[FairfieldLife] 2014 Predictions

[jr_esq]

Joni Patry, a Neo-vedic astrologer, makes some startling predictions for this 
year, including the very cold winter that the US is experiencing now.  She also 
predicts a breakout of wars in March due to the conjunctions of Mars with 
Saturn and Rahu.  The details are recorded in this video clip: 
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZWnK1a8QcQ 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZWnK1a8QcQ

[FairfieldLife] Regarding Girish

[Michael Jackson]

Regarding Girish and his enormities, didn't I hear way back a long time ago in 
that old rumor mill called the TM Movement that an individual's enlightenment 
positively accelerated the evolution and enlightenment of his/her relatives?

Wonder how the 8th wonder of the world, Enlightened Marshy can be explained in 
light of Girish's behavior, or perhaps I have it all wrong, maybe it is Girish 
practicing life "as is our tradition."

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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in the room

[Bhairitu]

It is currently 67 degrees here.  I have the door between the garage and 
kitchen open since the garage will heat the kitchen up more for free.  I 
have also opened the front door for the warmer air to come in.  The 
shingles reflect sunlight which is good for summer and not so good for 
winter.


Just one more thing to try to keep my energy bill down since the 
December one arrived yesterday (they do this by smart meter) and it was 
more than twice the one for December.  Most of that was for natural gas 
which the water heater and furnace use.  Usually that part of the bill 
is around $8.  I have also dropped the furnace setting to 60 degrees and 
"hold temp".   Maybe some wall insulation would have helped.  After the 
shingles were installed in 2007 I had more insulation installed in the 
attic bringing it up to code.


This all wouldn't be so bad if the clear skies didn't bring the 
temperature down to the 30s at night.



On 01/03/2014 08:58 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:


*Om hell we had worst than even that. I get city-dweller folks who 
finding I am a livestock man ask me how my animals are doing in this. 
Hell my animals are built by natural law for this. They needs good 
food, good water and good shelter that is out of the winds and they do 
really fine with it. These same people never ask me with any empathy 
how I the livestock man actually out in it are doing with this. City 
people are just clueless in real life.  Merde, this ain't bad we've 
had a lot worst.   Ask me in a couple days when it is supposed to be 
really bad with really low temps on the thermometer and some high 
winds too. We have had even worst though. *


*-Buck, 200 percent on the Range and in the Dome*

[FairfieldLife] #5# When the New Year Arrives

[Paulo Barbosa]

  To Reflect...

  When the New Year Arrives

  "... I have trusted in the LORD without wavering" (Psalms 26:1).

  "Are there resentments you would like to remove from your heart?

  Some old sins that continue your soul to hurt?
  Gather them together today and throw them far away,

  when the New Year arrives.

  Bad thoughts are heavy and difficult to bear, my friend,

  and life is too short, from beginning to end.

  Be generous with yourself alway - keep nothing bad for another day --

  when the New Year arrives."

  There are only a few days for the New Year to arrive. What are we storing up 
for it? The bitterness, the frustrations, the incessant battles, the anguish of 
the passing year, the accumulated uncertainties, the tears and the lost hopes?

  No! With firmness and assurance, No!

  Things past and ugly should be left behind, burnt in the fire of 
forgetfulness. After all, they should have served for our edification, growth 
and spiritual strengthening.

  The New Year is coming and we should begin to exercise our faith, to open the 
parcels of our hopes, to light the lamps of the trees of our dreams, to plant 
the seeds that enable us to reap the fruit of the blessings for which we so 
anxiously hope.

  When the New Year arrives, everything will be different. That is what we 
desire, it is what we need to believe. The Lord will be with us, guiding our 
footsteps, holding our hands, celebrating with us each victory gained.

  When the New Year comes, our world will be more colourful, the sun will shine 
more intensely, there will be more smiles on our face, and our joy will be 
complete.

  Do you continue harbouring the deceptions of the old year, or have you 
already cast everything away, leaving room for everything good that God will 
give you in the New Year that is about to arrive?

Paulo Barbosa
A blind in internet
tprob...@terra.com.br

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where People Live

[Bhairitu]

A lot of cities are run by councils populated by real estate agents 
whose agenda is to line their own pockets.  DO NOT vote for those people 
and campaign against them. We have this problem in this community.  
These scoundrels are re-elected even over people who have degrees and 
experience in city management because the populace here is too dumb to 
get it. Apparently much of the town is pseudo-libertarian (the 
demographic is 30 somethings with kids so I don't give them much credit 
for brains) and believe the business caste is best at ruling things. 
They couldn't be more wrong.


On 01/04/2014 12:06 PM, Richard Williams wrote:

Plano, Texas

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Rita's niece and her husband, a bean counter, both work and live in 
Plano - it's right next to Dallas. According to what I've read, Plano, 
Texas is one of the best managed cities in the U.S. More than half of 
Plano’s adult population have at least a bachelor’s degree last year, 
one of the best rates in the nation. Plano's close proximity to 
Dallas, combined with efficient public transportation, offers 
residents easy access to jobs in the larger city. More than 12% of 
Plano workers were employed in the finance industry last year Go figure.


It's all about management. When I worked at the community college I 
took several courses in Business Management - Small Business 
Management, Business Communications, Business Math, Records Management 
and Accounting. I was awarded a Level One Certification in Business 
Administrative Systems. So, it's interesting to read about city 
management. In a recent survey, the best-run city is Irvine, 
California and the worst run city is San Bernardino, California. Go 
figure.


Read more:

'The Best and Worst Run Cities in America'
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/best-worst-run-cities-america-193707188.html


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Richard Williams 
mailto:pundits...@gmail.com>> wrote:


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Someday soon we are going to be selling everything and packing up
what's left to move to a place that's right for us. There are good
reasons to move and good reason to stay where we are. Each area
has its pros and cons. Every place you live is a compromise and
there is no perfect place

For example some place have good weather all year like Laguna
Beach, California, and some places have weather that sucks, like
Cut Bank, Montana. For others, weather is perhaps not as big of a
deal.

Most people like what they already know and the older people get
the more they have resistance to change. For me, moving isn't a
big deal, since I spent eighteen years a military brat, living in
over ten U.S. states, England and Japan.

After college I lived in California for thirteen years, both north
and south, and then moved to Austin, Texas for twelve years.
Recently Rita and I visited her hometown, Detroit, and visited her
sister for a few weeks.

And, I've driven through most of the U.S. at one time or another.
I love northern California and the Escondido area around San Diego
- lots of business opportunities;good schools; avocados.. These
are the many reasons people like to live near the ocean or the
mountains.

But, there are some negatives also, like in California where the
state is struggling, which means the cities are now struggling.
The bureaucracy is increasing out there. Some people are getting
tired of dealing high property taxes - Prop 13 sets property tax
on homes at 1% - and sales taxes are going up all the time. If you
buy a $1M home you'll pay $10,000 just in taxes to live in San
Diego County!

Is there some place that would be an almost ideal place to live?

If you take out a map of the U.S. you can easily cross off several
locations. The first thing we did was cut out places where homes
are very expensive, like Seattle, Washington or San Francisco,
California or Portland, Oregon. We want someplace that is cheap
where you can park a lot of cars and play loud music.

So, you can cross off places where it's too hot or too dry or too
wet - bad weather. And, we want to avoid tornadoes, hurricanes,
flooding, earthquakes, blizzards and deserts. That rules out most
of the middle of the country, California, Texas, Arizona, Utah,
New Mexico, Montana and most of the Gulf of Mexico states, and the
far north both east and west.

Some people don't like living in flat lands - they prefer
mountains with trees and scenery. We want a place that has rivers,
lakes, and less traffic. So, after ruling out those places (there
are still some rural places in California, Oregon, and Washington,
but they're not ideal for one reason or another).

Years ago Stephen Gaskin and his family opted to move from San
Francisco to Tennessee to be on The Farm. So, I started to
consider places like Nashville and Memphis where Rita could still
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where People Live

[Richard Williams]

Plano, Texas

[image: Inline image 1]

Rita's niece and her husband, a bean counter, both work and live in Plano -
it's right next to Dallas. According to what I've read, Plano, Texas is one
of the best managed cities in the U.S. More than half of Plano’s adult
population have at least a bachelor’s degree last year, one of the best
rates in the nation. Plano's close proximity to Dallas, combined with
efficient public transportation, offers residents easy access to jobs in
the larger city. More than 12% of Plano workers were employed in the
finance industry last year Go figure.

It's all about management. When I worked at the community college I took
several courses in Business Management - Small Business Management,
Business Communications, Business Math, Records Management and Accounting.
I was awarded a Level One Certification in Business Administrative Systems.
So, it's interesting to read about city management. In a recent survey, the
best-run city is Irvine, California and the worst run city is San
Bernardino, California. Go figure.

