[FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Sri Ravi Shankar on Feelings

2007-09-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --In other words, most descriptions of E. are fraught with a degree of error; and/or are incomplete, and may include contradictions. Nevertheless, it's amusing and sometimes informative to try! I would extend what you say

[FairfieldLife] Tallinn!

2007-09-24 Thread cardemaister
Professor Angot(sp?) from France, I believe, has been teaching Vedic recitation several times in Estonia. I wonder if it somehow could show in this pic from Tallinn. :0 http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=45392

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge -- say something true

2007-09-24 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim emptybill@ wrote: snip The Houri-s sound so much better. OK, I can't stand it any longer. With plural nouns, why do you put a hyphen between the word and the s?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge -- say something true

2007-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Ain't it awful? You work so hard trying to confuse me, and you're never

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bottom line is enlightenment is really a possibility this life time but the master has to be enlightened, sat Guru, and then from the opinion of my Guru, it is essencial to be working one to one. The Guru is the light,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: Bottom line is enlightenment is really a possibility this life time but the master has to be enlightened, sat Guru, and then from the opinion of my

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge -- say something true

2007-09-24 Thread Vaj
On Sep 23, 2007, at 7:43 PM, billy jim wrote: OK Vaj, I'm going to enter the fray here. The way this conversation is preceding you’re going to get tired soon from the suffocating squeeze of the pythoness. (I actually mean this as a complement to Judy.) Then the conversation will

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge -- say something true

2007-09-24 Thread Vaj
On Sep 23, 2007, at 7:18 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ain't it awful? You work so hard trying to confuse me, and you're never successful. For the record, the very *definition* of paranoia. Unless of course she was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread Vaj
On Sep 22, 2007, at 9:06 PM, Ron wrote: 1. I had felt caged in all these years from not living in a proper vastu Response from my Guru when I asked is anything had ever caged her in- no 2. cognitions of vedas Response from my Guru- cognitions, discoveries, knowing what needs to be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/22/07 1:32:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, big thanks for the little Koran kid; pure stuff. Almost converted me to Islam on the spot.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Peter's comment/ fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-24 Thread Bronte Baxter
Peter wrote: Ron, unfortuanately you're wasting your breath on these mala covered samsarins who insist on individuality and can not recognize the function of the ego in this belief that somehow realization of That includes individuality. Poor deluded bhogis. Bronte: I would say it's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-24 Thread Vaj
On Sep 24, 2007, at 6:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: Bottom line is enlightenment is really a possibility this life time but the master has to be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter's comment/ fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-24 Thread Peter
--- Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter wrote: Ron, unfortuanately you're wasting your breath on these mala covered samsarins who insist on individuality and can not recognize the function of the ego in this belief that somehow realization of That includes individuality. Poor

[FairfieldLife] Regarding Judy's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread Bronte Baxter
I replied to this once. Somehow it never posted, so here goes again: From Judy, quoting Bronte: To claim that the ego is only a Me is to perceive only its limited expression. Such limited expression certainly needs dissolving for cosmic bliss to occur. But the Me only needs to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/22/07 1:32:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, big thanks for the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 22, 2007, at 9:06 PM, Ron wrote: 1. I had felt caged in all these years from not living in a proper vastu Response from my Guru when I asked is anything had ever caged her in- no 2. cognitions of

[FairfieldLife] Re: I saw my first Gestapo van this morning/Giving in to the Flame

2007-09-24 Thread Richard J. Williams
Kid the Willy? Duveyoung wrote: We kid the Willy around here. Get it? No kidding!

