a rocket scientist to drive a school bus. There are lots of stories of young people breaking

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 10:32:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think it would have been a matter of arresting people who refused to leave, but they could have announced emergency

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/4/05 10:52:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stretch yourself, MDixon and Shemp. There aretwo major, obvious exceptions to the rule thatANYONE can drive the buses.I'll give you one for free: Only folks who knowhow to drive can drive the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/4/05 11:18:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Mayfield said the strength of the storm and the potential disaster it could bring were made clear during both the briefings and in formal advisories, which warned of a storm surge capable of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/5/05 1:04:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been in the past, for special events.Shemp's right on this one in many states, whereonly a regular driver's license (not a commerciallicense) is required to drive a school bus.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO buses?

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 10:38:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They were school buses..ANYONE can drive them. Are you a school bus driver? Doesn't exactly take a rocket scientist to drive a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 10:52:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stretch yourself, MDixon and Shemp. There are two major, obvious exceptions to the rule that ANYONE can drive the buses. I'll

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 11:18:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mayfield said the strength of the storm and the potential disaster it could bring were made clear during both the briefings and in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As for the administration trying to politicize or lay blame. I have heard Bush from day one say he expected his people to not get involved in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As for the administration trying to politicize or lay blame. I have heard Bush from day one say he expected his people to not get involved in that, but stay focused on the job. From the New York Times this morning: September

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/5/05 9:00:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've seen only one such story. The guy was arrestedand charged with theft. I've heard of a couple others as well. But doesn't change the fact that almost anybody can drive a school bus. To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/5/05 10:27:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The effort is being directed by Mr. Bush's chief political adviser, Karl Rove, and his communications director, Dan Bartlett. It began late last week after Congressional Republicans called

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/5/05 10:27:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The effort is being directed by Mr. Bush's chief political adviser, Karl Rove, and his communications director, Dan Bartlett. It

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO buses?

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The governor didn't call up the National Guard till Wednesday night and didn't declare martial law till Friday morning. Martial law has not been declared in Louisiana. I'm not sure where you're getting this idea. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/5/05 9:00:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've seen only one such story. The guy was arrested and charged with theft. I've heard of a couple others as well. But doesn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/5/05 9:00:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've seen only one such story. The guy was arrested

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/5/05 9:00:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] In fact, the National Response Plan, accepted by the Bush administration in December 2004, provides that in the event of a major emergency that is likely to overwhelm the resources of state and local governments, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] As I pointed out in my previous post, that simply is not the case. The administration's National Response Plan explicitly designates DHA (which includes FEMA) as the quarterback in preparing for as well as responding

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/5/05 4:37:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The President today declared an emergency exists in the State of Louisiana and ordered Federal aid to supplement state and local response efforts in the parishes located in the path of Hurricane

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/5/05 9:00:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've seen only one such story. The guy was arrested

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/5/05 4:37:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The President today declared an emergency exists in the State of Louisiana and ordered Federal aid to supplement state and local

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/5/05 5:07:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: INCLUDING little old ladies...who, by the way, seem to be the drivers of the school buses I usually see on the streets. In the days leading up to the hurricane when everyone was told to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO buses?

2005-09-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Yahoo! News Photo_ (http://news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=storyu=/050901/480/flpc21109012015) Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory evacuation? News flash: Buses don't drive

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-04 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/4/05 4:11:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory evacuation?News flash: Buses don't drive themselves. So neither the governor nor the mayor had a plan to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO buses?

2005-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Yahoo! News Photo_ (http://news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=storyu=/050901/480/flpc21109012015) Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-04 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/4/05 5:34:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WIthout enough people to make 100's of thousands of arrests (in the case of New Orleans), how do you enforce a mandatory evacuation? I don't think it would have been a matter of arresting people

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 4:11:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory evacuation? News flash: Buses don't drive

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-04 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/4/05 5:50:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So neither the governor nor the mayor had a plan to rescue or evacuate NO poor.Oh, how odd, somehow everything else in my postmust have dropped off somehow. Yeah , I saw the whole thing the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 5:50:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So neither the governor nor the mayor had a plan to rescue or evacuate NO poor. Oh, how odd, somehow everything else in my post

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO buses?

2005-09-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Yahoo! News Photo_ (http://news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=storyu=/050901/480/flpc21109012015) Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-04 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/4/05 6:51:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, a moment's reflection should tell youthat, given they knew how many people there werewithout transportation, and that they *did* haveplans to deal with the problem, it isn't verylikely

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-04 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/4/05 7:20:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory evacuation? News flash: Buses don't drive themselves.News flash to Judy:They were school buses..ANYONE

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO buses?

2005-09-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Yahoo! News Photo_ (http://news.yahoo.com/news?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 5:34:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WIthout enough people to make 100's of thousands of arrests (in the case of New Orleans), how do you enforce a mandatory

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO buses?

2005-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Yahoo! News Photo_ (http://news.yahoo.com/news?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 6:51:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, a moment's reflection should tell you that, given they knew how many people there were without transportation, and that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 7:20:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory evacuation? News flash: Buses don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-04 Thread authfriend
Two more points about the purported politicization of the Katrina disaster: First, if you're going to object to politicization, you ought to object to the politicization coming from the Bush administration. There have been a number of solid accounts of how they've been attempting to shift the