[FairfieldLife] Re: So you want to read this
Interesting, I've had occasion to complain about the Oxford street staff recently. Do write in and let head office know: http://www.clarks.co.uk/contactus http://www.clarks.co.uk/contactus http://www.clarks.co.uk/contactus http://www.clarks.co.uk/contactus View on www.clarks.co.uk http://www.clarks.co.uk/contactus Preview by Yahoo I always do if a company screws up, if you don't complain they think we approve and given the lowering of standards in shops generally it's a good idea to try and save something Supermarkets are the worst though. All their devious little tricks to push prices up like putting something on discount for a month then reducing the pack size before putting the price back up and thus netting themselves a 20% price increase. I don't miss a trick. I hope... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : I was in a Clarks shoe store on Oxford Street today trying on a couple of options for casual footwear suitable for the heatwave. I asked the assistant if I could try on a third style of shoe also and she said to me, I'll just get them. Then, pointing to the two pairs I'd already tried on, she added, So, you'll be wanting to take both of those. I had a moment of slight confusion but replied, No, I'll just be getting the one pair but haven't decided which one yet. What was odd is that a few months ago I'd been in another Clarks shoe store at the other end of Oxford Street in exactly the same situation - two styles of shoe tried and me ruminating and then me asking to try a third style - and the (different, male) assistant there had used exactly that expression: So, you'll be wanting to take both of those. [Notice they both said take those and not buy those, which latter phrase immediately brings to mind thoughts of money going from you to them and so activating an automatic resistance!] That can't be a coincidence can it? The same wording in the same chain? If you look at the expression used - So, you'll be wanting to take both of those - at a surface level it comes over as a question: So, [will you] be wanting to [buy] both of those? but surely it's actually an *embedded command*: So, [you will be wanting] to take both of those - which is how our subconscious absorbs it. The use of such sneaky methods has been popularized by the spread of NLP methodology. I felt pleased with myself for spotting this one but I wonder how many more I must be falling for every day. There is another possibility however. One day this FFL message may be used in court proceedings as clear evidence of my descent into paranoia and will see me forcibly sectioned under the Mental Health Act . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSbfqCO8XBIamp;list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMAamp;index=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSbfqCO8XBIamp;list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMAamp;index=1
Re: [FairfieldLife] opinion of oprah
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What does level headed mean? Does it mean that Salvy sports a flat top? :-D To be fair we are forgetting that Salvy enjoys a really different health care system than we have in for profit America. If he lived here he might well be on the side of us who support alternative therapies especially if he got charged $100 (or more) for a doctor seeing him for 2 minutes. You've got a shite system over there for sure. Over here it's the alternatives that are expensive, which makes it even more stupid to try random healthcare! On 08/23/2014 10:48 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I post this mainly in hopes that level headed science appreciator Sal and starry eyed quackery fan Share will give us their considered (and one would assume) entirely opposite opinions http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement Oprah Winfrey ruins 2013 Harvard commencement Last year’s Harvard Commencement keynote speech -- a trite, forgettable, and platitudinous monologue delivered by journalist Fareed Zakaria -- wafted inoffensiv View on www.examiner.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Alternative Therapy
coming in late on this, as I mentioned before, I had a patch of psoriasis just below my knee for twenty plus years. Ann sent me some colloidal silver and the first thing it did was dry that patch up. I then continued to apply it, although less often, and it has completely taken the patch away. My knee shows no sign of it, and I've stopped applying the ointment. In fact the little one or two oz. container Ann sent me is probably more than half full. And of course, my athletes foot had a little flair up, and after a couple applications, that has gone as well. During that twenty year period to treat the psoriasis, I visited doctors who prescribed ointments that virtually did no good. One the other hand, if I had a serious ailment, I would straight away go for an allopathic treatment. I have seen (or heard) of too many people with serious ailments get side tracked on useless approaches, only to die in short order. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/22/2014 12:12 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: salyavin, imo the concepts thoroughly tested and safe and objective science are additional ways in which we kid ourselves. On Friday, August 22, 2014 1:56 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/22/2014 09:17 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/22/2014 12:12 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Do yourself a favour and drop the conspiracy theories when it comes to your health. No, I use the information gleaned from taking workshops in alternative medicine. I used alternative medicine since 1972. You do know you are arguing against people who have actually taken courses in it? = Wow, courses. And how many courses have you taken? = It's not about courses it's about whether what they teach has been thoroughly tested. This is what I've been saying all day, there may be great wonders still to be discovered but until it's as well tested as possible we will not know and end up with the sort of alternative therapies we have which largely involve placebo's and the white coat effect for their efficacy, such as it is. What some folks call Quackery may also just be Folk Medicine and has a record of never harming anyone compared to many pharmaceuticals. I always love the one ad which is one minute long and 15 seconds for the actual endorsement by a sports figure and then 40 seconds of warnings and disclaimers. Only a fool would want to take that shit. And it also for an ailment that is curable by correcting the metabolic imbalance. And then there is the problem of proper doctors misdiagnosing. It happens far too often. I think Salvy's just a science fan and not a scientist.
[FairfieldLife] Re: opinion of oprah
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I post this mainly in hopes that level headed science appreciator Sal and starry eyed quackery fan Share will give us their considered (and one would assume) entirely opposite opinions This bit says it all for me: Asimov died in 1992 -- six years into Oprah’s syndicated sabotage upon sense -- having lived long enough to see American Intellectual Life degenerate to depths worse than he could have imagined... from “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge” into a cultural elevation of ignorance as not only “just as good”, but in every way superior to knowledge... A shift surely affected in part by Winfrey’s outsized influence. When TV is the main educator it's going to seek the lowest common denominator, another problem with capitalism. There's no one to check the facts and point out errors on Oprah, the audience figures rule, give the people what they want. Unlike on British TV where we have rules about what how opinion pieces are to be portrayed compared to something with supporting evidence. That just covers documentaries though, I'm sure that chat shows rely on the hopeful integrity of the presenter. We have no one like Oprah thank the lord and the BBC is quite proud of its stance on impartiality, the Tories will destroy it though in their endless quest to turn the UK into America. If someone makes money out of it, it must intrinsically be a good thing right? http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement Oprah Winfrey ruins 2013 Harvard commencement http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement Last year’s Harvard Commencement keynote speech -- a trite, forgettable, and platitudinous monologue delivered by journalist Fareed Zakaria -- wafted inoffensiv View on www.examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement; class=ygrps-yiv-273569700link-enhancr-card-url ygrps-yiv-273569700link-enhancr-element Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Sundholm, the Swedish way!
If ya wish to pronounce David Lynch's mother's maiden name(Sundholm) the Finnish-Swedish way (why wouldn't you?), this is how to do it: If your pronunciation of the vowel of soon is like this https://translate.google.com/#auto/fi/soon https://translate.google.com/#auto/fi/soon ... that's approximately how to pronounce the u in Sundholm, but somewhat shorter!
[FairfieldLife] Re: So you want to read this
My Dearest s3raphita,In my heart you lie, in perfection, between respectful and respectable. You are...The Gap. The fulfillment of respect. The desire of the respectless. The receptor of recpectivity. Reposing in your respectology, I yearn. And I learn, And in that I...always make sure that I stay on the right side of you...because you are All that I care for (and you make me a little afraid). Which brings out The Best In Me. You make me whole... Did I say too much? Your Eternal Respector, wally wallabee
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time
Dearest Share,I loved that movie! I would know that you would find it sweet, because that resonated with your own sweet qualities. I always enjoy corresponding with you. Thank you for Sharing how much the film moved you. I did me too. Please keep in touch, although we are far, Dan
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good Night Everyone
Awake now...Movement rules
Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One
Mikey,If my Comment helped you in any way, please assume that it was directed to you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Richard
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You are wasting your time and energy - I delete all of your idiotic posts unread now. Only now? I'm most impressed at your perseverance!