[FairfieldLife] Interview with David Crosby

2007-09-24 Thread do.rflex
I see plenty of future for music. Music is magic. It's been mankind's magic since the first caveman danced around his fire going 'Ugga bugga, hugga bugga!' That was music, and he was happy. And we're still doing it, and it makes us happy. It will transcend; it will go on.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 22, 2007, at 9:06 PM, Ron wrote: 1. I had felt caged in all these years from not living in a proper vastu Response from my Guru when I asked is anything had ever caged her in- no 2. cognitions of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge -- say something true

2007-09-24 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because of this somewhat elitist POV, numerous schools and numerous realizers did view Shankara as a fanatic of demon. The dvaita master Madhava called Shankara a deceitful demon who had perverted the teachings of

[FairfieldLife] Re: I saw my first Gestapo van this morning/Giving in to the Flame

2007-09-24 Thread Richard J. Williams
It was a joke, lurk. Gawd, does TM kill people sense of humor? TurquoiseB wrote: It's yer classic Internet Troll behavior. However, this is clearly a flame and an insult. I've been a TMer since 1964 and a respondent on this group for over five years, long before Barry stalked Judy over

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/22/07 1:32:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, big thanks for the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge -- say something true

2007-09-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim emptybill@ wrote: snip The Houri-s sound so much better. OK, I can't stand it any

[FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding Judy's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I replied to this once. Somehow it never posted, so here goes again: From Judy, quoting Bronte: To claim that the ego is only a Me is to perceive only its limited expression. Such limited

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/24/07 9:44:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He sure was a cute *little devil* wasn't he? Was this the verse that says the rocks shall cry out, there's a Jew behind me, come and kill him? Was *which* the verse?? The Koran is in Arabic,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Speaking about Kundalini and explaining it is said to be at the base of the spine, I believe this statement is from MMY's lecture on Kundalini, as such I think you make an interesting point, is MMY functioning from Aham

[FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding Judy's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter brontebaxter8@ wrote: I replied to this once. Somehow it never posted, so here goes again: From Judy, quoting Bronte: To claim that the ego

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/24/07 8:58:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy, big thanks for the little Koran kid; pure stuff. Almost converted me to Islam on the spot. You'd think it would take decades to learn to do that wonderful ornamentation so cleanly and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread Vaj
On Sep 24, 2007, at 11:35 AM, BillyG. wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Speaking about Kundalini and explaining it is said to be at the base of the spine, I believe this statement is from MMY's lecture on Kundalini, as such I think you make an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 24, 2007, at 11:35 AM, BillyG. wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: 3. Speaking about Kundalini and explaining it is said to be at the base of the spine, I believe this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/24/07 8:58:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy, big thanks for the little Koran kid; pure stuff. Almost converted me to Islam on the spot. You'd think it would

[FairfieldLife] Plato's Ideal (Re: A two minute lifetime with Beatles soundtrack)

2007-09-24 Thread Duveyoung
TurquoiseB wrote: I haven't listened to the Beatles in years, and probably won't much in the future. Bad mix, dude. Edg: Turq, I was raised listening to 78 RPM, scratchy records, with poor speakers, and I never once thought the music was all that impaired on its journey to me. At the time, who

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/24/07 11:40:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He sure was a cute *little devil* wasn't he? Was this the verse that says the rocks shall cry out, there's a Jew behind me , come and kill him? Bigotry is alive and well. Yeah, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread Peter
--- BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember the post about MMY saying a doctor could prescribe for you a medicine and still be sick himself? (paraphrased) It doesn't matter whether or not MMY is enlightened, he is NOT a personal Guru, as such the idea of whether or not he is a Sat Guru

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/24/07 9:44:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He sure was a cute *little devil* wasn't he? Was this the verse that says the rocks shall cry out, there's a Jew behind me, come

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/24/07 11:40:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He sure was a cute *little devil* wasn't he? Was this the verse that says the rocks shall cry out, there's a Jew behind me ,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 24, 2007, at 11:35 AM, BillyG. wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: 3. Speaking about Kundalini and explaining it is said to be at the base of the spine, I believe this

[FairfieldLife] Plato's Ideal (Re: A two minute lifetime with Beatles soundtrack)

2007-09-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: I haven't listened to the Beatles in years, and probably won't much in the future. Bad mix, dude. Edg: Turq, I was raised listening to 78 RPM, scratchy records, with poor speakers, and I never once

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 9/24/07 11:40:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time, do.rflex@ writes: He sure was a cute *little devil* wasn't he? Was this the verse