Read more:

'The Best and Worst Run Cities in America'
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/best-worst-run-cities-america-193707188.html


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Richard Williams wrote:

> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> Someday soon we are going to be selling everything and packing up what's
> left to move to a place that's right for us. There are good reasons to move
> and good reason to stay where we are. Each area has its pros and cons.
> Every place you live is a compromise and there is no perfect place
>
> For example some place have good weather all year like Laguna Beach,
> California, and some places have weather that sucks, like Cut Bank,
> Montana. For others, weather is perhaps not as big of a deal.
>
> Most people like what they already know and the older people get the more
> they have resistance to change. For me, moving isn't a big deal, since I
> spent eighteen years a military brat, living in over ten U.S. states,
> England and Japan.
>
> After college I lived in California for thirteen years, both north and
> south, and then moved to Austin, Texas for twelve years. Recently Rita and
> I visited her hometown, Detroit, and visited her sister for a few weeks.
>
> And, I've driven through most of the U.S. at one time or another. I love
> northern California and the Escondido area around San Diego - lots of
> business opportunities;good schools; avocados.. These are the many reasons
> people like to live near the ocean or the mountains.
>
> But, there are some negatives also, like in California where the state is
> struggling, which means the cities are now struggling. The bureaucracy is
> increasing out there. Some people are getting tired of dealing high
> property taxes - Prop 13 sets property tax on homes at 1% - and sales taxes
> are going up all the time. If you buy a $1M home you'll pay $10,000 just in
> taxes to live in San Diego County!
>
> Is there some place that would be an almost ideal place to live?
>
> If you take out a map of the U.S. you can easily cross off several
> locations. The first thing we did was cut out places where homes are very
> expensive, like Seattle, Washington or San Francisco, California or
> Portland, Oregon. We want someplace that is cheap where you can park a lot
> of cars and play loud music.
>
> So, you can cross off places where it's too hot or too dry or too wet -
> bad weather. And, we want to avoid tornadoes, hurricanes, flooding,
> earthquakes, blizzards and deserts. That rules out most of the middle of
> the country, California, Texas, Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, Montana and most
> of the Gulf of Mexico states, and the far north both east and west.
>
> Some people don't like living in flat lands - they prefer mountains with
> trees and scenery. We want a place that has rivers, lakes, and less
> traffic. So, after ruling out those places (there are still some rural
> places in California, Oregon, and Washington, but they're not ideal for one
> reason or another).
>
> Years ago Stephen Gaskin and his family opted to move from San Francisco
> to Tennessee to be on The Farm. So, I started to consider places like
> Nashville and Memphis where Rita could still continue playing in her band
> and I could park my cars and work out of my home office on the internet.
>
> In a recent survey of great places to retire Chattanooga was at the top of
> the list. Go figure.
>
> I've been reading about how Chattanooga is experiencing a resurgence of
> vitality in the city: very low rates for electricity due to good management
> by the Tennessee Valley Authority. And very fast network connections too.
> You can buy a nice house in Chattanooga for $150,000 or rent a house for
> around $1000 a month; car registration is $28; $2 a year to register your
> boat; you can establish a corporation for $150. So, living costs would be a
> lot cheaper in Chattanooga than some other places.
>
> What is there to do there?
>
> We don't want to be o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Security, Cigars and FUD

[Bhairitu]

The expensive part of that would be the upkeep on the dog.

As the economy grows worse crime will rise and the chances someone will 
break into your home will increase.   I don't like guns so don't have 
one though I'm not opposed to people owning them.  But I might consider 
a stun gun since I can just pick up one of those at Fry's.  I also keep 
a $4 book light that has a red laser on it (more reliable than the $1 
junk laser pointers you find at dollar stores). I figure if you shined 
that red laser down the hallway they'd split fast.


Now they have thieves breaking into your car by tripping your keyless 
lock.  They say they don't know how the devices that do this work.  
Duh.  I watched the one surveillance video of this kid who walks past 
cars with a device in his hand.  As he walks past one car he stops and 
backs up and opens it door.  That tells me his device simply is running 
through a series of codes hoping that one will match the code on one of 
the cars.  When it does that car will beep telling them they have hit 
the jackpot.  These kind of these deserve public lynching.  That'll stop 
'em.


Since my Forester is 15 years old the keyless fobs that came with it 
were falling apart.  I was able to order a "universal" one online for 
$15 (including shipping).  Works great.  Oh and you can't use it to open 
other cars.


We the people need to declare war on the snoopy sector.  Find anyone 
snooping in your smartphone smash their nose in.


On 01/04/2014 10:51 AM, Richard Williams wrote:
Our next door neighbor installed several expensive security cameras 
all around his house, with some motion detecting lighting. He's also 
got a pit bull in the yard and a fence all around, even in the front 
of his house. Go figure.


So, I got some of these cheap fake sec-cams and put them up all around 
our house at night when everyone in the neighborhood was asleep. Sweet!


Inline image 1

Imitation Security Camera:
http://youtu.be/Ml0V5IF2TaE

  * Authentic appearance
  * Motion sensitive up to nine foot range
  * Realistic oscillating movement
  * Flashing red LED
  * Battery-operated



On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Richard J. Williams 
mailto:pundits...@gmail.com>> wrote:


So, you just had to hook your PC up to the internet and broadcast
your IP address. Go figure.

It used to be that the good guy hackers on the internet were
supplying us with programs and OS for your computer so you could
compile your data; then the other good guy hackers wrote programs
to protect your data; and then the bad guy hackers attempted to
plant trojans and worms on your computer in order to steal your
data; and now the NSA is hacking your internet surfing handles to
social networks like Facebook and Yahoo to track your data? Go figure.

'Security, Cigars and FUD'
http://securitycigarsfud.wordpress.com/2013/09/23/a-new-adventure/

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in the room

[authfriend]

"They" who?
 
 << Football is probably the closest thing they could come to gladiators 
killing each other to satisfy the masses with bread and circuses.  it's a 
national distraction. >>

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in the room

[Bhairitu]

Football is probably the closest thing they could come to gladiators 
killing each other to satisfy the masses with bread and circuses.  it's 
a national distraction.


On 01/04/2014 10:55 AM, Share Long wrote:
Yes, Mike I read about that game between 49ers and Green Bay. If I 
didn't already think football players are crazy, this would convince 
me! My oldest nephew played for Ariz St and another played for UConn, 
Storrs. I don't think it's a health producing sport!


I figured out that the FFL guys pretty much don't do smiley faces but 
I thought maybe you were serious about 54 being chilly since you live 
in Texas.




On Saturday, January 4, 2014 9:27 AM, Mike Dixon 
 wrote:
Share... I'm glad you can't believe it!  I say things facetiously all 
the time. Maybe I should put a smiley face afterwords:) Those poor 
49ers are going to be playing football in Greenbay at -8 with a 
windchill around -30 argh... If it were the Texans, they'd just 
forfeit the game and not go.*:) happy


*From:* Share Long 
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2014 5:43 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in 
the room
Mike, I can't believe you were saying brr to 54F! I guess it 
really is all relative. They're predicting a HIGH of -4 in FF on Monday!


On Friday, January 3, 2014 3:57 PM, Bhairitu  
wrote:
It was only 130 degrees in Australia yesterday. On 01/03/2014 11:06 
AM, Mike Dixon wrote:

About 54 degrees here in Tombal Tx.br.

*From:* mailto:anartax...@yahoo.com mailto:anartax...@yahoo.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2014 10:57 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in 
the room
The temperature here (Brewster, NY) is 10F (-8C) with a wind chill of 
-8F (-22C). Tomorrow morning it is expected to be -8F (-22C) without 
wind chill factored in, but the wind is expected to be almost nil by 
then.
This is not so bad. Currently at the summit of Mt. Everest, it is 
-18F (-28C) with a wind chill of -51F (-46C) and winds of 45mph 
(75kph). It's summertime in Antarctica, a balmy -9F (-23C) at the 
South Pole.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Security, Cigars and FUD

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams  wrote:
>
> Our next door neighbor installed several expensive security cameras
all
> around his house, with some motion detecting lighting. He's also got a
pit
> bull in the yard and a fence all around, even in the front of his
house. Go
> figure.

Hard not to take that personally.  :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in the room

[Share Long]

Yes, Mike I read about that game between 49ers and Green Bay. If I didn't 
already think football players are crazy, this would convince me! My oldest 
nephew played for Ariz St and another played for UConn, Storrs. I don't think 
it's a health producing sport!

I figured out that the FFL guys pretty much don't do smiley faces but I thought 
maybe you were serious about 54 being chilly since you live in Texas.





On Saturday, January 4, 2014 9:27 AM, Mike Dixon  wrote:
 
  
Share... I'm glad you can't believe it!  I say things facetiously all the time. 
Maybe I should put a smiley face afterwords:) Those poor 49ers are going to be 
playing football in Greenbay at -8 with a windchill around -30 argh... If it 
were the Texans, they'd just forfeit the game and not go.


