Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-02 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 08/01/2014 08:40 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re Wake up foggy headed? Clear your head with with the kapha mantra hoom though if you really want to clear it try the Ganesh mantra: om gam ganapataye namaha. Upset stomach? Use the pitta mantra. Constipation? Try the vata

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-02 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 08/01/2014 08:02 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 8/1/2014 1:22 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: The first study should be to have each subject practice all three mantras. What we want to see is the effect of each mantra.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-02 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
You probably want to watch season one first. On 08/01/2014 07:54 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re BTW, Utopia is a UK Channel 4 series and very dark. Just took a look at the trailer. Could be a good one for me. Thanks.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-02 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
We were always taught that during TM we should allow the mantra to change its sound and not interfere. Sometimes it can even be just a pulse; sometimes even just a modulation of other thoughts that flit through the mind; sometimes just the ghost of a sound . . . I'm sure if someone told me to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-02 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
The first study should be to have each subject practice all three mantras. What we want to see is the effect of each mantra. This would be impossible because there is no way to structure a double-blind scientific study with a control group. On 8/1/2014 1:22 PM, Bhairitu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-02 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 08/02/2014 09:41 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: We were always taught that during TM we should allow the mantra to change its sound and not interfere. Sometimes it can even be just a pulse; sometimes even just a modulation of other thoughts that flit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-02 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hey that's pretty good! From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2014 3:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero   “The mantra is usually

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-02 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Really? Phonetically I'm crying or crying is closer to kring. On 08/02/2014 12:31 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: /“The mantra is usually in Sanskrit, but George Harrison has stated that his is an English word included in the lyrics of the Beatles' song I Am the Walrus. I've

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-02 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I happen to have the Magical Mystery Tour DVD so I played the tune with treble EQ'd high to hear the ride out lyrics better. They are repeating everybody toke up but we knew that way back then. :-D On 08/02/2014 07:39 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re I Am the Walrus: I'm

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-01 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/1/2014 10:19 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Janov does not look as if he really has the breadth of knowledge to evaluate meditation in a manner scientists would consider rigorous, since his practice is limited to a particular kind of therapy. There are however dangers

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-01 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/1/2014 10:19 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Janov does not look as if he really has the breadth of knowledge to evaluate meditation in a manner scientists would consider rigorous, since

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-01 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
The research I would like to see is a meditator using different mantras, particularly the ayurvedic mantras; hoom, shrim and raam to see how they correlate with brain waves. Science needs to study these as the effects of sounds as thoughts. On 08/01/2014 08:19 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-01 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bhairitu, I'd like to see that research too. And really go for it, researching different mantras with different imbalances, at different times of the year, etc. On Friday, August 1, 2014 11:53 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-01 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
The first study should be to have each subject practice all three mantras. What we want to see is the effect of each mantra. With most research they are just looking at only one mantra. Of course the TMO would object to such a study but other researchers may not. The subject should also be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-01 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bhairitu, I think I'll play around with them wrt emotions. Like if I'm feeling a heavy emotion, I'll try the kapha pacifying mantra; anger, I'll try the pitta one; and for fear I'll try the vata pacifying one. Thanks, this is really practical info. On Friday, August 1, 2014 1:22 PM, Bhairitu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-01 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 08/01/2014 06:30 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Janov's Primal Therapy has led a lot of people to mental breakdown also. (Google Primal Therapy.) I'm not knocking the guy (I want us to experiment with as many therapies as possible) but there will obviously be tragedies as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-01 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/1/2014 12:43 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, I'd like to see that research too. And really go for it, researching different mantras with different imbalances, at different times of the year, etc. Apparently, there are no double-blind studies

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-01 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Or what he thought was his mantra. A lot of folks got mantras from the list but they thought it was something different. Someone once told me their mantra was whig. :-D BTW, Utopia is a UK Channel 4 series and very dark. HBO is doing a US version. On 08/01/2014 07:37 PM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-01 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/1/2014 1:22 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: The first study should be to have each subject practice all three mantras. What we want to see is the effect of each mantra. This would be impossible because there is no way to structure a double-blind scientific

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-01 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/1/2014 8:30 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Janov's Primal Therapy has led a lot of people to mental breakdown also. (Google Primal Therapy.) I'm not knocking the guy (I want us to experiment with as many therapies as possible) but there will obviously be tragedies as we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-01 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re Wake up foggy headed? Clear your head with with the kapha mantra hoom though if you really want to clear it try the Ganesh mantra: om gam ganapataye namaha. Upset stomach? Use the pitta mantra. Constipation? Try the vata mantra.: We were always taught that during TM we should allow

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-01 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/1/2014 9:52 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re Or what he thought was his mantra. : Yes. I always enjoyed the anecdote that Mia Farrow related. It seems she sneezed during her initiation and asked MMY to repeat the syllable. He refused (!) so she always wondered

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arthur Janov is my new hero

2014-08-01 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/1/2014 10:07 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re Someone once told me their mantra was whig: Are there a lot of sadistic TM teachers out there who enjoy giving their victims useless mantras? All mantras are useless when you think about it - it's only when you let go of