In a message dated 1/8/06 4:43:47 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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They've
seen it in their minds, as it was describedto them by other people who
made it seem like a bigdeal. The description has become Truth for
them;anything that deviates from this is
In a message dated 1/8/06 7:25:43 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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How
many of you have actually seen Jyotir Math? It's not that
big a deal. They've seen it in their minds, as it was
described to them by other people who made it seem like a big
deal. The
In a message dated 1/7/06 11:30:26 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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It is
obvious that Gurudev lived in greater physical comfort as Shankaracharya
than he did as a lone Sanyasin wandering around. It is also obvious that
*somehow* money flowed into the math at
In a message dated 1/7/06 3:57:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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It
is obvious that Gurudev lived in greater physical comfort as
Shankaracharya than he did as a lone Sanyasin wandering around. It is
also obvious that *somehow* money flowed into the math at
In the yogic tradition, there are three kinds of bondage, " trividho bandhah"--two of them are vaikrtika bandha, renunciates becoming attached to objects of comfort and dakshina bandha renunciates who become dependent on money from lay people. These are warning signs that a renunciate is still
I've noticed that, Off. Your posts practically sparkle with the sweet light of rationality. How any of these foolish TM teachers could think otherwise is beyond me.
Sal
On Jan 6, 2006, at 8:30 AM, off_world_beings wrote:
No I am stating rationality. I don't care about your subjective
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TorquiseB writes: Big snip
The show went on to say that the only sane
thing to do with skunks is avoid them, because
pretty much everything
On Jan 5, 2006, at 6:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:Now imagine being a young, naive guy from India who has either lived with his mother or in an ashram all his life, and who suddenly winds up not only being the object of focus of tens of thousands of TM students but the object of focus for the
On Jan 5, 2006, at 7:55 AM, Vaj wrote:On Jan 5, 2006, at 6:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:Now imagine being a young, naive guy from Indiawho has either lived with his mother or in an ashram all his life, and who suddenly winds up not only being the object of focus of tens of thousands of TM students
On Jan 5, 2006, at 9:23 AM, off_world_beings wrote:Ridiculous. This is what it has been like since the beginning of time. Someone has to pay for the spiritual movement. In ancient times an Ashram in India was paid for by donors and patrons, a lot of volunteerism on the part of those who can't
In a message dated 1/5/06 2:34:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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The very
fact that someone should have to take outa loan to learn to meditate is
what's criminal. Andthe organization that places the people of the
worldin that position are the criminals.
In a message dated 1/5/06 2:45:03 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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How many of them has Maharishi proclaimed as fully enlightened?
They haven't come up with a price for that
yet.LOL.But it's not as far-fetched as you think. I know
ofone spiritual author
On Jan 5, 2006, at 10:46 AM, off_world_beings wrote:Nonsense. Even Jesus accepted money for his Church. Monks and priests have always been paid for their services since the beginning of time. Ancient cultures considered these services paramount and the most practical thing they could do, and
On Jan 5, 2006, at 11:06 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my opinion too. His thinking was more in accordance with Guru Dev. Not quite - as I read the quotes from Guru Dev, but more etichal than what he shows these days. I
In a message dated 1/5/06 11:12:43 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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People
continue to meditate because they have good experience, regardless of what
they have paid or not paid.If they have not good experience, they stop
even if they have paid $ 2.500.
And if
In a message dated 1/5/06 7:11:46 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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And if
they stop after paying such a large sum, which could have been used
to pay off the car or get ahead on the mortgage etc, they could
easily feel fooled and become bitter about
it.Wow,
on 1/4/06 9:14 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it only at MUM that you can take out a student loan to learn TM?
I think you can live anywhere and get it, by applying through MUM somehow.
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In a message dated 1/4/06 9:31:57 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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Yes ,
the TNB's are so mad at Maharishi for wasting his time on promoting
healthy living, electric vehicles, solar panel factory in India, organic
farming and greenhouses, and a balanced and
On Jan 4, 2006, at 10:21 AM, off_world_beings wrote:Yes , the TNB's are so mad at Maharishi for wasting his time on promoting healthy living, electric vehicles, solar panel factory in India, organic farming and greenhouses, and a balanced and nature- friendly lifestyle...oh, and I almost
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.
on 1/4/06 10:58 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could you tell us more about the Purusha center in the Himalayas.
I havent gotten to it yet, but I think theres a chapter about it in Steve Briggs book. He showed slides
on 1/4/06 11:27 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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on 1/4/06 10:58 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could you tell us more about the Purusha center in the Himalayas.