From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in the room

  
Mike, I can't believe you were saying brr to 54F! I guess it really is 
all relative. They're predicting a HIGH of -4 in FF on Monday! 

On Friday, January 3, 2014 3:57 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:

  
It was only 130 degrees in Australia yesterday. On 01/03/2014 11:06 AM, Mike 
Dixon wrote:
  
>About 54 degrees here in Tombal Tx. br.
>
>
>
>From: mailto:anartax...@yahoo.com mailto:anartax...@yahoo.com
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 10:57 AM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in the room
>
>  
>The temperature here (Brewster, NY) is 10F (-8C) with a wind chill of -8F 
>(-22C). Tomorrow morning it is expected to be -8F (-22C) without wind chill 
>factored in, but the wind is expected to be almost nil by then. 
>This is not so bad. Currently at the summit of Mt. Everest, it is -18F (-28C) 
>with a wind chill of -51F (-46C) and winds of 45mph (75kph). It's summertime 
>in Antarctica, a balmy -9F (-23C) at the South Pole.
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Security, Cigars and FUD

[Richard Williams]

Our next door neighbor installed several expensive security cameras all
around his house, with some motion detecting lighting. He's also got a pit
bull in the yard and a fence all around, even in the front of his house. Go
figure.

So, I got some of these cheap fake sec-cams and put them up all around our
house at night when everyone in the neighborhood was asleep. Sweet!

[image: Inline image 1]

Imitation Security Camera:
http://youtu.be/Ml0V5IF2TaE


   - Authentic appearance
   - Motion sensitive up to nine foot range
   - Realistic oscillating movement
   - Flashing red LED
   - Battery-operated



On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Richard J. Williams
wrote:

> So, you just had to hook your PC up to the internet and broadcast your IP
> address. Go figure.
>
> It used to be that the good guy hackers on the internet were supplying us
> with programs and OS for your computer so you could compile your data; then
> the other good guy hackers wrote programs to protect your data; and then
> the bad guy hackers attempted to plant trojans and worms on your computer
> in order to steal your data; and now the NSA is hacking your internet
> surfing handles to social networks like Facebook and Yahoo to track your
> data? Go figure.
>
> 'Security, Cigars and FUD'
> http://securitycigarsfud.wordpress.com/2013/09/23/a-new-adventure/
>

[FairfieldLife] RE: The story behind the photograph of the Risen Christ

[cardemaister]

FWIW, nice gaayatrii mantra by SSB:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UNfKe32Dns 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UNfKe32Dns

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The game is afoot again.As a director of PBS TV station Ch17& 23 Buffalo W.N York & Toronto

[wleed3]

Our Sherlock Holmes programing is immensely popular. We I note enjoy a wide 
Canadian audience for there shows as well & program them always at least 2  
time in various time slots most are rebroadcast 4 time showing how very popular 
they are in our viewing area. They are also transmitted via Rogers cable TV, 
for us as well in Ontario. These shows are our second most popular shows & most 
popular of the Brittcoms we broadcast. 
Sent in respect Bill Leed in Amherst NY a burb of Buffalo NY


ia

In a message dated 01/04/14 13:01:17 Eastern Standard Time, 
authfri...@yahoo.com writes:



"Victorian" and "Edwardian" are both pretty much standard here. Also 
"Georgian," "Regency," and "Stuart" periods, and before that, of 
course,Elizabethan" and "Tudor."

On a side note: we Brits call the Sherlock period Edwardian. When we use labels 
like "Victorian" or "Edwardian" do Yanks (or Europeans for that matter) refer 
to it by some other designation? 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The game is afoot again

[authfriend]

"Victorian" and "Edwardian" are both pretty much standard here. Also 
"Georgian," "Regency," and "Stuart" periods, and before that, of course, 
"Elizabethan" and "Tudor."
 On a side note: we Brits call the Sherlock period Edwardian. When we use 
labels like "Victorian" or "Edwardian" do Yanks (or Europeans for that matter) 
refer to it by some other designation? 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The game is afoot again

[Bhairitu]

Maybe it would be more popular in the US if Sherlock investigated a clan 
of bayoubillies. :-D


And I have never seen "Elementary".  I have enough problem with what the 
idiots running Hollywood do to TV.


On 01/03/2014 07:21 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:


The BBC "Sherlock" is a worldwide hit but I read that the USA is *not* 
so enamoured and viewing figures there are quite low.



I love the original Holmes tales (though Poe's Dupin is the original 
and the best) so I enjoy this modern updating but the series does 
strike me as a bit smug and self-congratulatory. Too much style over 
substance perhaps? Still, there are classy moments and I never miss an 
episode.



IMHO Jeremy Brett's Holmes is the best-ever representation. 
Astonishing performance. Truly brilliant. Popular entertainment as 
high art!



My fave Holmes story was "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches". A key 
plot element is the auburn hair of the central character. A young 
woman applying for the job of a governess is offered excellent wages 
thanks to her red hair. Is the employer a sexual fetishist? Is 
something sleazy going on? Because Holmes is asexual the "Copper 
Beeches" plot adds an element of sexual frisson which is all the more 
effective thanks to the background of period respectability and decorum.



On a side note: we Brits call the Sherlock period Edwardian. When we 
use labels like "Victorian" or "Edwardian" do Yanks (or Europeans for 
that matter) refer to it by some other designation?  After all, Ed and 
Vicky were not *your* sovereigns. (Though you are always welcome to 
rejoin the club and become loyal subjects of Liz II.)



I've never seen US series "Elementary" - would you recommend that?

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in the room

[Bhairitu]

What you are really talking about is authoritarian totalitarian states.  
There's quite a difference to between Cuba and North Korea.  People also 
make a similar mistake with the term fascist when they really mean 
authoritarian. Fascism is a corporate run state.


Because we have now shrunk the world to a nanosecond with the Internet 
the is tremendous pressure to change the way countries are won.  It will 
be an interesting time.


On 01/04/2014 07:09 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
Not sure if it is still communist but the Communist Party used to win 
the elections there years ago and control it's state and local 
governments. people that have lived it. Just look at the nations that have 
abandoned it. I'm certain China would if the party didn't control the 
army and police forces. But we do have wonderful nations with a good 
communist party ... like Cuba and North Korea!


*From:* Bhairitu 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2014 12:15 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in 
the room
Ya been there?  Seemed to be very prosperous small businesses there 
and little or no begging (they give those folks jobs selling things).  
Cochin is a very modern city.  Not sure is the state government 
"communist" or "socialist" since the former is a denigrating term 
fascists use to scare people.On 01/03/2014 11:09 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:

No, I'm sure you would love Kerala. Nice communist state government.

*From:* Bhairitu mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2014 11:05 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla 
in the room
Global warming is so retro just as "climate change."  The new term 
"climate disruption." Gotta stay up to date. A friend and his wife 
went on their honeymoon in June a couple years ago.  They went to New 
Zealand and came back with colds.  Duh! Hey, I'd be living in the 
tropics if I had my choice.  But then those regions tend to have 
really corrupt or unstable governments. Southern India like Kerala 
might not be bad (87 degrees year round) but they drive on the wrong 
side of the road. :-D On 01/03/2014 10:41 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
It's not *climate disruption* dude, it's global warming! 
B. The ship that got stuck in ice was researching global 
warming, media didn't say much about that. Isn't it summer in the 
Southern Hemisphere?


*From:* Bhairitu mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2014 10:25 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla 
in the room
Thanks. I find it "interesting" to find out what people are doing 
with climate disruption. Keep warm.  Us old sods don't do well with 
home temperatures under 68 degrees.  I have taken to using my heater 
tower as electricity is cheaper than gas and besides I'm only in one 
room at a time. On 01/03/2014 10:04 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
Just after midnight, it was -8 degrees where my sister lives in 
Vermont. It's -3 there now, the high for the day. Predicted to go 
down to -15 tonight. Around 8 inches of snow, but that's piddling 
for Vermont.


Ten inches of snow where I am on the Jersey shore (the snowfall has 
stopped), temp 18 degrees and sunny, going down to zero tonight, 
warming up to the high 20s-low 30s tomorrow, 40s on Sunday and 
Monday, then down again to the 10s and low teens on Tuesday, 
warming again to 40s (with rain) Wednesday through the weekend. The 
ups and downs keep you on your toes.


Anything else you want to know? Did you find that fascinating?

(We weren't really talking much about whether Jesus was "real"; 
that's a complicated topic. We were discussing what the Bible says 
about his resurrection, which is pretty simple if you can read. 
Barry made the same mistake.)