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: 3. Speaking about Kundalini and explaining it is said to be at the base of the spine, I believe this statement is from MMY's lecture on Kundalini, as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember the post about MMY saying a doctor could prescribe for you a medicine and still be sick himself? (paraphrased) It doesn't matter whether or not MMY is enlightened, he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey ! How do you KNOW that Bush isn't the Hitler of today ? ;-) Hey, you're right, I give, Bush is the next Hitler! Especially since his term will expire next year! :-OOO

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Sep 24, 2007, at 11:35 AM, BillyG. wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: 3. Speaking about Kundalini and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I don't care what you call it...

2007-09-24 Thread Bhairitu
Sad? Sounds like a good time to me. Maybe sad if you're not getting any. :) off_world_beings wrote: Yes folks, its sad but predictable. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and I'm sorry, given whatever Hindu or Newage stuff you wish

[FairfieldLife] Heroes Season 2 Starts Tonight

2007-09-24 Thread Bhairitu
Just a reminder for the Heroes fans here and for those who don't know the show it is about a group of people who have specific siddhi like powers that plays on NBC. No it isn't a reality based show filmed in Fairfield. :-D For even more fun check out Chuck which precedes Heroes. I've seen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding Judy's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread yagyax
--Nope Billy - Bronte is more correct - although Auth is technically correct to a certain extent.. The bottom line, beyond the lively exchange of ideas, amounts to a thorough, deepseated POV about how one views the world and the ultimate goal of human evolution: (as discussed in a previous

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles in India

2007-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiAhzpGO1Qkmode=relatedsearch

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread Ron
Response: I will ask my Guru to comment, as I have been saying, I am not enlightened. I can only provide some intellectual response. Such as, the vedas is not what is cognized, it was relative things cognizesd- vedic math is relative, so it jyotish, and scripture. when all relative is gone,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles in India

2007-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiAhzpGO1Qkmode=relatedsearch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiAhzpGO1Qkmode=relatedsearch=

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Hey ! How do you KNOW that Bush isn't the Hitler of today ? ;-) Hey, you're right, I give, Bush is the next Hitler! Especially since his term

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-24 Thread Ron
Comment: Personally, I get the feeling that the vast maj- ority of gurus who claim that their followers need them to get enlightened in reality need their followers far more than the followers need them. If the followers weren't there hanging off every word and paying the bills, these gurus would

[FairfieldLife] let it be

2007-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oZYqAeIdYkmode=relatedsearch=

[FairfieldLife] Re: across the universe

2007-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
another favorite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbirjVeI_Pk

Re: [FairfieldLife] let it be

2007-09-24 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
Thank you for this, Nablusoss. On 9/24/07, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oZYqAeIdYkmode=relatedsearch= To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding Judy's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread Peter
--- yagyax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously, the false I does vanish but this is only one component of what makes up a person, which distinguishes one person from another: MMY is not SSRS, etc. What distinguishes MMY from SSRS are space/time qualities. Of course these are

[FairfieldLife] Re: I don't care what you call it...

2007-09-24 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sad? Sounds like a good time to me. Gross. Old man with young chic. You're twisted. Maybe sad if you're not getting any. :) Then if you are not getting any, you should try it. OffWorld off_world_beings wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread oneradiantbeing
I have a few responses to some statements made below: If one knows what ice cream tastes like - one doesn't say it is said to taste sweet - this is not the words from knowing directly. This conclusion may or may not be correct. The use of the word said may indicate an idiosynratic use of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Response: I will ask my Guru to comment, as I have been saying, I am not enlightened. snip Comment: If you or anyone else can explain to me how the Vedas can be cognized *before* enlightenment, I owe you a nickel. Such a

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch on TM

2007-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jzJjeT_rNQ

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread oneradiantbeing
I'd rather not comment on the question about the Vedas --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: Response: I will ask my Guru to comment, as I have been saying, I am not enlightened.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have never had any personal contact with MMY I can easily understand why a person would say MMY is not Realized. Especially the last decade or so he has made many an outrageous comment. So, from a conceptual level of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Heroes Season 2 Starts Tonight

