In a message dated 8/11/06 10:47:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's a mothers right to choose. Women have the right to decide if
they want to carry a child regardless of it's
sex. Perhaps, but the social issue is
overwhelming the
In a message dated 8/12/06 1:06:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"authfriend" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"sparaig" sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
In a message dated 8/11/06 11:18:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ban
anything that can be used to determine the sex of the fetus.
Ultrasound while the mom isn't allowed to look, would be OK, as
long as the doctor doesn't reveal the sex. Hey, that
In a message dated 8/12/06 7:21:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ban anything that can be used to determine the sex of the
fetus. Ultrasound while the mom isn't allowed to look,
would beOK, as long as the doctor doesn't reveal the
sex.Hey,
In a message dated 8/12/06 7:34:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Gee. One
of the reasons given by pro-choicers has always been that legalizing
abortions makes it safe because women are going to go underground and
go to abortionists anyways when it's not
In a message dated 8/12/06 8:18:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Certainly you wouldn't want some politician or dictator telling you
what the sex of a child you are permitted to bring into the world
or abort should be.This really isn't the simplistic
In a message dated 8/12/06 8:19:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What about the mothers right to know? What about
it? Now could you imagine that being said to a prospective
mother in the USA? For all the doctor knows, she's coming in for a
routine
In a message dated 8/12/06 8:19:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What I'm
against is abortion based on the sex of the fetus.
But Judy, the mother doesn't have to give a reason why she wants to
abort a fetus. She doesn't even have to tell the ultra sound
In a message dated 8/12/06 8:22:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So it is
"evil" to abort a fetus because of it's sex?"Evil" in this case
meaning having negativeconsequences. "Lesser of two evils" is what
wecall a figure of speech.
Allowing the Chinese to
In a message dated 8/12/06 9:03:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would
imagine the Chinese think the current policy will fix the situation
quickly. Once there is an over abundance of men and too few women,
fewer children of either sex will be born and
In a message dated 8/12/06 10:01:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do the
Chinese believe in equal rights for women?Do they believe in the right of
the elderly to areasonably comfortable old age, by government meansif
necessary? Do the Chinese believe access
In a message dated 8/12/06 9:54:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How
prevalent do you think such decisions are in the U.S. compared to
China? Actually, I think no child should be aborted unless
the mothers life is endangered, any where. However the
In a message dated 8/12/06 10:04:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So you
acknowledge that not allowing the mother toknow the sex of a child would
be a lesser evil, Ipresume.
Yes it would be a lesser evil if it meant saving the life of the fetus, but
we don't
Judy, are you advocating banning ultrasound? Because if so, then
you've got a whole new set of problems, which is also happening in
China for those women who didn't find out the sex of their child, (or
couldn't get an abortion) and then simply abandon the kids in
droves--to the tune of over a
On Aug 12, 2006, at 2:07 PM, authfriend wrote:
Abandon the female kids, I assume you mean, right?
Right.
Like I said, it's a complex problem. This just adds
another layer of complexity. I don't think the
solution is to continue to allow women to abort
females selectively, do you?
Yes, it
In a message dated 8/12/06 1:04:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
China
already has such a problem due to their former one-child-per-family
law.
Do you think the Chinese think it's a problem? Do you think they could be
looking further down the road and seeing
On Aug 12, 2006, at 4:07 PM, authfriend wrote:
The pressure to raise sons in Chinese culture is
immense. And with the one-child-per-family policy they've had for
the past few decades, many women there are put in an absolutely
horrendous position.
Unquestionably (although Lawson says they've
In a message dated 8/12/06 1:07:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This
gives a whole new meaning to "central planning".LOL. Either
you're being really stupid here, or you're deliberately misunderstading the
point. Which is it?
Neither, you miss the point
In a message dated 8/12/06 1:14:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now
could you imagine that being said to a prospective mother in the USA?
For all the doctor knows, she's coming in for a routine check up and wants to
know the sex of her child. She doesn't
In a message dated 8/12/06 1:13:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But
Judy, the mother doesn't have to give a reason why she wants to abort a
fetus. She doesn't even have to tell the ultra sound tech or doctor
she has any plans to abort and she has every
In a message dated 8/12/06 1:27:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would
imagine the Chinese think the current policy will fix the
situation quickly. Once there is an over abundance of men and
too few women, fewer children of either sex will be born and
In a message dated 8/12/06 1:24:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, I think no child should be aborted unless the mothers life is
endangered, any where. However the accepted culture is that women
control their bodies and reproductive rights and
In a message dated 8/12/06 1:26:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What I'm
against is abortion based on the sex of the fetus.