<< For the moment at least that gorilla should be the winter 
weather the US is having. I haven't seen much mention of it here. 
Nah, let's waste our time talking about whether Jayzuz was real or 
not. So how are folks doing with "climate disruption?" Even here in 
the SF Bay Area we've had a long month or more of 30 degree 
temperatures in the morning then sometimes reaching the 70s in the 
afternoon. Usually such weather is delegated for a couple weeks in 
late January. We also have had very dry weather though it wouldn't 
surprise me to see rain from mid January through March. I love when 
it rains on the water Nazis parade. >>

[FairfieldLife] 2014 - Joni Paltry

[srijau]

thanks to Joni Paltry , published Dec 7th 2013
coldest winter and worst winds as Saturn and Rahu in Libra
very bad when Jupiter in Ardra to late April, tragedy
mars will be a trigger for war when it gets near to Rahu in early March
mars retrograding in virgo in march will bring terrible health problems

relief when Rahu goes into Virgo 
big improvement when Jupiter goes in Cancer

"crescendo of massive change but for the best in the end

[FairfieldLife] Re: A good sign

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> Re : Think about "Alien."
>
>  Yes, I'm a big fan of all the films in that series and Sigourney
Weaver really made the Ripley role her own. But you've missed my point -
because I didn't explain myself very well. The Alien films were scripted
*from the get-go* to highlight the central female lead.

Not true. From the IMDB:
"All of the names of the main characters were changed by Walter Hill
  and David Giler
  during the revision of the
original script by Dan O'Bannon  
and Ronald Shusett  .  The script
by O'Bannon and Shusett also had a clause indicating that  all of the
characters are "unisex", meaning they could be cast with male  or female
actors. However, Shusett and O'Bannon never thought of  casting Ripley
as a female character."

> 20,000 Leagues was written and then first filmed as an adventure yarn
in an all-male world and worked just fine if you like that kind of
thing. Adding a woman alters the chemistry of the set-up; it doesn't
have to be as crude as you suggest but why meddle with the original
classic story?

Because the producers were cretins who represent the very thing the
Bechdel Test was invented to protest. They were asshole guys who wanted
to add some eye candy to their movie to hopefully up the box office.

>  Re my query: Aha! I see now. The Bechdel Test is for detecting gender
bias. I thought you were just taking a pot shot at films that had
all-male casts.

*Of course* there are cases to be made for all-male casts. And
all-female casts. The Bechdel Test was proposed to point out that the
*men* who run Hollywood have a tendency to throw a few token, often
unnamed women into the cast, just *for* their eye candy factor. What
they do with casting and writing is often shameful, and the idea was to
raise awareness of it.

>  Yes, bias is an issue. (Race bias is probably more prevalent, no?) As
Hollywood producers decide what films get made on the basis of their
expected profit, I assume they think movies that pass the Bechdel Test
will have less mass appeal. Is it the audience that is prejudiced rather
than the film makers?

It is both, but the change has to come from the side of the equation
that *creates* the "role models" onscreen. It's never going to come from
the side of the audience.

[FairfieldLife] RE: The game is afoot again

[s3raphita]

I was amused to see Derren Brown make a cameo appearance in this new Sherlock 
opener.
 

 Have you noticed he's now going bald? He always was but he wore a hairpiece in 
his early TV series. When I saw his live show I found it cringe-worthy when, 
before he came on stage, he announced his presence on the PA and nervously 
warned everyone about his lack of hair and not to expect him to look like his 
TV persona. 
 A brief glimpse of his insecurity below the master hypnotist role he adopts.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Sanskrit question

[srijau]

thank-you

[FairfieldLife] RE: A good sign

[s3raphita]

Re : Think about "Alien."

 

 Yes, I'm a big fan of all the films in that series and Sigourney Weaver really 
made the Ripley role her own. But you've missed my point - because I didn't 
explain myself very well. The Alien films were scripted *from the get-go* to 
highlight the central female lead. 20,000 Leagues was written and then first 
filmed as an adventure yarn in an all-male world and worked just fine if you 
like that kind of thing. Adding a woman alters the chemistry of the set-up; it 
doesn't have to be as crude as you suggest but why meddle with the original 
classic story?
 

 Re my query: Aha! I see now. The Bechdel Test is for detecting gender bias. I 
thought you were just taking a pot shot at films that had all-male casts. 
 Yes, bias is an issue. (Race bias is probably more prevalent, no?) As 
Hollywood producers decide what films get made on the basis of their expected 
profit, I assume they think movies that pass the Bechdel Test will have less 
mass appeal. Is it the audience that is prejudiced rather than the film makers?

Re: [FairfieldLife] The story behind the photograph of the Risen Christ

[Mike Dixon]

That's funny.. He doesn't look Jewish! I really have my doubts about the 
*Shroud image*. It doesn't look Semitic. Looks more European, even English.


From: nablusoss1008 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2014 2:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The story behind the photograph of the Risen Christ

  
http://www.oocities.org/saibaba_risenchrist/eng.htm 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holding back

[authfriend]

I can't recall ever having claimed to know "the truth" about a matter of 
belief.  This is just Barry making shit up, a problem we've had with him ever 
since he joined FFL. And that's a fact.

 > So if Judy wants to keep upholding the truth on here, that is her choice...

 And her particular hubris. The very *idea* of her -- or anyone -- claiming to 
know "the truth" is ludicrous. It's just *more* ludicrous coming from her, 
that's all. :-)
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously

[Richard Williams]

> Just to offer a contrast, "Buck," my father was raised in a
> Quaker household, too. But he lived his entire life without
> ever saying a word about it to any of his kids. It wasn't
> that it didn't mean anything to him. Quite the contrary. It
> meant enough to him that he kept it to himself and never
> talked about what he thought or what he believed to anyone
> else. What they believed was their business, and what he
> believed was his business. Now *that* is doing Quakerism
> justice.
>
Anyone is a "quaker" if they call themselves a quaker. But, if you don't
call yourself a quaker then you're probably not a Quaker. Being a Quaker
isn't about keeping secrets from your family. There are no hidden or closet
Quakers - there is no esoteric meaning to being a Quaker.

So, it sounds like your father might have been a Mason - I don't know.
There are a lot of secrets with the Masons. One of the rules of Mason is to
never talk about being a Mason. They admit to being Masons, but they never
talk about the Masonry. They keep all the masonic secrets to themselves. Go
figure.

Local Masonry in San Antonio

[image: Inline image 1]


On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 7:36 AM, TurquoiseB  wrote:

>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
> >
> > No brag just fact.
>
>
>
>
>
> *I'm pointing out that the "fact" you're so proud of is something that
> most people worth knowing got over a long time ago -- being "deadly
> serious" about something as silly as religion. Just to offer a contrast,
> "Buck," my father was raised in a Quaker household, too. But he lived his
> entire life without ever saying a word about it to any of his kids. It
> wasn't that it didn't mean anything to him. Quite the contrary. It meant
> enough to him that he kept it to himself and never talked about what he
> thought or what he believed to anyone else. What they believed was their
> business, and what he believed was his business. Now *that* is doing
> Quakerism justice. Trying to sound more holy or more evolved or more
> *anything* because of some shit you do that you call religion? That's just
> posturing and ego-masturbation and embarrassing. Being "deadly serious"
> about it? Even more embarrassing. *
>
> > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
> > >
> > > Turqb, my people are old Quaker and I too am Quaker and by experience
> I take that very seriously and even deadly seriously, which is why I am in
> Fairfield, Iowa as an attender of the large group meditations in the Golden
> Domes of the Fairfield meditating community.
> >
> > Well, if you want to brag about something (being serious) that many
> people would perceive as a weakness or a failing, that's your business.
> >
> > "Seriousness is not a virtue." - G.K. Chesterton
> >
>
>  
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] German perfection?

[Richard Williams]

The next time we are in Germany we will plan to visit Bamberg in Bavaria!

Wall of guitars at Sam Ash in San Antonio:

[image: Inline image 1]


On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> Prolly one of the most perfect and complete sites for buying musical
> instruments and stuff:
>
> http://www.thomann.de/gb/index.html
>
>  
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in the room

[Mike Dixon]

Share... I'm glad you can't believe it!  I say things facetiously all the time. 
Maybe I should put a smiley face afterwords:) Those poor 49ers are going to be 
playing football in Greenbay at -8 with a windchill around -30 argh... If it 
were the Texans, they'd just forfeit the game and not go.


From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in the room

  
Mike, I can't believe you were saying brr to 54F! I guess it really is 
all relative. They're predicting a HIGH of -4 in FF on Monday! 

On Friday, January 3, 2014 3:57 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:

  
It was only 130 degrees in Australia yesterday.On 01/03/2014 11:06 AM, Mike 
Dixon wrote:
  
>About 54 degrees here in Tombal Tx. br.
>
>
>
>From: mailto:anartax...@yahoo.com mailto:anartax...@yahoo.com
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 10:57 AM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in the room
>
>  
>The temperature here (Brewster, NY) is 10F (-8C) with a wind chill of -8F 
>(-22C). Tomorrow morning it is expected to be -8F (-22C) without wind chill 
>factored in, but the wind is expected to be almost nil by then. 
>This is not so bad. Currently at the summit of Mt. Everest, it is -18F (-28C) 
>with a wind chill of -51F (-46C) and winds of 45mph (75kph). It's summertime 
>in Antarctica, a balmy -9F (-23C) at the South Pole.
>
>

[FairfieldLife] RE: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously

[doctordumbass]

Brilliant and insightful, Ann, *and* funny as hell! Yes, spiritual ennui and 
laziness is no one's business, except the owner's. As a homey little pillow I 
have in the den, says, "Just deal with it". :-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: A good sign

[authfriend]

Not to mention the huge slew of films that could pass the Bechdel Test by 
portraying women talking to each other about something other than a man as 
hopelessly dizzy broads, in the most sexist possible light.
 