[FairfieldLife] 6.1 Quake
a little shake rattle and roll here is a wake up about 3:20 to an earthquake centered centered about 10 or 12 miles from here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: So you want to read this
Dear Sal,Are Clark's now the rage? I need to know, this is important. What styles are the hoest? Can I get the hot, hot, hot, hot Clarks here (in the US of A)? Do I need a 'connection' in Britain. Should I have my Clarks smuggled thru customs? Is s3raphita toying with me again and there really is NO Clarks craze? I need to know what to do. Help!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One
Now, this is funny! Michael who for months on end posted from yahoo Basic, which features HUGE amounts of white space, is criticizing Dan who's been posting in the new format for a few days! As Richard would say, you can't make this stuff up (-: On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:01 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: friedman, you apparently are not sharp enough to include the post you are replying to in your post - get up to speed will ya? From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One By George he's got it!I gotta say...the boy's sharp!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One
Dearest Share,Thank you for coming to my defense, I do appreciate it. I am, however attempting a new, improved (yet untested) tact with Mr Mike. I am trying to improve him. Make him a better man. I a word - rehabilitate him. Some may say that I am trying to 'save his soul' (I do expect that Richy suspects my motives as being Spiritual or Religiousity), but no. I act completely and unselfishly for The Good of Michael. Everyone, please join me in my Movement.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner-like Effect of Consciousness and Square Roots
LEnglish5 has put his finger on something around the science replication of what were preliminary and evidently good results. His point is looking at how to replicate given the practical and real constraints of such large replication research. This is extremely important as to the fate and course of the TM movement going forward. Maharishi drove the TM movement for decades with 'big science' of hypothesis testing based on observation. The 'big science' work now evidently is constrained and it seems the constraint is rooted a cultural problem within TM about the availability of money now from within the TM community itself. This is actually where MJ seems to have a related point about behavior. TM replication research is suffering in a constraint right now from our old ethical problems about money in TM and broad perceptions in the community of old financial dealings. Those perceptions even within TM quite evidently have been corrosive and eroding within communal TM itself. This is very much part of what makes moot now the gatherings of high enough numbers of people meditating in groups, high enough numbers of students meditating in our schools, and high enough numbers of pundits in Vedic City or in India to be able to gather significant data and test hypothesis. Money. The practical and serious obstacle to replication research that Sparaig is raising is a lack of forthcoming money coming out of the meditating community and a general lack of numbers of meditators (aside from Latin America) available in the TM movement now stemming in a malaise of historical ethical dissonance. -Buck Replication, as 'proper' Science process: LEnglish5 is entirely correct. “The point is to get 8000+ to gather in one place *every single day*. That isn't easy to do.” Anti-science skeptics could say, “..one could just as easily say that Science is another way we have of kidding ourselves!” Honest people would fairly answer: “Not really, the whole point of science is that we have a system of testing that tells us whether we are kidding ourselves, ..Same with all branches of science, it allows you to say with some certainty that what you have is knowledge rather than belief and knowing that the certainty isn't complete allows for further refinement all the time.” ..TM and Maharishi haters may try to cut it all off at the knees by asserting the research was all bad but actually the Meissner-like Effect of Consciousness research was quite good enough to get published in respected places. What remains to do is replication. Of course. -Buck Yes, a tragic failure of the recent Invincible America course is that it never achieved significant large-scale numbers to perform replication Meissner Effect of consciousness research with. ..that the overall administration of the Invincible America course allowed the numbers to fragment by sending important groups of Purusha and Mother Divine away as the numbers were approaching critical mass. That was a huge disappointment to all the progressive elements of the TM movement. The longer course of human history will very likely regret that sad flaw of dispersal and fragmentation of the TM movement that was allowed for in the administration of the numbers meditating during that time. Was a very unfortunate turn of events. I certainly hope for the best though, that angels of a better nature can achieve significant results in well controlled large-scale Meissner Effect of consciousness science research in Latin America where our gringo administration of the Invincible America course it seems were unable to allow themselves to. -U.S. Buck in the Dome LEnglish5 is entirely correct: “The point is to get 8000+ to gather in one place *every single day*. That isn't easy to do.” mjackson74 writes: whatever they use to claim world peace is a-coming when they look at group TMSP From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Square Roots What global weekly statistics would you use to measure the effect? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I would like to see a scientific experiment - get 8,000 yogic flyers together in one place for a week and see how things change or don't change. Then get another 8,000 together and let em eat garlic and guzzle beer. Then measure all the same stuff and see what happens - I'm betting the garlic and beer crowd creates more sattvic effect than the yogis From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Square Roots You are quite possibly correct, Michael, but wouldn't it be fun if you turned out to be wrong in this case? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
[FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : a little shake rattle and roll here is a wake up about 3:20 to an earthquake centered centered about 10 or 12 miles from here. How bad is that Bhairitu, cracked walls? Fissures in the pavement?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Angry
Michael, I have perfected the one for humbleness LOL! How do I know? Well you mentioned not having the one for animal communication... On Saturday, August 23, 2014 2:34 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Name all the ones you have developed and to what degree you have developed them. And how do you know I am not an already realized soul, replete with all the siddhis? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Angry Richard, I read all of your posts cuz some of them are pretty darn funny, actually make me LOL. As for poor Michael, he obviously doesn't realize that, at least from my experience, one can develop siddhis that one is even not practicing! Go figger. On Saturday, August 23, 2014 1:33 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 8/23/2014 11:28 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am ticked off that I didn't get the one from understanding the language of animals Prejudice: a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. The word is often used to refer to preconceived, usually unfavorable, judgments toward people or a person because of gender, political opinion, social class, age, disability, religion, sexuality, race/ethnicity, language, nationality or other personal characteristics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice Friendliness To develop friendliness Compassion To develop compassion Happiness To develop happiness The Strength of an Elephant To develop superhuman strength The Bronchial Tube To develop calmness The Trachea To develop control of hunger and thirst The Navel To develop knowledge of the body On Soma so that Soma Flows Everywhere To develop the flow of soma The Coronal Light To see sidhas Inner Light To develop knowledge of things hidden from view The Sun to develop knowledge of cosmic visions (lokas) The Moon To develop knowledge of arrangement of stars The Pole Star To develop knowledge of motion of stars The Three-fold Parinamas (or Changes) To develop knowledge of past and future The Heart To develop knowledge of the mind The Appearance of the Body To develop invisiibility Word...Object Implied...the Idea Thereof Overlapping To develop knowledge of language of animals and all beings The Conquering of the Vital Force Samana To develop effulgence The Distinction Between Buddhi Purusha To develop discriminative enlightenment Purusha Intuition To develop prescience PurushaDivine Hearing To develop clairaudience PurushaDivine Touch To develop divine touch PurushaDivine Sight To develop divine sight PurushaDivine Taste To develop divine taste PurushaDivine Smell To develop divine smell On Relationship of Body and AkashaLightness of Cotton Fiber To develop levitation Soma, Soma, Soma To develop soma and smooth unstressing Rest in Shavasana 15 min or longer
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner-like Effect of Consciousness and Square Roots
Always about the money! You don't need big social experiments to prove the Marshy Effect, sure it would be nice but anything that shows that action at a distance is possible will wake enough people up to get them interested. Besides the first experiments didn't convince anyone so why would they try and replicate it? More work needed. An explanation of why they use the Meissner effect analogy would be helpful too, for the measurable electromagnetic spectrum reasons I mentioned earlier. And as I always say, keep going with the research, I'd love it if the TMO changed the world and everyone started yogic bouncing and Hagelin became president and the Marshy channel took over from the BBC. What a surreal world to wake up into! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : LEnglish5 has put his finger on something around the science replication of what were preliminary and evidently good results. His point is looking at how to replicate given the practical and real constraints of such large replication research. This is extremely important as to the fate and course of the TM movement going forward. Maharishi drove the TM movement for decades with 'big science' of hypothesis testing based on observation. The 'big science' work now evidently is constrained and it seems the constraint is rooted a cultural problem within TM about the availability of money now from within the TM community itself. This is actually where MJ seems to have a related point about behavior. TM replication research is suffering in a constraint right now from our old ethical problems about money in TM and broad perceptions in the community of old financial dealings. Those perceptions even within TM quite evidently have been corrosive and eroding within communal TM itself. This is very much part of what makes moot now the gatherings of high enough numbers of people meditating in groups, high enough numbers of students meditating in our schools, and high enough numbers of pundits in Vedic City or in India to be able to gather significant data and test hypothesis. Money. The practical and serious obstacle to replication research that Sparaig is raising is a lack of forthcoming money coming out of the meditating community and a general lack of numbers of meditators (aside from Latin America) available in the TM movement now stemming in a malaise of historical ethical dissonance. -Buck Replication, as 'proper' Science process: LEnglish5 is entirely correct. “The point is to get 8000+ to gather in one place *every single day*. That isn't easy to do.” Anti-science skeptics could say, “..one could just as easily say that Science is another way we have of kidding ourselves!” Honest people would fairly answer: “Not really, the whole point of science is that we have a system of testing that tells us whether we are kidding ourselves, ..Same with all branches of science, it allows you to say with some certainty that what you have is knowledge rather than belief and knowing that the certainty isn't complete allows for further refinement all the time.” ..TM and Maharishi haters may try to cut it all off at the knees by asserting the research was all bad but actually the Meissner-like Effect of Consciousness research was quite good enough to get published in respected places. What remains to do is replication. Of course. -Buck Yes, a tragic failure of the recent Invincible America course is that it never achieved significant large-scale numbers to perform replication Meissner Effect of consciousness research with. ..that the overall administration of the Invincible America course allowed the numbers to fragment by sending important groups of Purusha and Mother Divine away as the numbers were approaching critical mass. That was a huge disappointment to all the progressive elements of the TM movement. The longer course of human history will very likely regret that sad flaw of dispersal and fragmentation of the TM movement that was allowed for in the administration of the numbers meditating during that time. Was a very unfortunate turn of events. I certainly hope for the best though, that angels of a better nature can achieve significant results in well controlled large-scale Meissner Effect of consciousness science research in Latin America where our gringo administration of the Invincible America course it seems were unable to allow themselves to. -U.S. Buck in the Dome LEnglish5 is entirely correct: “The point is to get 8000+ to gather in one place *every single day*. That isn't easy to do.” mjackson74 writes: whatever they use to claim world peace is a-coming when they look at group TMSP From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Square Roots What global weekly statistics would you use
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner-like Effect of Consciousness and Square Roots
Dear Sal,I just stopped my Yogic 'bouncing' long enough to get up and shut off the Maharishi Channel playing on flat-screens in every room. What are you saying about John NOT BEING PRESIDENT? You must be living in Some Surreal World!
[FairfieldLife] Re: opinion of oprah
I Love Oprah!O.K. USA bad. UK good. But we got Oprah, hah!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry
The shastras and hindu philosophy clearly state that Siddhis are by-products of sadhana. They are never the main goal and one must never aspire for them. The Bhagavad Gita basicaly state that there are two types of actions. Sreyas and Preyas. Sreyas is an action that is difficult to perform now, but brings rewards later. Preyas is an action that is easy to perform now, but brings suffering later. The Bhagavad Gita also states that there are basicaly two types of attachments. Raagam and Dwesham. Raagam is positive attachment (attraction). Dwesham is negative attachment (repulsion). The mind keeps occilating between them. The hindu Shastras basicaly gives two lists, a 'white list' and a 'black list'. Yamas is whitelist, list of moral obligations. These are things one must mandatorialy. Niyamas is blacklist, list of ethical restrictions. One must never under any circumstances do those deeds. The two lists combine to form Yoga. In ancient hindu texts 3000 or 4000 years ago, there were basicaly two paths, Gyana yoga and karma yoga. Bhakthi was seen as something essential for all paths and all types of yoga. All paths begin with bhakthi yoga. Bhakthi starts with prem, a love for the divine. --- noozguru@... wrote : The first one is a Vashikaran siddhi. So that means that all the TM-Sidhi folks are Vamacharis. :-D On 08/23/2014 09:28 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am ticked off that I didn't get the one from understanding the language of animals Friendliness To develop friendliness Compassion To develop compassion Happiness To develop happiness The Strength of an Elephant To develop superhuman strength The Bronchial Tube To develop calmness The Trachea To develop control of hunger and thirst The Navel To develop knowledge of the body On Soma so that Soma Flows Everywhere To develop the flow of soma The Coronal Light To see sidhas Inner Light To develop knowledge of things hidden from view The Sun to develop knowledge of cosmic visions (lokas) The Moon To develop knowledge of arrangement of stars The Pole Star To develop knowledge of motion of stars The Three-fold Parinamas (or Changes) To develop knowledge of past and future The Heart To develop knowledge of the mind The Appearance of the Body To develop invisiibility Word...Object Implied...the Idea Thereof Overlapping To develop knowledge of language of animals and all beings The Conquering of the Vital Force Samana To develop effulgence The Distinction Between Buddhi Purusha To develop discriminative enlightenment Purusha Intuition To develop prescience PurushaDivine Hearing To develop clairaudience PurushaDivine Touch To develop divine touch PurushaDivine Sight To develop divine sight PurushaDivine Taste To develop divine taste PurushaDivine Smell To develop divine smell On Relationship of Body and AkashaLightness of Cotton Fiber To develop levitation Soma, Soma, Soma To develop soma and smooth unstressing Rest in Shavasana 15 min or longer
[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry
Hey Jedi,Good job. Can you put that in a Jewish Framework for the rest of us? Thanks in advance.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Relating to the TM Raja
An evidently large problem now for our replication science is that so many still in the middle of TM are all so well known for a poor ethic in their past behavior [Ethics as a Leading Economic Indicator]. A more interesting thing recently is seeing a resurrection of old movement leaders like the Wilsons, Neil Patterson and Benjamin Feldmann at recent movement meetings; setting them up in the flesh as if the preservationist element of the movement is trying fast to secure something before younger people in process might come along and take over behind the old. Actuarial process is happening regardless. These old people who ran the movement their way are evidently getting quite old, elderly. There is quite a cadre of youthful TM teachers coming along being groomed between TM.org and the David Lynch Foundation teachers within the progressive side of TM out getting experience with teaching and organizing. They have yet to be given the microphone to speak. -Buck The [100] millionaires course? Awoelflebater, The exclusive 'hundred millionaires course'. That was all well written about here at the time. It was before your arrival on FFL. Look in the FFL archives. Back before Maharishi passed away they put Earl Kaplan out front as a well-known spokes-person soliciting for the 100 millionaires courses to raise confidence and money from his wealthy friends of the TM movement community while at the same time that others were loading Earl's money out the backdoor behind him subsequently became well known as an example. Lot of people with money withdrew around then or became much more careful about giving money at all to the movement for specific projects. That is old history that evidently affects the present, -Buck awoelflebater writes: What is the million dollar training? Here is an index to FFL that might help fill you in.. Fairfield Life https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/385530 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/385530 Fairfield Life https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/385530 Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to Maharishi University of Mana... View on groups.yahoo.com https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/385530 Preview by Yahoo [Once you get in to the length of that index you can right-click on a link to open a particular post in a new tab and then also be able to come right back to the index.] sharelong60 writes: Ann, there are also women who took the million dollar training and they are called rajreshwares but I'm probably not spelling it correctly. For example, the Raj's Candace Badgett is one and I heard that she used to wear a crown sometimes. What is the million dollar training? Dear Dear FFL; Maharishi did not designate a 'Guru' to follow him; however, the Raja are like the equivalent of executive vice presidents in our modern day corporate order. And, like executive vice-presidents in any large corporations or like Lieutenant-Generals in large armies or revolutionary movements, some simply are more effective than others; there are Rajas and there are Rajas. Some are there because they are effective executives of the corporate mission and some are there because of their money and their willing essential capital support that they can altruistically give to the execution of the mission of the corporation. This was all very well planned out ahead of time by Maharishi. Get over it. It was well prepared for. They were given the authority and responsibility for the TM movement the way it is today. They certainly are learning as they go along what they in fact have inherited from Maharishi. You will notice that they rarely wear their outfits in public now. They are learning. I wish them all well and great success. A lot is riding on them. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome Thanks for this explanation of the role of the Rajas. So they are more like a board of directors of a company it sounds like. This is interesting. Just because these MEN have assets does this mean they have any expertise in running a company? Or a Movement? What are these MEN'S backgrounds? Can you provide a list of who they are and how long they remain or have remained on the board? You need at least a million in gifts to the Movement to qualify? How often do they get together? Now I am interested in this group of MEN who, apparently, due to their financial status and willingness to give to the Movement have been asked to wear robes and crowns. Tell me more. alexander_stanley@... wrote : When the whole raja thing came about, people came up to me on more than one occasion and asked what it was like to be the brother of a raja. My reply was that it's exactly like not being the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry
The shastras and hindu philosophy clearly state that Siddhis are by-products of sadhana. They are never the main goal and one must never aspire for them. The Bhagavad Gita basicaly state that there are two types of actions. Sreyas and Preyas. Sreyas is an action that is difficult to perform now, but brings rewards later. Preyas is an action that is easy to perform now, but brings suffering later. The Bhagavad Gita also states that there are basicaly two types of attachments. Raagam and Dwesham. Raagam is positive attachment (attraction). Dwesham is negative attachment (repulsion). The mind keeps occilating between them. The hindu Shastras basicaly gives two lists, a 'white list' and a 'black list'. Yamas is whitelist, list of moral obligations. These are things one must mandatorialy. Niyamas is blacklist, list of ethical restrictions. One must never under any circumstances do those deeds. The two lists combine to form Yoga. In ancient hindu texts 3000 or 4000 years ago, there were basicaly two paths, Gyana yoga and karma yoga. Bhakthi was seen as something essential for all paths and all types of yoga. All paths begin with bhakthi yoga. Bhakthi starts with prem, a love for the divine. --- noozguru@... wrote : The first one is a Vashikaran siddhi. So that means that all the TM-Sidhi folks are Vamacharis. :-D On 08/23/2014 09:28 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am ticked off that I didn't get the one from understanding the language of animals Friendliness To develop friendliness Compassion To develop compassion Happiness To develop happiness The Strength of an Elephant To develop superhuman strength The Bronchial Tube To develop calmness The Trachea To develop control of hunger and thirst The Navel To develop knowledge of the body On Soma so that Soma Flows Everywhere To develop the flow of soma The Coronal Light To see sidhas Inner Light To develop knowledge of things hidden from view The Sun to develop knowledge of cosmic visions (lokas) The Moon To develop knowledge of arrangement of stars The Pole Star To develop knowledge of motion of stars The Three-fold Parinamas (or Changes) To develop knowledge of past and future The Heart To develop knowledge of the mind The Appearance of the Body To develop invisiibility Word...Object Implied...the Idea Thereof Overlapping To develop knowledge of language of animals and all beings The Conquering of the Vital Force Samana To develop effulgence The Distinction Between Buddhi Purusha To develop discriminative enlightenment Purusha Intuition To develop prescience PurushaDivine Hearing To develop clairaudience PurushaDivine Touch To develop divine touch PurushaDivine Sight To develop divine sight PurushaDivine Taste To develop divine taste PurushaDivine Smell To develop divine smell On Relationship of Body and AkashaLightness of Cotton Fiber To develop levitation Soma, Soma, Soma To develop soma and smooth unstressing Rest in Shavasana 15 min or longer
[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry
I think Judy, or emptybill or WillyTex can do that. Where is Judy when I need her? ---Danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Hey Jedi,Good job. Can you put that in a Jewish Framework for the rest of us? Thanks in advance. --- jedi_spock@... wrote : The shastras and hindu philosophy clearly state that Siddhis are by-products of sadhana. They are never the main goal and one must never aspire for them. The Bhagavad Gita basicaly state that there are two types of actions. Sreyas and Preyas. Sreyas is an action that is difficult to perform now, but brings rewards later. Preyas is an action that is easy to perform now, but brings suffering later. The Bhagavad Gita also states that there are basicaly two types of attachments. Raagam and Dwesham. Raagam is positive attachment (attraction). Dwesham is negative attachment (repulsion). The mind keeps occilating between them. The hindu Shastras basicaly gives two lists, a 'white list' and a 'black list'. Yamas is whitelist, list of moral obligations. These are things one must mandatorialy. Niyamas is blacklist, list of ethical restrictions. One must never under any circumstances do those deeds. The two lists combine to form Yoga. In ancient hindu texts 3000 or 4000 years ago, there were basicaly two paths, Gyana yoga and karma yoga. Bhakthi was seen as something essential for all paths and all types of yoga. All paths begin with bhakthi yoga. Bhakthi starts with prem, a love for the divine. --- noozguru@... wrote : The first one is a Vashikaran siddhi. So that means that all the TM-Sidhi folks are Vamacharis. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Significance of the American's Beheading
s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : The day may come when US Navy Seals have to drop in to sort things . . . Just ask, you know we have a Special Relationship. Rock me baby
Re: [FairfieldLife] Relating to the TM Raja
Poor ethical behaviors. Kick out those bums!and btw, who's 'old'?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Those are some good points, and observations Ann, but we must remember that Michael has acquired special powers of knowing why people start meditating, and why they stop meditating. Why it was just a couple days ago when he kindly corrected me as to the real reasons I curtailed, or discontinued part of my practice of TM and TMSP. He was very adamant about it, and it was really quite revealing. Sort of like he was screaming at me. Maybe he can dust off that old shingle of his, MJ Spiritualist, and channel similar advice to others. Methinks, Michael is going to take exception to some of your observations. MJ seems to get on a train that is rolling fast down some track and then he finds himself unable to jump off it or stop it and before you know it he is accusing you of being a big TM apologist and cultist and virtually prostrating yourself at Maharishi's feet, even now, even though it is readily apparent that you are more like me: we both involved ourselves for a while in TM (you a teacher, me a student for 4 years at MIU) but now we have both moved on to other aspects of our lives. We hold no animosity for the Movement nor do we regret our time and energy spent doing what we did years ago. But once MJ gets something in his mind it seems hard to shake it out of there. He would have made a good fighting dog - once he gets a hold he simply won't let go, even when he's pulled the other dog's head clear off its shoulders.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner-like Effect of Consciousness and Square Roots
...and anyone who doesn't accept 'action-at-a-distance' is no Scientist. A Superstitious Materialist, maybe.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Alternative Therapy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : coming in late on this, as I mentioned before, I had a patch of psoriasis just below my knee for twenty plus years. Ann sent me some colloidal silver and the first thing it did was dry that patch up. I then continued to apply it, although less often, and it has completely taken the patch away. My knee shows no sign of it, and I've stopped applying the ointment. In fact the little one or two oz. container Ann sent me is probably more than half full. And of course, my athletes foot had a little flair up, and after a couple applications, that has gone as well. That is so great Steve. I will add this to the testimonials when I sell this to my customers. But Sal will accuse me of selling snake oil. Still, although I have not rigorously scientifically tested the product on hundreds of psoriasis cases it appears it worked for you so I can tell them that and they can take their chances on it working for them. Too bad Sal only considers those things that have been confined to a laboratory somewhere and scrutinized by people in white lab coats for years valid or trustworthy. That feels so limited and limiting. During that twenty year period to treat the psoriasis, I visited doctors who prescribed ointments that virtually did no good. One the other hand, if I had a serious ailment, I would straight away go for an allopathic treatment. I have seen (or heard) of too many people with serious ailments get side tracked on useless approaches, only to die in short order. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/22/2014 12:12 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: salyavin, imo the concepts thoroughly tested and safe and objective science are additional ways in which we kid ourselves. On Friday, August 22, 2014 1:56 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/22/2014 09:17 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/22/2014 12:12 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Do yourself a favour and drop the conspiracy theories when it comes to your health. No, I use the information gleaned from taking workshops in alternative medicine. I used alternative medicine since 1972. You do know you are arguing against people who have actually taken courses in it? = Wow, courses. And how many courses have you taken? = It's not about courses it's about whether what they teach has been thoroughly tested. This is what I've been saying all day, there may be great wonders still to be discovered but until it's as well tested as possible we will not know and end up with the sort of alternative therapies we have which largely involve placebo's and the white coat effect for their efficacy, such as it is. What some folks call Quackery may also just be Folk Medicine and has a record of never harming anyone compared to many pharmaceuticals. I always love the one ad which is one minute long and 15 seconds for the actual endorsement by a sports figure and then 40 seconds of warnings and disclaimers. Only a fool would want to take that shit. And it also for an ailment that is curable by correcting the metabolic imbalance. And then there is the problem of proper doctors misdiagnosing. It happens far too often. I think Salvy's just a science fan and not a scientist.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description
Ann I'm glad you've found a clown to be such good friends with. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Those are some good points, and observations Ann, but we must remember that Michael has acquired special powers of knowing why people start meditating, and why they stop meditating. Why it was just a couple days ago when he kindly corrected me as to the real reasons I curtailed, or discontinued part of my practice of TM and TMSP. He was very adamant about it, and it was really quite revealing. Sort of like he was screaming at me. Maybe he can dust off that old shingle of his, MJ Spiritualist, and channel similar advice to others. Methinks, Michael is going to take exception to some of your observations. MJ seems to get on a train that is rolling fast down some track and then he finds himself unable to jump off it or stop it and before you know it he is accusing you of being a big TM apologist and cultist and virtually prostrating yourself at Maharishi's feet, even now, even though it is readily apparent that you are more like me: we both involved ourselves for a while in TM (you a teacher, me a student for 4 years at MIU) but now we have both moved on to other aspects of our lives. We hold no animosity for the Movement nor do we regret our time and energy spent doing what we did years ago. But once MJ gets something in his mind it seems hard to shake it out of there. He would have made a good fighting dog - once he gets a hold he simply won't let go, even when he's pulled the other dog's head clear off its shoulders.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description
Please relax-a-bit on the 'fighting dog' and 'MJ Spiritualist' allusions. A tad inflammatory and counter-productive to my very professional efforts To Help Mike (Which is also the working title for my upcoming publication, book, blog, doctoral dissertation; I'm open to your suggestions).Mike is angry, and unjustifiably so. I expect he has, long-ago, misplaced the source of this anger; thus it is exhibited uncontrollably. He thus cannot control himself, making him more angry. So let's Help Mike (and synergistically help dannyboy with his upcoming blockbuster book[s], blog[s], movies, interviews...