I haven¹t gotten to it yet, but I
on 1/4/06 11:48 AM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You would NOT want to visit Uttar Kashi these days. The town is
sprawling, polluted, and all that ... Plus it has a curfew, and
the 'vibes' are really low. Not the pretty place I visited in 1976
and definitely not the
You can get the digital copy for 4.00 US dollar on Amazon. You'll need the recent version of Acrobat Viewer to see it.On Jan 4, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Ingegerd wrote:I have been searching for Steve Briggs book "India-The Land of Truth", in the bookstores in Norway, with no result. If I am to order
On Jan 4, 2006, at 12:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote:They're living a monastic life, and are really doing it. They meditate for a living. Sponsors support them. Most of them have been doing it for decades. A lot of them are really great guys. You'd love them. Yeah but the real question is "do they
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on 1/4/06 11:27 AM, TurquoiseB at
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on 1/4/06 10:58 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could you tell us more about the Purusha center
in
Rapid enlightnement and global prosperity will be
ensured if all
people took advantage of all the Maharishi
Technologies for
Enlightenment. Full cost is $300,000. Which is only
$3 a day over 100
years.
I'd rather go whole hog and be a Raja for $10 a day
over 100 years.
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In general, southern India is a much nicer and cleaner
place than northern India.
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Paul Mason
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You would NOT want to visit Uttar Kashi these
days. The town is
sprawling,
In a message dated 1/4/06 12:20:29 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
They're
living a monastic life, and are really doing it. Theymeditate for
a living. Sponsors support them. Most of them have been doing it
fordecades.How many of them has Maharishi proclaimed
Great. But what I meant was, that *you* put in the dough on a daily basis, not others.
Sal
On Jan 3, 2006, at 4:38 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
That is exactly what I am thinking of doing. I will start a website
this year to accomplish this very thing. Anyone want to help put the
website
On Jan 3, 2006, at 5:50 PM, off_world_beings wrote:I know what you mean't . I will probably put some in myself, and ask others to contribute. Are you ready to give up your cafe-lattes so that some inner city kid can benefit? No reallyare you? No, I know enough now that I wouldn't want to
I'm not the one haranguing people about how they should give up this and that and basically do anything so they can get the $$ to start. I don't believe they should. I don't believe the benefits of TM, whatever they might be for an individual, are worth that kind of $$ or anything close to it.
No, no interest in your scheme as I feel it's basically a huge waste of time. How many different ways does somebody have to say it? If you want to spend your time and $$ like that, be my guest. I choose to help people, when I can, on a far more concrete level.
Sal
On Jan 3, 2006, at 5:28 PM,
And I just noticed you didn't answer my question, so I'll post it again, below.
Sal
On Jan 3, 2006, at 5:28 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
> But since *you* feel that way, I assume you will be putting in all
or
> most of the $$. Correct?
Exactly. :) Just think of all those people who *could* be learning if he actually believed in what he is telling everyone else to do.
Sal
On Jan 3, 2006, at 5:59 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
Yes. What is the price of another person's enlightenment? Priceless.
Off should be doing three jobs,
In a message dated 1/3/06 7:12:46 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How
stupid, everyone should give what they are comfortable with. And cut down
on the cafe lattes and dumb hollywood movies you keep
watching.
Why not find somebody that is in real need of
In a message dated 1/3/06 7:24:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are
just mad because it REALLY riles you that TM only costs $3.30 a day for 2
years.
I would love to see the TMO accept payments of $3.30 a day for
2 years. I would get an advanced technique
In a message dated 1/3/06 7:37:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why does
your judgemental mind assume that I don't?Do you give money to the
needy?OffWorld
Geee Off, don't take it so personally. I meant it as something
anybody can do, not a prescription just
on 1/3/06 7:38 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How stupid. Childish. Pathetic too. Attacking the poster because you
can't get around the argument that TM only costs $3.30 a day for 2
years, and that there is no argument they can come up with to
counter it. They are truely
In a message dated 1/3/06 8:30:18 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I never
give money to the needy. However I do buy food and clothing for
them occasionally and give cash tocharitable organizations
that help the needy such as supplying shelter to the homeless.
on 1/3/06 8:50 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
People learn TM in India. Many people, I know some of them. I also
know people who have learned for free or virtually nothing in 3rd
world countries. Many schoolchildren too learn. 400+ Buddhist monks
just learned TM in
No, I know enough now that I wouldn't want to give
that. There ARE
better choices. TM would be last on my list.
Last on my list as well. Even if TM cost 25 dollars
and the TMO were as dynamic and idealistic as it was
in 1975, I would still direct interested people
elsewhere. Of all the
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