 Re "The Bechdel Test. To pass a film must:
1. Have at least two women -- with names -- in it
 2. Who talk to each other
 3. About something besides a man":
 

 What's the point of the Bechdel Test?  Some films - war movies? prison movies? 
- may work best *without* any women. It's a man's world out there.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The story behind the photograph of the Risen Christ

[Richard Williams]

> Eyeroll time.
>
You mean, compared to your savior the Buddha? LoL!

[image: Inline image 2]


> known pedophile named Sattya Sai Baba.
>
And, you would know this how?


On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 4:32 AM, TurquoiseB  wrote:

>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
> >
> > http://www.oocities.org/saibaba_risenchrist/eng.htm
>
>
>
> *Eyeroll time. The only thing that amazes me more than people who spend
> their lives longing for some savior or messiah to "save" them are the ones
> gullible enough to fall for a hand-colorized photo palmed off on them
> (literally) by a bad parlor magician and known pedophile named Sattya Sai
> Baba. I'm amazed that Nabby hasn't trotted out this one yet:*
>
>
>
>
> *How he did it:*
>
>
>
> *Here's one that Robin -- another idiot in search of a savior -- would
> have liked because of its (dare I say it) irony:*
>
>
>
> *For the chocolate lovers, don't forget the Kit Kat Jesus:*
>
>
>
> *:-)*
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] RE: A good sign

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Think about "Alien." Or even its sequel "Aliens." There was not a moment when 
anyone in the creative crew (writers, directors, actors) thought, "Wow...who is 
going to get to fuck Ripley?" As a result, no one in any of the audiences ever 
thought it, either. Ripley was one of the strongest female characters ever put 
on a movie screen, and both men and women reacted to her *as* strong, not as a 
"distraction" or something merely added to a primarily male cast as a fuck 
puppet. 

There have been tons of strong female characters in tons of movies. It is a bit 
of a cliche to claim Ripley was one of the strongest. And how do you know 
"There was not a moment when anyone in the creative crew (wirters, directors, 
actors) thought, "Wow...who is going to get to fuck Ripley?" You were not on 
the creative crew, not even the the guy emptying the trash bins on the set at 
the end of the day so how do you know this?
 

 Not to mention how he knows what was going on (or not going on) in the minds 
of every person, male and female, who ever saw the movie.
 

 And given Seraphita's posting history here I believe you took her comment way 
out of context and misread her tone. If you had been paying attention to her 
posts all this time you would realize she is probably one of the least sexist 
people posting here. Now you, on the other hand...

 

 Hilarious to see Barry chastising a woman for being sexist. As I just said in 
a previous post, it's sometimes tough to figure out where he stands.
 

 Barry likes to "stand", to plant his feet firmly on the beliefs, the 
sensitivities, the understandings and more delicate aspects of other's lives. 
He just loves to stomp on anything that suggests a way of thinking or existing 
that doesn't correspond exactly to what he claims he believes. Of course, he 
claims to believe nothing, which in and of itself is hilarious.
 

 

[FairfieldLife] RE: A good sign

[authfriend]

Think about "Alien." Or even its sequel "Aliens." There was not a moment when 
anyone in the creative crew (writers, directors, actors) thought, "Wow...who is 
going to get to fuck Ripley?" As a result, no one in any of the audiences ever 
thought it, either. Ripley was one of the strongest female characters ever put 
on a movie screen, and both men and women reacted to her *as* strong, not as a 
"distraction" or something merely added to a primarily male cast as a fuck 
puppet. 

There have been tons of strong female characters in tons of movies. It is a bit 
of a cliche to claim Ripley was one of the strongest. And how do you know 
"There was not a moment when anyone in the creative crew (wirters, directors, 
actors) thought, "Wow...who is going to get to fuck Ripley?" You were not on 
the creative crew, not even the the guy emptying the trash bins on the set at 
the end of the day so how do you know this?
 

 Not to mention how he knows what was going on (or not going on) in the minds 
of every person, male and female, who ever saw the movie.
 

 And given Seraphita's posting history here I believe you took her comment way 
out of context and misread her tone. If you had been paying attention to her 
posts all this time you would realize she is probably one of the least sexist 
people posting here. Now you, on the other hand...

 

 Hilarious to see Barry chastising a woman for being sexist. As I just said in 
a previous post, it's sometimes tough to figure out where he stands.
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in the room

[Mike Dixon]

Not sure if it is still communist but the Communist Party used to win the 
elections there years ago and control it's state and local governments. 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in the room

  
Ya been there?  Seemed to be very prosperous small businesses there and little 
or no begging (they give those folks jobs selling things).  Cochin is a very 
modern city.  Not sure is the state government "communist" or "socialist" since 
the former is a denigrating term fascists use to scare people.On 01/03/2014 
11:09 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
  
>No, I'm sure you would love Kerala. Nice communist state government.
>
>
>
>From: Bhairitu mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 11:05 AM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in the room
>
>  
>Global warming is so retro just as "climate change."  The new term "climate 
>disruption."  Gotta stay up to date. A friend and his wife went on their 
>honeymoon in June a couple years ago.  They went to New Zealand and came 
>back with colds.  Duh! Hey, I'd be living in the tropics if I had my choice.  
>But then those regions tend to have really corrupt or unstable governments.  
>Southern India like Kerala might not be bad (87 degrees year round) but they 
>drive on the wrong side of the road. :-D On 01/03/2014 10:41 AM, Mike Dixon 
>wrote:
>  
>>It's not *climate disruption* dude, it's global warming! B. The 
>>ship that got stuck in ice was researching global warming, media didn't say 
>>much about that. Isn't it summer in the Southern Hemisphere?
>>
>>
>>
>>From: Bhairitu mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net
>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>>Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 10:25 AM
>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in the room
>>
>>  
>>Thanks. I find it "interesting" to find out what people are doing with 
>>climate disruption.  Keep warm.  Us old sods don't do well with home 
>>temperatures under 68 degrees.  I have taken to using my heater tower as 
>>electricity is cheaper than gas and besides I'm only in one room at a time. 
>>On 01/03/2014 10:04 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>  
>>>Just after midnight, it was -8 degrees where my sister lives in Vermont. 
>>>It's -3 there now, the high for the day. Predicted to go down to -15 
>>>tonight. Around 8 inches of snow, but that's piddling for Vermont.
>>>
>>>
>>>Ten inches of snow where I am on the Jersey shore (the snowfall has 
>>>stopped), temp 18 degrees and sunny, going down to zero tonight, warming up 
>>>to the high 20s-low 30s tomorrow, 40s on Sunday and Monday, then down again 
>>>to the 10s and low teens on Tuesday, warming again to 40s (with rain) 
>>>Wednesday through the weekend. The ups and downs keep you on your toes.
>>>
>>>
>>>Anything else you want to know? Did you find that fascinating?
>>>
>>>
>>>(We weren't really talking much about whether Jesus was "real"; that's a 
>>>complicated topic. We were discussing what the Bible says about his 
>>>resurrection, which is pretty simple if you can read. Barry made the same 
>>>mistake.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>><< For the moment at least that gorilla should be the winter weather the US 
>>>is having. I haven't seen much mention of it here. Nah, let's waste our time 
>>>talking about whether Jayzuz was real or not. So how are folks doing with 
>>>"climate disruption?" Even here in the SF Bay Area we've had a long month or 
>>>more of 30 degree temperatures in the morning then sometimes reaching the 
>>>70s in the afternoon. Usually such weather is delegated for a couple weeks 
>>>in late January. We also have had very dry weather though it wouldn't 
>>>surprise me to see rain from mid January through March. I love when it rains 
>>>on the water Nazis parade. >>

[FairfieldLife] RE: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously

[awoelflebater]

Corrections below:
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
 >
> No brag just fact. 

 I'm pointing out that the "fact" you're so proud of is something that most 
people worth knowing got over a long time ago -- being "deadly serious" about 
something as silly as religion. 

Just to offer a contrast, "Buck," my father was raised in a Quaker household, 
too. But he lived his entire life without ever saying a word about it to any of 
his kids. It wasn't that it didn't mean anything to him. Quite the contrary. It 
meant enough to him that he kept it to himself and never talked about what he 
thought or what he believed to anyone else. What they believed was their 
business, and what he believed was his business. Now *that* is doing Quakerism 
justice. 