[FairfieldLife] Re: opinion of oprah
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I post this mainly in hopes that level headed science appreciator Sal and starry eyed quackery fan Share will give us their considered (and one would assume) entirely opposite opinions This bit says it all for me: Asimov died in 1992 -- six years into Oprah’s syndicated sabotage upon sense -- having lived long enough to see American Intellectual Life degenerate to depths worse than he could have imagined... from “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge” into a cultural elevation of ignorance as not only “just as good”, but in every way superior to knowledge... A shift surely affected in part by Winfrey’s outsized influence. When TV is the main educator it's going to seek the lowest common denominator, another problem with capitalism. There's no one to check the facts and point out errors on Oprah, the audience figures rule, give the people what they want. No arguments from me. TV, in 95% of the cases, is a dreadful waste of time and I simply don't watch it. But somehow equating people's belief in or use of alternative medicinal therapies on talk shows and Oprah seems far fetched. I think every single one of us who has either practiced TM or been interested in alternate diets beyond eating as carnivores have come across literature or people/nutritionist/naturpaths who know about herbs, tinctures and health care from days gone by or other cultures. It is not all gleaned from day talk shows, by a long shot. And as for Oprah, I wouldn't know if she was right, wrong or somewhere in the middle as I have never seen her show, have you? Unlike on British TV where we have rules about what how opinion pieces are to be portrayed compared to something with supporting evidence. That just covers documentaries though, I'm sure that chat shows rely on the hopeful integrity of the presenter. We have no one like Oprah thank the lord and the BBC is quite proud of its stance on impartiality, the Tories will destroy it though in their endless quest to turn the UK into America. If someone makes money out of it, it must intrinsically be a good thing right? http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement Oprah Winfrey ruins 2013 Harvard commencement http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement Last year’s Harvard Commencement keynote speech -- a trite, forgettable, and platitudinous monologue delivered by journalist Fareed Zakaria -- wafted inoffensiv View on www.examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement; class=ygrps-yiv-793098506ygrps-yiv-273569700link-enhancr-card-url ygrps-yiv-793098506ygrps-yiv-273569700link-enhancr-element Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : a little shake rattle and roll here is a wake up about 3:20 to an earthquake centered centered about 10 or 12 miles from here. How bad is that Bhairitu, cracked walls? Fissures in the pavement? Some structural damage and loss of power to 8000 homes. I think it was magnitude 6.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description
Ann and Steve,I misjudged, regrets. You both were performing Clown Therapy with Mike. I wish I had been consulted before you initiated this course of treatment. I do concur, of course, because sometimes laughter is the best medicine. And, we do want To Help Mike (Copyright 2014, All Rights Reserved, film rights available, contact: dannyboy2014)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time
On 8/23/2014 8:10 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Richard,As for my References: I'd ask that you make your inquiries with Bevan Morris and Craig Pearson, I'm sure they will have some lovely things to pass on. And to respond directly to this particular Post of yours (although somewhat nasty in tone), your signature That's all I can figure out. is quite tiresome. It only serves to point out the difficulty you have in keeping up. As a suggestion, it's best NOT to point out your slow... Thanks for the information, Dan, but I can't think of anything to ask Bevan or Craig right now. Maybe we'll look them up when we get to Fairfield next year.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
Nothing felt here, about 60 miles SE of Napa. Of course it WAS 3:30 AM or so...No damage either. PS Sal, got your response about the Bayer lens re: sat photo of plane. Thanks for the info and reply - As others have said, the scrolling function is busted on neo, so although I saw it earlier, when I tried to revisit, Yahoo has decided that free forums with unlimited scrolling eat too much RAM, and I couldn't reply. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : a little shake rattle and roll here is a wake up about 3:20 to an earthquake centered centered about 10 or 12 miles from here. How bad is that Bhairitu, cracked walls? Fissures in the pavement? Some structural damage and loss of power to 8000 homes. I think it was magnitude 6.