2007-09-24 Thread Peter
All right baby, HEROES !! What a great show. I only hope its sophomore season will be as good as last year...Save the cheerleader, save the world. --- Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a reminder for the Heroes fans here and for those who don't know the show it is about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: If you have never had any personal contact with MMY I can easily understand why a person would say MMY is not Realized. Especially the last decade

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread Ron
Cognitions and revelations are what my guru had prior to enlightenment and also this what s gave my Guru the understanding that enlightenment was there. As I said, there was a time where my guru could know anything about something and other such things The point is- who is there to cognize

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread Vaj
On Sep 24, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Ron wrote: Response: I will ask my Guru to comment, as I have been saying, I am not enlightened. I can only provide some intellectual response. Such as, the vedas is not what is cognized, it was relative things cognizesd- vedic math is relative, so it jyotish,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding Judy's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread hyperbolicgeometry
---No, you're wrong. In a broad definition of individual, one can define an entity as become composed of relative components that do not converge on a entity called the I. Thus, Ramana Maharshi is definitely an individual, otherwise he would not dare use such words as I and me in the context

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point is- who is there to cognize something? jim_flanegin wrote: I am not calling into question anything else regarding siddhis or other powers prior to enlightenment. All that is said about that, I agree with. Just

[FairfieldLife] individual clarified

2007-09-24 Thread hyperbolicgeometry
Individual defined as: (online dictionary). 1. a single human being, as distinguished from a group. 2. a person: a strange individual. 3. a distinct, indivisible entity; a single thing, being, instance, or item. 4. a group considered as a unit. 5. Biology. a. a single organism capable of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 24, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Ron wrote: Response: I will ask my Guru to comment, as I have been saying, I am not enlightened. I can only provide some intellectual response. Such as, the vedas is not what is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread Vaj
On Sep 24, 2007, at 6:10 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Ron, is the reason you mentioned 'cognizing the vedas' because of the rumor spread by TB's (probably purushoids) that Mahesh 'cognized the Vedas'? This is one of many self-perpetuated myths the org puts forth to help justify

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 24, 2007, at 6:10 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Ron, is the reason you mentioned 'cognizing the vedas' because of the rumor spread by TB's (probably purushoids) that Mahesh 'cognized the Vedas'? This is one of

[FairfieldLife] Regarding Yagyax's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread Bronte Baxter
Hi, Yagyax. Never saw you on the forum before. This was brilliant. However, I'm confused what you meant by this part: IMO, if certain Gurus refuse to recognize the fact that they are still individuals, so be it. After dying, perhaps they will no longer exist as individuals, really;

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 24, 2007, at 6:10 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Ron, is the reason you mentioned 'cognizing the vedas' because of the rumor spread by TB's (probably purushoids) that Mahesh 'cognized the Vedas'? Such a rumor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding Yagyax's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Were you, instead, meaning to say that the false I is the thing that makes us separate from other persons? If that is the case, I disagree. A purified individual ego still distinguishes between itself and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/24/07 12:24:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, nothing like that. When was the last time you saw a children's program in the US calling for everyone to go out and kill a Muslim or call them apes? Call for references that Palestinian TV has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread Vaj
On Sep 24, 2007, at 6:44 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 24, 2007, at 6:10 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Ron, is the reason you mentioned 'cognizing the vedas' because of the rumor spread by TB's (probably purushoids) that

[FairfieldLife] Regarding Peter's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread Bronte Baxter
--- yagyax wrote: Obviously, the false I does vanish but this is only one component of what makes up a person, which distinguishes one person from another: MMY is not SSRS, etc. -- Peter wrote: What distinguishes MMY from SSRS are space/time qualities. Of course these are different

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/24/07 12:22:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would *violent acts against Muslims* include Zionists establishing a Zionist state? For moderate Muslims? I kind of doubt it, don't you? I guess that would depend on how you define *moderate*