Trying to sound more holy or more evolved or more *anything* because of some 
shit you do that you call religion? That's just posturing and ego-masturbation 
and embarrassing. Being "deadly serious" about it? Even more embarrassing. 
 

 Just as you think what Buck does, feels and says is embarrassing so you need 
to take a look at how seriously you feel the need to put down those who 
actually believe in some greater force in their lives. Just because you gave up 
on any redeeming reason for why we all bother to get out of bed in the morning 
doesn't mean you need to poo poo others who have a larger vision than you do. 
You just became disillusioned and bitter at some point in your seeking - you 
came across too many charlatans or those you came to lose faith in, for faith 
you did once possess. But now at 70 years old you've come to the realization it 
all means squat and you will die and stay dead - forever. Fine, but before you 
go, why not set yourself out a little test, you like tests, and see if you can 
stop feeling so agitated every time you come across someone less jaded than 
yourself.

 > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: 
> > 
> > Turqb, my people are old Quaker and I too am Quaker and by experience I 
> > take that very seriously and even deadly seriously, which is why I am in 
> > Fairfield, Iowa as an attender of the large group meditations in the Golden 
> > Domes of the Fairfield meditating community. 
> 
> Well, if you want to brag about something (being serious) that many people 
> would perceive as a weakness or a failing, that's your business. 
> 
> "Seriousness is not a virtue." - G.K. Chesterton 
> 

 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously

[authfriend]

Gee, sometimes it's really tough to figure out where Barry stands.
 

 For example, yesterday:
 

 Chatting is what equals do. "Truth telling" is what people who claim to be 
UNEQUAL, and SUPERIOR, and the "knowers" of "truth" do to the people they look 
down on.

 
Today:
 

 I'm pointing out that the "fact" you're so proud of is something that most 
people worth knowing got over a long time ago -- being "deadly serious" about 
something as silly as religion. 

 
 Hardly seems like Barry considers people who take their religion seriously his 
equals, does it? Sounds as though he looks down on them.
 

 Even sounds as though he thinks of himself as a "truth teller."
 

[FairfieldLife] RE: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
 >
> No brag just fact. 

 I'm pointing out that the "fact" you're so proud of is something that most 
people worth knowing got over a long time ago -- being "deadly serious" about 
something as silly as religion. 

Just to offer a contrast, "Buck," my father was raised in a Quaker household, 
too. But he lived his entire life without ever saying a word about it to any of 
his kids. It wasn't that it didn't mean anything to him. Quite the contrary. It 
meant enough to him that he kept it to himself and never talked about what he 
thought or what he believed to anyone else. What they believed was their 
business, and what he believed was his business. Now *that* is doing Quakerism 
justice. 

Trying to sound more holy or more evolved or more *anything* because of some 
shit you do that you call religion? That's just posturing and ego-masturbation 
and embarrassing. Being "deadly serious" about it? Even more embarrassing. 
 

 Just as you think what Buck does, feels and says is embarrassing so you need 
to take a look at how seriously you feel the need to put down those who 
actually believe in some greater force in their lives. Just because you gave up 
on any redeeming reason for why we all bother to get out of bed in the morning 
doesn't mean you need to poo poo others who have a larger vision than you do. 
You just became disillusioned and bitter at some point in your seeking - you 
came across too many charlatans or those you you came to lose faith in, for 
faith you did once possess. But now at 70 years old you've come to the 
realization it all means squat and you will die and stay dead - forever. Fine, 
but before you go, why not set yourself out a little test, you like tests, and 
see if you can stop feeling so agitated every time you come across someone less 
jaded than yourself.

 > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: 
> > 
> > Turqb, my people are old Quaker and I too am Quaker and by experience I 
> > take that very seriously and even deadly seriously, which is why I am in 
> > Fairfield, Iowa as an attender of the large group meditations in the Golden 
> > Domes of the Fairfield meditating community. 
> 
> Well, if you want to brag about something (being serious) that many people 
> would perceive as a weakness or a failing, that's your business. 
> 
> "Seriousness is not a virtue." - G.K. Chesterton 
> 

 
 

[FairfieldLife] RE: A good sign

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" wrote:
 >
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita wrote:
> >
> > Re "The Bechdel Test. To pass a film must:
> > 1. Have at least two women -- with names -- in it
> > 2. Who talk to each other
> > 3. About something besides a man":
> >
> > . . .
 > > The Disney "20,000 Leagues under the Sea" was an all-male,
> > claustrophobic classic - the first "steampunk" movie. The 1997 
> > TV movie version introduced a woman. Now the problem with 
> > introducing a woman is that it changes the dynamic of the 
> > set-up. A central aspect then becomes: "OK, who's going to 
> > end up bedding the girl?". That distraction then diffuses 
> > the tension of the major plot theme.
> 
> That strikes me as a rather sexist statement in itself. Are you actually
> saying that the only purpose a woman could serve on a submarine is to be
> fucked by the male crew members?

 BTW, I commented as I did because the way you phrased what you wrote above was 
rather telling. You characterized a failure of creative imagination and 
unrecognized sexism on the part of the writers and creators of the 1997 movie 
as if it were inevitable. Adding a woman to the cast of a submarine movie, you 
inferred, is almost by definition a "distraction" because she inevitably would 
become a sex object for the men on board.

Horseshit. 

Think about "Alien." Or even its sequel "Aliens." There was not a moment when 
anyone in the creative crew (writers, directors, actors) thought, "Wow...who is 
going to get to fuck Ripley?" As a result, no one in any of the audiences ever 
thought it, either. Ripley was one of the strongest female characters ever put 
on a movie screen, and both men and women reacted to her *as* strong, not as a 
"distraction" or something merely added to a primarily male cast as a fuck 
puppet. 

There have been tons of strong female characters in tons of movies. It is a bit 
of a cliche to claim Ripley was one of the strongest. And how do you know 
"There was not a moment when anyone in the creative crew (wirters, directors, 
actors) thought, "Wow...who is going to get to fuck Ripley?" You were not on 
the creative crew, not even the the guy emptying the trash bins on the set at 
the end of the day so how do you know this? And given Seraphita's posting 
history here I believe you took her comment way out of context and misread her 
tone. If you had been paying attention to her posts all this time you would 
realize she is probably one of the least sexist people posting here. Now you, 
on the other hand...


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY and Siddha Tradtions

[Richard Williams]

[image: Inline image 1]

MMY and Swami Venkatesananda Saraswati at Rishikesh

According to MMY, sidha yoga is a mechanical processes. There is no
religious prayer in the practice of TMer siddha yoga. It's not based on
faith or a particular belief. There is no "god of yoga", which enters into
the physical universe and causes change.

Religions are based on faith and surrender, not on individual freedom and
will-power. Success in yoga is not dependent on any kind of religious
practice.  Mircea Elliade wrote that yoga means freedom and immortality.
'Siddha yoga' means 'perfected, that is, enlightened, transcended into pure
consciousness, which is made manifest in the individual by 'self-knowledge'
and 'Self-Knowlege.

Enlightenment is the state pertaining to 'gnosis' - that which ends the
identity of the mind with sense phenomena - knowledge that is
"transcendentnal", or beyond sense perceptions.

The Sanskrit term 'yoga' refers to the techniques for experiencing higher
states of consciousness in meditation. The earliest mention of meditative
states are the Buddhist records of the historical Buddha. The
"enlightenment tradition" originated in South Asia. Mircea Eliade notes
that yoga and the "shramana" or renounced tradition is native to South Asia
- it isn't found in the mythology or religious systems of western culture.
Asceticism seems to be peculiar to the Buddhist, Jain, and Hindu
philosophies. Go figure.

The first historical yogin was Shakya the Muni, who formulated the
'Eightfold Path' leading to Nirvana. The term 'nirvana' is Sanskrit, and is
the central concept in Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, and Kashmere Shaivism.
Nirvana is the state of being "enlightened", free from ignorance. A state
where the mind that has come to a point of "perfect lucidity and clarity
due to the cessation of the production of volitional formations." Patanjali
says that yoga is the "cessation of the fluctuations of the mind-stuff"
(Charles Johnston translation).

"Yoga is the cessation of the mental turnings of the mind." - Yoga Sutra,
I.1.2

"Let there be soundless repetition of the [pranava] and meditation
thereon." - Yoga Sutra, I. 1.28

"Chit" is thought; "citta" is consciousness. "Citta vriti" means the
turning of thought in the mind. "Nirodha" is cessation - the turnings have
stopped, ceased, come to a halt, stilled, blown out, made peaceful,
"Nirvana" means release; thought has been totally left behind -
consciousness all by itself; there is no returning; no more. Siddhis are an
indicator of natural law - causation. Patanjali says: Yoga has to do
*isolation* (Sanskrit kaivalya) from the prakriti. Cessation, (Sanskrit
"nirodha) of the fluctuations of the mindstuff and the attainment of
freedom, based on the sheer willpower of the individual (moksha).