But Judy, the mother doesn't have to give a reason why she wants
to abort a fetus. She doesn't even have to tell the ultra
In a message dated 8/12/06 1:30:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy, are you advocating banning ultrasound? Because if so, then you've
got a whole new set of problems, which is also happening in China for
those women who didn't find out the sex of
In a message dated 8/12/06 1:27:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Except
it hasn't worked out that way. And the CHinese HAVE backed off from the social
planning thing, to a great extent.
You just posted earlier that they are correcting the problem of allowing
In a message dated 8/12/06 1:42:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Heh. I'm
talking about the social consequences of having single-sex familes on a scale
of 10's or even 100's of millions, and you've boiled it down to a
"abortion is bad and we all know it"
Do a Google search on one child policy+China and see how many
articles you get. If it's been changed, it's not by much. Apparently
in rural areas you can have two if the first is a girl, but it's been
like that for a while.
Sal
On Aug 12, 2006, at 5:57 PM, authfriend wrote:
Sal claims
I don't get Lawson's messages. See the quotes from about 300,000
articles posted saying that the policy is alive and well. Since much of
China is urban, that's a pretty big only.
And that wasn't even the issue in any case, as you know.
Sal
On Aug 12, 2006, at 6:48 PM, authfriend wrote:
On Aug 12, 2006, at 7:12 PM, authfriend wrote:
I don't get Lawson's messages.
The more fool you.
Yeah, I feel really deprived.
See the quotes from about 300,000
articles posted saying that the policy is alive and well.
Yes, yes. Nobody's arguing that it isn't.
Since much of China is
On Aug 12, 2006, at 7:54 PM, authfriend wrote:
I thought you didn't get his posts.
I read them in *your* posts and those of others, Judy, geez--don't you read your own posts? How am I supposed to avoid them there? Stop quoting him and there would be a lot less of a problem.
Or do you only get
Oops, I meant, of course, boys.
On Aug 12, 2006, at 8:15 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
the cultural preference for girls was
With Lawson's, yes. It's not something I normally do--only with the
more inane, compulsive posters like him, which, thankfully, are few.
I'm hardly alone. In fact, of the ones who receive email, I'd wager
more have him blocked than not.
Sal
On Aug 12, 2006, at 8:33 PM, authfriend wrote:
On Aug 12, 2006, at 9:43 PM, authfriend wrote:
(You seem to have deleted the context showing
that I meant you've had quite a bit of experience
living with egg on your face.)
Almost as much as you, I would guess.
I'm just mystified as to why anyone would think
enough of Lawson's posts are
In a message dated 8/11/06 12:29:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
a
message dated 8/10/06 6:00:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes: Prediction: there will be more outrage over this than
over the Chinese practice of throwing female
In a message dated 8/11/06 3:16:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I thought they just aborted them It's pretty
high-tech to be able to tell the sex of an unborn.
Is there some reason Chinese wouldn't have that tech? India
does. India has the
In a message dated 8/11/06 3:21:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you support abortion, you can't be against aborting female
fetuses.You can if the ONLY reason is because they're
female.
It's a mothers right to choose. Women have the right to decide
In a message dated 8/11/06 7:04:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You can if the ONLY reason is because they're
female.It's a mothers right to choose. Women have
the right to decide if they want to carry a child regardless of
it's sex. Perhaps,
In a message dated 8/11/06 9:42:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's a mothers right to choose. Women have the right to decide if
they want to carry a child regardless of it's sex.
Perhaps, but the social issue is overwhelming the
individual
In a message dated 8/11/06 10:25:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ban
anything that can be used to determine the sex of the fetus. Ultrasound
while the mom isn't allowed to look, would be OK, as long as the
doctor doesn't reveal the sex.Hey, that might
In a message dated 8/10/06 6:00:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Prediction: there will be more outrage over this than over the Chinese
practice of throwing female infants out with the
trash...
I thought they just aborted them
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