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 24, 2007, at 6:44 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Sep 24, 2007, at 6:10 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Ron, is the reason you mentioned 'cognizing the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/24/07 12:24:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, nothing like that. When was the last time you saw a children's program in the US calling for everyone to go out and kill a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Sep 24, 2007, at 6:10 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Ron, is the reason you mentioned 'cognizing the vedas' because of the rumor spread by TB's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Funny, I never heard it either. That a blissninny may have asserted it here doesn't mean the TMO is putting it forth. You remind me of

[FairfieldLife] cognizing the Vedas - Ganapati Muni

2007-09-24 Thread tertonzeno
There's evidence Ganapati Muni could cognize the Vedas before he supposedly became Enlightened through the assistance of Ramana: http://www.angelfire.com/realm/bodhisattva/ganapathi.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/24/07 12:24:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] What specifically have I said that was bigoted? Your whole context is bigoted and it smacks of the contemporary

[FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding Yagyax's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread yagyax
--Hi Bronte...you ask if the false I makes individuals separate. That contributes to it among those ignorant of the Self, since such persons are mainly concerned about the veneer of psychomaterial existence, which is innately separate without consideration of pure Consciousness; in fact evil

[FairfieldLife] To Yagyax / Love locates the heart of individual

2007-09-24 Thread Bronte Baxter
Hey Yagyax, I like you. I've found another kindred spirit here. But it's fun hashing it out with all these non-kindred spirits, isn't it? It refines the intellect. Your point that what really makes people individuals is the point of view I like, but would put a slight spin on it.

[FairfieldLife] Enlightened Ones are not caged in and do not have cognitions

2007-09-24 Thread Ron
Oh well, maybe he did, and certainly from my POV lives the Reality of the Vedas. And no doubt ime he has the ability to cognize them-- I'm not disputing that. But he sure hasn't had the time to *document* his cognition.: Hridaya Puri: One doesn't live the reality of the vedas and at the same time

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/24/07 6:32:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's Israeli government propaganda, plain and simple. That's my view, unless you can provide verifiable unbiased corroboration. Those lying Jews! Right? **

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/24/07 6:32:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's Israeli government propaganda, plain and simple. That's my view, unless you can provide verifiable unbiased corroboration. _YouTube - Palestinian TV: Inciting Children To Commit a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding Judy's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my understanding is that if you identify with the Self rather than the self, Judy, in your framework: Who is the you that is identifying with the small self? If the answer is the ego, then what is the differentiation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/24/07 6:32:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's Israeli government propaganda, plain and simple. That's my view, unless you can provide verifiable unbiased corroboration.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/24/07 6:32:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's Israeli government propaganda, plain and simple. That's my view, unless you can provide verifiable unbiased corroboration.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I question whether or not he is enlightened especially when he started damning democracy and suggesting Bush was Hitler, that doesn't strike me as coming from someone who is enlightened! Your posts raises some

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/24/07 7:07:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Calling for an explanation of a religious belief that evokes high emotion and political activism, that often ends in death for a group of people, is hardly anti- Islamic, unless of course it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding Judy's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread Bronte Baxter
Hey, New Morning. I've been loving your posts on opinions that are 97.9 % true, rules of engagement for dialoging, etc. Your observations are very profound to me. Regarding this question, I'm not sure what you are asking -- this is thorny stuff to put into words, so abstract -- but

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/24/07 7:07:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Calling for an explanation of a religious belief that evokes high emotion and political activism, that often ends in death

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I question whether or not he is enlightened especially when he started damning democracy and suggesting Bush was Hitler, that doesn't strike me as coming from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread Bronte Baxter
Replying to New Morning's excellent questions (below) on this thread: It appears that all these people we hold up as enlightened masters wear the shine off their halos the more we get to know them. I say the reason is our concept of enlightenment. If all that means to us is that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Regarding Judy's Comment/ Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rocks have no self-referential consciousness so they are not individuals. And enlightenment, you have suggested, does not need a nervous system. Which is quite a distinct proposition from the almost truism that

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch on TM

2007-09-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jzJjeT_rNQ On as in David Lynch on Steroids?

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