"Freedom is a reversal of the evolutionary course of prakriti, which is
empty of meaning for the Purusha; it is also the power of consciousness
in a state of true identity." - Yoga Sutra, 4.34

The 'Yogavasishta' is a synthesis of Upanishadic Advaita, Buddhist
Vijnanavada and the Trika philosophy of Kashmir Shivaism. Swami
Venkatesananda also wrote a lucid abbreviated translation of the
Yogavasishta.  There is also a good translation by Swami Jyotirmayananda.
The Yoga Vasishta sums up the spiritual process in terms of the Seven
Bhoomikas:

1. Subecha - Longing for the Truth
2. Vicharana - Right inquiry
3. Tanumanasa - Attenuation of mental activities
4. Sattvapati - Attainment of Sattva
5. Asamsakti - Unaffected by anything
6. Pararthabhavani - See Brahman everywhere.
7. Turiya - Perpetual Samadhi

Work cited:

'History of Religious Ideas Volume 2'
>From Gautama Buddha to the Triumph of Christianity
by Mircea Eliade
University Of Chicago Press, 1985

'Yoga: Discipline of Freedom'
by Barbara Stoler Miller
Bantam Wisdom Editions 1998
p. 5, 52.

References:

'The Concise Yoga Vasistha'
By Swami Venkatesananda and Christopher Chapple
State University of New York Press, 1984

'Yoga Vasistha'
By Swami Jyotirmayananda
Yoga Research Foundation, 1977


On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Richard J. Williams
wrote:

>  According to MMY in Beacon Light of the Himalayas' "For our practice, we
> select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us
> the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life." This
> statement was confirmed by Satyanand at a CCP I once attended in Berkely
> with Jerry Jarvis. Bhagavan Das wrote that MMY gave him the bija mantra Ram
> to use in his meditation.
>
> But, strictly speaking, the bija mantras are not the actual names of the
> Gods - they are just the nick-names of the Devatas. Apparently only very
> highly evolved individuals get to be on a first name basis with God
> Almighty!
>
> In fact, all the TM bija mantras are common tantric householder mantras.
> All the Devatas such as Rama, Ram Chandra, Devaki, Vasudeva and Krishna
> used these same mantras. The Devatas are deified heroes, that is, that are
> highly ev

[FairfieldLife] RE: German perfection?

[dhamiltony2k5]

Card, see the developing review of spiritual and earlier German Perfectionism 
in:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369169 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369169

 

   -Buck

[FairfieldLife] RE: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously

[dhamiltony2k5]

For sometime, the transcending meditation group practices of Quakers as the 
Society of Friends was a dominant spiritual practice in the settlement and 
cultivation of America and as so often has happened with Knowledge in sequence 
of time the now ancient silent transcendental Quaker practice fell crashing 
upon shoals of spiritually ignorant ideologies and the primitive Quakerism 
itself almost entirely foundered out of sight as a spiritual movement of the 
Meissner Effect [ME] of consciousness development in group meditations. The 
parallels of these two spiritual movements (TM and the old Society of Friends) 
as groups are remarkable to see and witness from inside and out.
 -Buck, an old Quaker and conservative meditator in the Dome 
 
 
 
 No brag just fact.   
 

 Turqb, my people are old Quaker and I too am Quaker and by experience I take 
that very seriously and even deadly seriously, which is why I am in Fairfield, 
Iowa as an attender of the large group meditations in the Golden Domes of the 
Fairfield meditating community. George Fox and early Quakers long ago cognized 
the spiritual value of the group affect of transcending meditations. Since the 
1650's that has been the corporate practice of Quakers.
 Seriously,
 -Buck in the Dome
 
 
 What would George Fox Say?
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhsvqbCIaAs 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhsvqbCIaAs 
 
 

 

 The Fairfield, Iowa group meditation then became the largest group to Be with 
as the group of transcending meditators like Quakers gathered in Iowa from the 
late 1970's.  Quite a number of old-style Quakers like me joined on with the 
large group meditation in Fairfield, Iowa from the beginning then as recognized 
Quaker support in direct-action in the value of our form of Friends spiritual 
practice that the TM'ers had adapted to their own ends. What the Quakers have 
known all along Maharishi then had recognized as the Meissner Effect of 
consciousness in the corporate silent practice of inner transcending meditation 
like the Quaker meeting has long provided.   
 

 A nice thing about the Quaker group practice as the Friends Meeting itself is 
that it is stripped of religious forms, of alters, brahmasthans, steeples, no 
stages, no ostentatious hats or robes such like some clergy and TM-Rajas and 
other climbers would wear above others. The nice thing about Quaker Meeting as 
a place is that it is without the veneers of formal religion otherwise. Self 
run and no paid clergy. You just 'go in' sitting with others and the field 
effect of absolute, bliss, consciousness that the meeting of Friends creates 
for yourself and others. 
 Jai George Fox,
 
 -Buck in the Dome

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> No brag just fact.

I'm pointing out that the "fact" you're so proud of is something that
most people worth knowing got over a long time ago -- being "deadly
serious" about something as silly as religion.

Just to offer a contrast, "Buck," my father was raised in a Quaker
household, too. But he lived his entire life without ever saying a word
about it to any of his kids. It wasn't that it didn't mean anything to
him. Quite the contrary. It meant enough to him that he kept it to
himself and never talked about what he thought or what he believed to
anyone else. What they believed was their business, and what he believed
was his business. Now *that* is doing Quakerism justice.

Trying to sound more holy or more evolved or more *anything* because of
some shit you do that you call religion? That's just posturing and
ego-masturbation and embarrassing. Being "deadly serious" about it? Even
more embarrassing.

> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote:
>
>  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>  >
> > Turqb, my people are old Quaker and I too am Quaker and by
experience I take that very seriously and even deadly seriously, which
is why I am in Fairfield, Iowa as an attender of the large group
meditations in the Golden Domes of the Fairfield meditating community.
>
>  Well, if you want to brag about something (being serious) that many
people would perceive as a weakness or a failing, that's your business.
>
> "Seriousness is not a virtue." - G.K. Chesterton
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Black Hats and White Hats

[Richard Williams]

Bitcoin:

"Last year, the Austin resident and former UT law student posted plans for
a 3D-printed plastic handgun online along with a video demonstrating the
weapon. He took the plans down days later, after the State Department
ordered them removed. Now, Wilson has moved into another realm growing
increasingly popular among tech-centric libertarians. He and six other
coders are working on software that would further encrypt bitcoins, an
increasingly popular quasi-anonymous online currency."

Read more:

'Cody Wilson announces bitcoin venture'
Dallas Morning News:
http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/cody-wilson-bitcoin-venture.html/

Bitcoin has proven to be a pretty great medium of exchange, it’s value has
swung wildly over the course of its history. In a recent blog post at The
Verge, Adrianne Jefferies questions whether this really is a problem. She
writes...

Read more: Bitcoins -- Why Paul Krugman is Right to Hate Them
http://business.time.com/bitcoin-paul-krugman


On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Richard Williams wrote:

> This hack has all the earmarks of a middle-man conspiracy:
>
> "On Friday, a Target spokeswoman backtracked from previous statements and
> said criminals had made off with customers’ encrypted PIN information as
> well. But Target said the company stored the keys to decrypt its PIN data
> on separate systems from the ones that were hacked."
>
> 'Target’s Nightmare Goes On: Encrypted PIN Data Stolen'
> New York Times:
> http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/targets-nightmare/
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Richard Williams wrote:
>
>> This hack has all the earmarks of an inside job:
>>
>> "Target confirmed on Monday that the company is partnering with Secret
>> Service to investigate the breach, and said its point-of-sale terminals in
>> U.S. stores were infected by malware, or malicious software. Target said it
>> was restricted in the amount of information about the investigation it
>> could share."
>>
>> 'Target Discusses Breach With State Attorneys'
>> http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Richard J. Williams <
>> pundits...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Addressing the important issues!
>>>
>>> According to what I've read, the NSA doesn't even know how many
>>> documents were collected and purloined by Edward Snowden. But, one does
>>> wonder how an organization of thousands of spies wouldn't be able to spot
>>> another spy among their own. Apparently Snowden was a genius among
>>> geniuses. That, in itself should have been a red flag. Go figure.
>>>
>>> In a book I recently read, one of the prosecutors at trial told the
>>> presiding judge that Kevin Mitnick, The Dark Side Hacker, at one time the
>>> most wanted hackers by the FBI, could hack into a phone connection at NORAD
>>> and with a series of whistles, cause a ballistic missile to be launched. Go
>>> figure.
>>>
>>> Next, they will be telling us that there's a hidden camera inside every
>>> Mr. Coffee pot. You better check every ball point pen in the house for cams
>>> and voice actuated listening devices, while you're at it. LoL!
>>>
>>> "Among the more eye-opening claims made by NSA is that it detected what
>>> CBS terms the “BIOS Plot” – an attempt by China to launch malicious code in
>>> the guise of a firmware update that would have targeted computers
>>> apparently linked to the US financial system, rendering them pieces of
>>> junk."
>>>
>>> Read more:
>>>
>>> 'NSA goes on 60 Minutes: the definitive facts behind CBS's flawed report'
>>> The Guardian:
>>>
>>> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/16/nsa-surveillance-60-minutes-cbs-facts
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2013 6:47 AM, Richard Williams wrote:
>>>
>>>  The Darkside Hacker
>>>
>>>  Kevin Mitnick, known as the Darkside Hacker, was at one time the
>>> most-wanted computer criminal in the United States. Law enforcement
>>> officials convinced a judge that he had the ability to "start a nuclear war
>>> by whistling into a pay phone." One state attorney told the judge that
>>> Mitnick could somehow dial into the NORAD modem via a payphone from prison
>>> and communicate with the modem by whistling to launch nuclear missiles.
>>>
>>>  According to Douglas, Mitnick managed to hack into some of the
>>> country's most powerful — and seemingly impenetrable agencies such as the
>>> DMV, SSA, and the FBI, and large companies, including PacBell, Motorola,
>>> Nokia, and DEC. Using "social engineering" and conning employees into
>>> giving him private information and maneuvering through layers of security.
>>> Using hacker techniques and social engineering Mitnick

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously

[dhamiltony2k5]

No brag just fact.
 -Buck
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
 >
> Turqb, my people are old Quaker and I too am Quaker and by experience I take 
> that very seriously and even deadly seriously, which is why I am in 
> Fairfield, Iowa as an attender of the large group meditations in the Golden 
> Domes of the Fairfield meditating community. 

 Well, if you want to brag about something (being serious) that many people 
would perceive as a weakness or a failing, that's your business.

"Seriousness is not a virtue." - G.K. Chesterton

O

[FairfieldLife] interacting with people and devices!

[Share Long]

http://i.imgur.com/Rj1ti6k.jpg

[FairfieldLife] German perfection?

[cardemaister]

Prolly one of the most perfect and complete sites for buying musical
instruments and stuff:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/index.html

[FairfieldLife] the delight of water

[Share Long]

http://i.imgur.com/wAyKXJ2.png

[FairfieldLife] Is bear just being friendly? Or hungry?!

[Share Long]

http://i.imgur.com/VWUWMt3.jpg

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Let's talk about the big gorilla in the room

[Share Long]

John, for some strange reason there are many Libra ascendents so lots of people 
with Guru transiting the 9th house right now. Maybe why FFL is having such 
lively discussions about religious topics (-:

Getting ready for the arctic vortex...





On Friday, January 3, 2014 9:39 PM, "jr_...@yahoo.com"  wrote:
 
  
Share,

There is a treasure trove of information in the night sky.  It's a mystery to 
me how the ancient astrologers were able to map the skies to come up with the 
zodiac signs and their meanings.

Yes, Jupiter, the great benefic is now transiting right in between Castor and 
Pollux, the twins in Gemini.  As I recall, this sign is the 9th house of your 
jyotish chart.  So, at this time, Jupiter  should be good for meditation, 
knowledge and spiritual insights for you.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Sanskrit question

[cardemaister]

 If the verb is 'sami' (sam-i: together-go), here are CDSL definitions:
 

 
 sami P. %{-eti} , to go or come together , meet at (acc.) or with (instr. or 
dat.) , encounter (as friends or enemies) RV. &c. &c. ; to come together in 
sexual union , cohabit (acc. or %{sA7rdham} , %{saha}) MBh. R. ; to come to , 
arrive at , approach , visit , seek , enter upon , begin RV. &c. &c. ; to lead 
to (acc.) RV. iii , 54 , 5 ; to consent , agree with (instr. , it is agreed 
between "' , with gen. of pers. and loc. of thing) S3Br. MBh.: Pass. %{-Iyate} 
, to be united or met or resorted to &c.: Intens. %{-Iyate} , to visit , 
frequent RV. ; to appear , be manifested BhP.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The story behind the photograph of the Risen Christ

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> http://www.oocities.org/saibaba_risenchrist/eng.htm


Eyeroll time. The only thing that amazes me more than people who spend
their lives longing for some savior or messiah to "save" them are the
ones gullible enough to fall for a hand-colorized photo palmed off on
them (literally) by a bad parlor magician and known pedophile named
Sattya Sai Baba.

I'm amazed that Nabby hasn't trotted out this one yet:



How he did it:



Here's one that Robin -- another idiot in search of a savior -- would
have liked because of its (dare I say it) irony:



For the chocolate lovers, don't forget the Kit Kat Jesus:



:-)

[FairfieldLife] The story behind the photograph of the Risen Christ

[nablusoss1008]

http://www.oocities.org/saibaba_risenchrist/eng.htm 
http://www.oocities.org/saibaba_risenchrist/eng.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: A good sign

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  s3raphita wrote:
> >
> > Re "The Bechdel Test. To pass a film must:
> > 1. Have at least two women -- with names -- in it
> >  2. Who talk to each other
> >  3. About something besides a man":
> >
> >  . . .
> >  The Disney "20,000 Leagues under the Sea" was an all-male,
> > claustrophobic classic - the first "steampunk" movie. The 1997
> > TV movie version introduced a woman. Now the problem with
> > introducing a woman is that it changes the dynamic of the
> > set-up. A central aspect then becomes: "OK, who's going to
> > end up bedding the girl?". That distraction then diffuses
> > the tension of the major plot theme.
>
> That strikes me as a rather sexist statement in itself. Are you
actually
> saying that the only purpose a woman could serve on a submarine is to
be
> fucked by the male crew members?

BTW, I commented as I did because the way you phrased what you wrote
above was rather telling. You characterized a failure of creative
imagination and unrecognized sexism on the part of the writers and
creators of the 1997 movie as if it were inevitable. Adding a woman to
the cast of a submarine movie, you inferred, is almost by definition a
"distraction" because she inevitably would become a sex object for the
men on board.

Horseshit.

Think about "Alien." Or even its sequel "Aliens." There was not a moment
when anyone in the creative crew (writers, directors, actors) thought,
"Wow...who is going to get to fuck Ripley?" As a result, no one in any
of the audiences ever thought it, either. Ripley was one of the
strongest female characters ever put on a movie screen, and both men and
women reacted to her *as* strong, not as a "distraction" or something
merely added to a primarily male cast as a fuck puppet.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> Turqb, my people are old Quaker and I too am Quaker and by experience
I take that very seriously and even deadly seriously, which is why I am
in Fairfield, Iowa as an attender of the large group meditations in the
Golden Domes of the Fairfield meditating community.

Well, if you want to brag about something (being serious) that many
people would perceive as a weakness or a failing, that's your business.

"Seriousness is not a virtue." - G.K. Chesterton

[FairfieldLife] Re: The game is afoot again

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  s3raphita wrote:
>
>  The series creator and writer Mark Gatiss also plays Mycroft. He's so
snooty and superior he's a hoot and I always enjoy his appearances.

That's cool. Somehow I'd never noticed that. He does wind up giving his
character some of the best lines. If there is anyone snootier than
Sherlock, it's Mycroft.  :-)

>  Sherlock in the original stories was always passionately on the side
of justice and defending the "little man". I think Benedict Cumberbatch
(what a ghastly name!) plays Sherlock as a little *too* cold and aloof.

Sherlock's persona in this series is not exactly true to the original,
but part of the series' schtick. As the character himself put it in the
opening episode when a policeman accused him of being a psychopath
within his hearing, "I am *not* a psychopath; I'm a high-functioning
sociopath."  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: A good sign

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> Re "The Bechdel Test. To pass a film must:
> 1. Have at least two women -- with names -- in it
>  2. Who talk to each other
>  3. About something besides a man":
>
>  What's the point of the Bechdel Test?  Some films - war movies?
prison movies? - may work best *without* any women. It's a man's world
out there.

The point is that in the past very few movies -- of any kind -- *could*
pass this test. It's a test for unrecognized sexism in film. From
Wikipedia: "Only a small proportion of films pass the Bechdel test,
according to writer Charles Stross
 
  and
film director Jason Reitman 
.   According to
Mark Harris  
of Entertainment Weekly
 , if passing the
test were mandatory, it would have jeopardized half of 2009's Academy
Award for Best Picture
 
nominees."
 

>  The Disney "20,000 Leagues under the Sea" was an all-male,
claustrophobic classic - the first "steampunk" movie. The 1997 TV movie
version introduced a woman. Now the problem with introducing a woman is
that it changes the dynamic of the set-up. A central aspect then
becomes: "OK, who's going to end up bedding the girl?". That distraction
then diffuses the tension of the major plot theme.

That strikes me as a rather sexist statement in itself. Are you actually
saying that the only purpose a woman could serve on a submarine is to be
fucked by the male crew members?