[FairfieldLife] Re: opinion of oprah
Ann,You impress as a fair-minded person. I admit to watching Oprah. Ok we're past that. My wife (don't let her know that I am promoting her) has written a wonderful account of Vegetarianism entitled The Vegetarian Hotel. It is memoir that's engaging. Try your library. Where do you live?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Nothing felt here, about 60 miles SE of Napa. Of course it WAS 3:30 AM or so...No damage either. http://news.yahoo.com/northern-california-struck-6-0-magnitude-earthquake-120200248.html http://news.yahoo.com/northern-california-struck-6-0-magnitude-earthquake-120200248.html PS Sal, got your response about the Bayer lens re: sat photo of plane. Thanks for the info and reply - As others have said, the scrolling function is busted on neo, so although I saw it earlier, when I tried to revisit, Yahoo has decided that free forums with unlimited scrolling eat too much RAM, and I couldn't reply. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : a little shake rattle and roll here is a wake up about 3:20 to an earthquake centered centered about 10 or 12 miles from here. How bad is that Bhairitu, cracked walls? Fissures in the pavement? Some structural damage and loss of power to 8000 homes. I think it was magnitude 6.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Ann I'm glad you've found a clown to be such good friends with. Hey, I still like you best MJ, Steve just happens to be misunderstood by you right now, that's all. Here he is a family guy, devoted to wife and offspring, working hard every day in his business after having taught and practiced TM many years ago. I'm just understanding his predicament where others make stuff up about him and trumpet it from the towers of FFL in the hopes that if they say it enough it will suddenly become true. Hey, but don't listen to me, I'm only an attention vampire, cultist and dumb as a bag of hammers. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Those are some good points, and observations Ann, but we must remember that Michael has acquired special powers of knowing why people start meditating, and why they stop meditating. Why it was just a couple days ago when he kindly corrected me as to the real reasons I curtailed, or discontinued part of my practice of TM and TMSP. He was very adamant about it, and it was really quite revealing. Sort of like he was screaming at me. Maybe he can dust off that old shingle of his, MJ Spiritualist, and channel similar advice to others. Methinks, Michael is going to take exception to some of your observations. MJ seems to get on a train that is rolling fast down some track and then he finds himself unable to jump off it or stop it and before you know it he is accusing you of being a big TM apologist and cultist and virtually prostrating yourself at Maharishi's feet, even now, even though it is readily apparent that you are more like me: we both involved ourselves for a while in TM (you a teacher, me a student for 4 years at MIU) but now we have both moved on to other aspects of our lives. We hold no animosity for the Movement nor do we regret our time and energy spent doing what we did years ago. But once MJ gets something in his mind it seems hard to shake it out of there. He would have made a good fighting dog - once he gets a hold he simply won't let go, even when he's pulled the other dog's head clear off its shoulders.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
Were the Wine storage facilities affected? Were bottles broken?Remember when they had that damned fire in the Wine Storage Facility and we, in NYC, needed to pay an-arm-and-a-leg for something drinkable. Never Again!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description
Ann,You're really good! I bow down to you and learn. (is that haiku can i sell it? Copyright 2014 All Rights for Sale, contact my agent: danfriedman2002@
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time
Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy
Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism
On 8/23/2014 8:34 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: A smarter person than one who takes the word of a huckster over their own good common sense. When I looked at the old posters of the TM-Siddhi advertisements offering and I quote: develop enlightenment through the Transcendental Meditation program resulting in: Levitation, Invisibility, Mastery over Nature, Fulfillment of all Desires and Aspirations, Creation of an Ideal Society in the Age of Enlightenment It could be that you are still in a trance-induction state. According to what you've posted, the effects of the cult indoctrination can last for years. Apparently you have never consulted a cult-exit counselor. That way, you could get the help you obviously need and find out if you are still under the mind-control. Probably the first step in your deprogramming is to to admit you have a cognitive dissonance problem. There's only so much that we can do to help you on a discussion group like FFL. I thought how could anyone have been stupid enough to believe that shit. And I admit I was. But fortunately I have woken from the ridiculous dream Marshy enticed everyone with and have gotten back to being grounded and living with common sense. It's not really stupid, but some people are highly prone to the suggestions of others and to peer pressure. It's been what, thirty years since you became a victim of the mind control? It may be that the problem developed years before you took a bus up to Iowa to work in the kitchen and live in a pod. Maybe you were neglected or rejected in your teens and so you tried to turn the TMO into your religion and your guru into a god who could save you from all your mental torments. It looks like maybe you have a brain problem situation on your hands. I'd get it checked by a professional if I were you - just to be on the safe side - before the condition gets any worse. *From:* danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:28 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism Help me out. What is the word for someone who prefers allegations over reality?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time
Like. On 8/23/2014 9:36 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Dan, thank you for perfect reminder: the purpose of creation is the expansion of happiness. Tonight I watched The Quartet, a sweet and moving story about a retirement home for musicians. Wonderful music included... On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:01 PM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Mikey,You flatter yourself when you imagine that I have not, already forgotten about you. And I'm not yapping at you'; again you are mistaken. I am enjoying myself. You do know that the whole purpose of life is the expansion of happiness. Have fun!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One
On 8/23/2014 9:58 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: friedman, you apparently are not sharp enough to include the post you are replying to in your post - get up to speed will ya? Doesn't matter - it's all about you. *From:* danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:01 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One By George he's got it!I gotta say...the boy's sharp!
[FairfieldLife] Replicating The Meissner-like Effect of Consciousness and Square Roots
Replicating the Science: Within TM the progressive element that deep down inside just wants to teach TM, see it work out, would also really like to be able to replicate the large-scale science. Data and the science testing of hypothesis is always what we were about historically. That was what the Invincible America Course was about recently and the bringing of pundits to Vedic City too. So often the exercise of policy of the TM movement was all about science testing in a large way. The failure more recently was that they never really got the critical large numbers to be able to pursue the replication studies. Never got the critical numbers over 2,000 meditating together for long enough. Did not get the requisite numbers of pundits together for long enough. That is where TM is at now for its fund-raising to do large science. Seemingly run aground on its past ethical performance. Apparently as it became evident that the Howard Settle money was not going to be forthcoming any more they canvased other rich people for supplemental supporting donations to bring more pundits, the response was 'let me see other people do it before I do it'. The project foundered for a basic lack of trust of the inside. Damn. That was even before Girish Varma got in to trouble in India. -Buck LEnglish5 has put his finger on something around the science replication of what were preliminary and evidently good results. His point is looking at how to replicate given the practical and real constraints of such large replication research. This is extremely important as to the fate and course of the TM movement going forward. Maharishi drove the TM movement for decades with 'big science' of hypothesis testing based on observation. The 'big science' work now evidently is constrained and it seems the constraint is rooted a cultural problem within TM about the availability of money now from within the TM community itself. This is actually where MJ seems to have a related point about behavior. TM replication research is suffering in a constraint right now from our old ethical problems about money in TM and broad perceptions in the community of old financial dealings. Those perceptions even within TM quite evidently have been corrosive and eroding within communal TM itself. This is very much part of what makes moot now the gatherings of high enough numbers of people meditating in groups, high enough numbers of students meditating in our schools, and high enough numbers of pundits in Vedic City or in India to be able to gather significant data and test hypothesis. Money. The practical and serious obstacle to replication research that Sparaig is raising is a lack of forthcoming money coming out of the meditating community and a general lack of numbers of meditators (aside from Latin America) available in the TM movement now stemming in a malaise of historical ethical dissonance. -Buck Replication, as 'proper' Science process: LEnglish5 is entirely correct. “The point is to get 8000+ to gather in one place *every single day*. That isn't easy to do.” Anti-science skeptics could say, “..one could just as easily say that Science is another way we have of kidding ourselves!” Honest people would fairly answer: “Not really, the whole point of science is that we have a system of testing that tells us whether we are kidding ourselves, ..Same with all branches of science, it allows you to say with some certainty that what you have is knowledge rather than belief and knowing that the certainty isn't complete allows for further refinement all the time.” ..TM and Maharishi haters may try to cut it all off at the knees by asserting the research was all bad but actually the Meissner-like Effect of Consciousness research was quite good enough to get published in respected places. What remains to do is replication. Of course. -Buck Yes, a tragic failure of the recent Invincible America course is that it never achieved significant large-scale numbers to perform replication Meissner Effect of consciousness research with. ..that the overall administration of the Invincible America course allowed the numbers to fragment by sending important groups of Purusha and Mother Divine away as the numbers were approaching critical mass. That was a huge disappointment to all the progressive elements of the TM movement. The longer course of human history will very likely regret that sad flaw of dispersal and fragmentation of the TM movement that was allowed for in the administration of the numbers meditating during that time. Was a very unfortunate turn of events. I certainly hope for the best though, that angels of a better nature can achieve significant results in well controlled large-scale Meissner Effect of consciousness science research in Latin America where our gringo administration of the Invincible America course it seems were unable to allow themselves to.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time
Why don't you inform him of my comments about the bs they promote as truth. Its the little snakes like you who allow the pythons like Bevan to continue to crawl around doing damage in the name of Supreme Knowledge From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description
Who ever said you were dumb as hammers? From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Ann I'm glad you've found a clown to be such good friends with. Hey, I still like you best MJ, Steve just happens to be misunderstood by you right now, that's all. Here he is a family guy, devoted to wife and offspring, working hard every day in his business after having taught and practiced TM many years ago. I'm just understanding his predicament where others make stuff up about him and trumpet it from the towers of FFL in the hopes that if they say it enough it will suddenly become true. Hey, but don't listen to me, I'm only an attention vampire, cultist and dumb as a bag of hammers. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Those are some good points, and observations Ann, but we must remember that Michael has acquired special powers of knowing why people start meditating, and why they stop meditating. Why it was just a couple days ago when he kindly corrected me as to the real reasons I curtailed, or discontinued part of my practice of TM and TMSP. He was very adamant about it, and it was really quite revealing. Sort of like he was screaming at me. Maybe he can dust off that old shingle of his, MJ Spiritualist, and channel similar advice to others. Methinks, Michael is going to take exception to some of your observations. MJ seems to get on a train that is rolling fast down some track and then he finds himself unable to jump off it or stop it and before you know it he is accusing you of being a big TM apologist and cultist and virtually prostrating yourself at Maharishi's feet, even now, even though it is readily apparent that you are more like me: we both involved ourselves for a while in TM (you a teacher, me a student for 4 years at MIU) but now we have both moved on to other aspects of our lives. We hold no animosity for the Movement nor do we regret our time and energy spent doing what we did years ago. But once MJ gets something in his mind it seems hard to shake it out of there. He would have made a good fighting dog - once he gets a hold he simply won't let go, even when he's pulled the other dog's head clear off its shoulders.
Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism
All,Please! It is best to just placate Michael. Anything else will just set him off. And result in unpredictable rages. k?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angry
jedi, thanks so much for this. I remember reading in later chaps of Gita something along these lines: that which begins well ends badly and that which begins badly ends well. Fascinating! On Sunday, August 24, 2014 8:09 AM, jedi_sp...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The shastras and hindu philosophy clearly state that Siddhis are by-products of sadhana. They are never the main goal and one must never aspire for them. The Bhagavad Gita basicaly state that there are two types of actions. Sreyas and Preyas. Sreyas is an action that is difficult to perform now, but brings rewards later. Preyas is an action that is easy to perform now, but brings suffering later. The Bhagavad Gita also states that there are basicaly two types of attachments. Raagam and Dwesham. Raagam is positive attachment (attraction). Dwesham is negative attachment (repulsion). The mind keeps occilating between them. The hindu Shastras basicaly gives two lists, a 'white list' and a 'black list'. Yamas is whitelist, list of moral obligations. These are things one must mandatorialy. Niyamas is blacklist, list of ethical restrictions. One must never under any circumstances do those deeds. The two lists combine to form Yoga. In ancient hindu texts 3000 or 4000 years ago, there were basicaly two paths, Gyana yoga and karma yoga. Bhakthi was seen as something essential for all paths and all types of yoga. All paths begin with bhakthi yoga. Bhakthi starts with prem, a love for the divine. --- noozguru@... wrote : The first one is a Vashikaran siddhi. So that means that all the TM-Sidhi folks are Vamacharis. :-D On 08/23/2014 09:28 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am ticked off that I didn't get the one from understanding the language of animals Friendliness To develop friendliness Compassion To develop compassion Happiness To develop happiness The Strength of an Elephant To develop superhuman strength The Bronchial Tube To develop calmness The Trachea To develop control of hunger and thirst The Navel To develop knowledge of the body On Soma so that Soma Flows Everywhere To develop the flow of soma The Coronal Light To see sidhas Inner Light To develop knowledge of things hidden from view The Sun to develop knowledge of cosmic visions (lokas) The Moon To develop knowledge of arrangement of stars The Pole Star To develop knowledge of motion of stars The Three-fold Parinamas (or Changes) To develop knowledge of past and future The Heart To develop knowledge of the mind The Appearance of the Body To develop invisiibility Word...Object Implied...the Idea Thereof Overlapping To develop knowledge of language of animals and all beings The Conquering of the Vital Force Samana To develop effulgence The Distinction Between Buddhi Purusha To develop discriminative enlightenment Purusha Intuition To develop prescience PurushaDivine Hearing To develop clairaudience PurushaDivine Touch To develop divine touch PurushaDivine Sight To develop divine sight PurushaDivine Taste To develop divine taste PurushaDivine Smell To develop divine smell On Relationship of Body and AkashaLightness of Cotton Fiber To develop levitation Soma, Soma, Soma To develop soma and smooth unstressing Rest in Shavasana 15 min or longer
[FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Nothing felt here, about 60 miles SE of Napa. Of course it WAS 3:30 AM or so...No damage either. That's good, my sister probably didn't notice it then. She hates Earthquakes, I tell her that North California is a pretty dumb place to live in that case. I'm sure the locals just shrug them off. PS Sal, got your response about the Bayer lens re: sat photo of plane. Thanks for the info and reply - As others have said, the scrolling function is busted on neo, so although I saw it earlier, when I tried to revisit, Yahoo has decided that free forums with unlimited scrolling eat too much RAM, and I couldn't reply. It's more an idea really, I've never seen an effect like it on terrestrial based gear, but they do use a filter over the sensor that breaks light up into its component parts so each bit can be registered seperately and get put back together for a picture, so I'm guessing that's the cause but not entirely sure how it ended up like that. I would like to see what sort of camera they use and how big the sensor is etc. but I think google Earth pics are ex-military stuff so they might not want to divulge the info, they still won't let anyone see what the camera in the U2 looked like! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : a little shake rattle and roll here is a wake up about 3:20 to an earthquake centered centered about 10 or 12 miles from here. How bad is that Bhairitu, cracked walls? Fissures in the pavement? Some structural damage and loss of power to 8000 homes. I think it was magnitude 6.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: opinion of oprah
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I post this mainly in hopes that level headed science appreciator Sal and starry eyed quackery fan Share will give us their considered (and one would assume) entirely opposite opinions On 8/24/2014 1:28 AM, salyavin808 wrote: This bit says it all for me: Addressing the important issues! So, James Foley get his head cut off by a British ISIS terrorist, but Oprah Winfrey is your enemy. Go figure. Asimov died in 1992 -- six years into Oprah’s syndicated sabotage upon sense -- having lived long enough to see American Intellectual Life degenerate to depths worse than he could have imagined... from “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge” into a cultural elevation of ignorance as not only “just as good”, but in every way superior to knowledge... A shift surely affected in part by Winfrey’s outsized influence. When TV is the main educator it's going to seek the lowest common denominator, another problem with capitalism. There's no one to check the facts and point out errors on Oprah, the audience figures rule, give the people what they want. Unlike on British TV where we have rules about what how opinion pieces are to be portrayed compared to something with supporting evidence. That just covers documentaries though, I'm sure that chat shows rely on the hopeful integrity of the presenter. We have no one like Oprah thank the lord and the BBC is quite proud of its stance on impartiality, the Tories will destroy it though in their endless quest to turn the UK into America. If someone makes money out of it, it must intrinsically be a good thing right? http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement image http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement Oprah Winfrey ruins 2013 Harvard commencement http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement Last year’s Harvard Commencement keynote speech -- a trite, forgettable, and platitudinous monologue delivered by journalist Fareed Zakaria -- wafted inoffensiv View on www.examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time
Dear Richard, Share, et al,I think it best if we just present ourselves to Michael as if we are 'just playing with him'. He will, in turn, find this less threatening and feel safer. If we are To Help Mike (Copyright 2014, All Rights Protected and for sale, please negotiate directly with my Lawyer Daughter), we need to make him feel protected. Best for all involved and All Who Care (Copyright Requested 2014).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Richard
On 8/24/2014 5:34 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You are wasting your time and energy - I delete all of your idiotic posts unread now. Only now? I'm most impressed at your perseverance! So, it's all about Richard. You guys sound really scared.
Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy Good morning, Dan, when you reply, please click on that grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that - then, the previous posts will show up under yours. Anyway, when you mentioned a personal library, I recently came across a post I saved from FFL, in 2011, with many quotes of Maharishi's, pertaining to celestial life. There were many taken from the Bhagavd Gita commentary, and SBAL, which I have left out, as I am quite certain you have those. This is six pages, or so. The first one, The Glow addresses the question often posed here, about the possibility of other life in the universe, and then some. The Glow 1959 Maharishi: We see before us great extension of the universe, so many worlds here and there. We begin to wonder whether man like us or beings or life exists in those parts or not. The almighty creator wouldn’t create anything without meaning. So, what is spreading in this unlimited universe is different innumerable strata of creation. We could describe it in short: gross strata of creation, subtle strata of creation. Gross strata of creation means where earth element is predominant. Subtler strata of creation where water element is predominant. And in the creation where earth element is predominant there would be millions of worlds pertaining to millions of strata where earth element would be predominant. Predominance of earth element means from 50% to 100% earth element. And other 50% other four elements. So predominance of earth element means innumerable strata ranging from 99% and then coming on to 50%. There will be innumerable worlds where the earth element will be predominant. Likewise there would be innumerable, innumerable worlds representing different strata of creation where water element is predominant. Innumerable worlds like that representing different strata of creation where fire element would be predominant. Like that where air element would be predominant and like that where akasha tattva would be predominant. This is the whole extension of the universe, unlimited, unthinkably big, extended to – we could say – infinity. The creation where the akasha tattva is in predominance is in this field the subtlest field of creation. And because all this field is the field of glow, all the creation that there is, the body and all that is there – the body of the people who live here, the beings residing here, their bodies are celestial bodies, made of all light, that glow which you experience in your meditation. The whole creation is of that glow. The houses that are there, they are built out of that glow material as we on earth having earthly bodies make use of the earth to build our houses; they make use of that celestial matter of which their bodies are made – glow, made of all light. Nearest to imagine would be houses built out of glass bricks and the man made of that glass – all celestial. This is the field of celestial body, celestial life. This is the field of Gods. All the innumerable Gods, the stories that we hear, come from this field. Somewhere in the creation there exists a world of celestial life and that is that field where akasha tattva is in predominance. When we say that there are worlds of different intensity of life, gross and subtle, then even our experience of meditation shows that there is within us that field of glow which we are counting here to be the world of celestial life. That you have experienced within yourself, when the Mantra goes and you get to the most subtle state of vibration, that field of glow, and that within yourself, which is the field of celestial life. In its pure state it might be existing in some part of the universe, but again in its pure state it exists within us as a particular subtle strata of our own existence. And therefore by getting in tune with that more and more we get directly tuned to that field of Gods in different strata of the universe. You have heard the saying that all that there is in the universe is within man? And that is it. The subtlest strata of our existence, that state of glow, that we experience, is the field of God. And from there comes to us the direct communion with those celestial Gods. And this is what Christ said, ‘the Kingdom of heaven is within you’. Certainly it is somewhere in the universe, the life where there
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time
Dearest Michael,Thank you for your comments. Take it easy. I mean it!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: opinion of oprah
Oprah is our friend. ISIS is out enemy.Oprah helps build our morale. She is a caring woman, who many can easily relate to (including myself). I love Oprah I don't love anything about ISIS.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One
Placate, placateplease!
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and its spiritual Darshan The Dawn of a New Age
Richard, I like your insight that often what people don't say is as significant as what they do say. On Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:09 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 8/21/2014 9:49 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard is your comment about not defending, not speaking up, is that directed to me or salyavin? It's a comment meant for everyone that seems passive-aggressive. I think I actually got the phrase from Judy on Google Groups years ago. In a conversation between people, if someone maligns a friend, some people will speak up in their defense and some will not. The silence is usually taken to indicate agreement, otherwise I guess they would speak up in the friend's defense. At least where I come from. Quite often in a debate, what people don't say is as significant as what they do say. Where I come from, silence usually indicates agreement. On 8/21/2014 9:16 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Where I come from, silence conveys no information whatever. The interpretation of that silence, as being something significant, having meaning, is an act of the imagination. Fantasy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Actually it's a quite common assumption. If you're in a normal conversation at a cafe or a bar and someone starts to disparage a friend who isn't present, some people will speak up in their defense. Others, because of fear or because they don't care about the truth, will often just remain silent. Usually this indicates agreement. Some people just don't have strong beliefs and have never fought for what they think is right, preferring to just ignore false testimony.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and its spiritual Darshan The Dawn of a New Age
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I like your insight that often what people don't say is as significant as what they do say. I'm not saying anything. On Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:09 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 8/21/2014 9:49 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard is your comment about not defending, not speaking up, is that directed to me or salyavin? It's a comment meant for everyone that seems passive-aggressive. I think I actually got the phrase from Judy on Google Groups years ago. In a conversation between people, if someone maligns a friend, some people will speak up in their defense and some will not. The silence is usually taken to indicate agreement, otherwise I guess they would speak up in the friend's defense. At least where I come from. Quite often in a debate, what people don't say is as significant as what they do say. Where I come from, silence usually indicates agreement. On 8/21/2014 9:16 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Where I come from, silence conveys no information whatever. The interpretation of that silence, as being something significant, having meaning, is an act of the imagination. Fantasy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : Actually it's a quite common assumption. If you're in a normal conversation at a cafe or a bar and someone starts to disparage a friend who isn't present, some people will speak up in their defense. Others, because of fear or because they don't care about the truth, will often just remain silent. Usually this indicates agreement. Some people just don't have strong beliefs and have never fought for what they think is right, preferring to just ignore false testimony.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 6.1 Quake [1 Attachment]
On 8/24/2014 5:51 AM, noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: a little shake rattle and roll here is a wake up about 3:20 to an earthquake centered centered about 10 or 12 miles from here. There was a 6.4 earthquake in the San Fernando Valley when I was living in California - February 9, 1971 at 6:01 AM. The first thing I did was run out the front door to see what was going on. It was scary and unsettling (no pun intended) - nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. We have the Balcones Fault running through Austin but it's been quiet for a long time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balcones_Fault Mount Bonell escarpment at Balcones Fault /Escarpment formed by the Balcones Fault at Mount Bonnell in Austin/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Who ever said you were dumb as hammers? bawee, and it was a bag of hammers no less! I take to heart all that he has written about me. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Ann I'm glad you've found a clown to be such good friends with. Hey, I still like you best MJ, Steve just happens to be misunderstood by you right now, that's all. Here he is a family guy, devoted to wife and offspring, working hard every day in his business after having taught and practiced TM many years ago. I'm just understanding his predicament where others make stuff up about him and trumpet it from the towers of FFL in the hopes that if they say it enough it will suddenly become true. Hey, but don't listen to me, I'm only an attention vampire, cultist and dumb as a bag of hammers. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Those are some good points, and observations Ann, but we must remember that Michael has acquired special powers of knowing why people start meditating, and why they stop meditating. Why it was just a couple days ago when he kindly corrected me as to the real reasons I curtailed, or discontinued part of my practice of TM and TMSP. He was very adamant about it, and it was really quite revealing. Sort of like he was screaming at me. Maybe he can dust off that old shingle of his, MJ Spiritualist, and channel similar advice to others. Methinks, Michael is going to take exception to some of your observations. MJ seems to get on a train that is rolling fast down some track and then he finds himself unable to jump off it or stop it and before you know it he is accusing you of being a big TM apologist and cultist and virtually prostrating yourself at Maharishi's feet, even now, even though it is readily apparent that you are more like me: we both involved ourselves for a while in TM (you a teacher, me a student for 4 years at MIU) but now we have both moved on to other aspects of our lives. We hold no animosity for the Movement nor do we regret our time and energy spent doing what we did years ago. But once MJ gets something in his mind it seems hard to shake it out of there. He would have made a good fighting dog - once he gets a hold he simply won't let go, even when he's pulled the other dog's head clear off its shoulders.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 6.1 Quake [1 Attachment]
Richard, thanks, this is fascinating. I enjoy any info about rocks and geology. On Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:02 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: [Attachment(s) from Richard J. Williams included below] On 8/24/2014 5:51 AM, noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: a little shake rattle and roll here is a wake up about 3:20 to an earthquake centered centered about 10 or 12 miles from here. There was a 6.4 earthquake in the San Fernando Valley when I was living in California - February 9, 1971 at 6:01 AM. The first thing I did was run out the front door to see what was going on. It was scary and unsettling (no pun intended) - nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. We have the Balcones Fault running through Austin but it's been quiet for a long time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balcones_Fault Escarpment formed by the Balcones Fault at Mount Bonnell in Austin
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and its spiritual Darshan The Dawn of a New Age
I'm just saying that sometimes I feel a need to speak up. It's rare, but on those occasions I do have Something Very Important to Say.This title is now in the Public Domain.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description
Where is Barry?He's the Anti- Oprah you know, not warm, not compassionate, not caring, not easy to communicate with, in fact not communicative, in fact non-human. 'Miss the guy. Someone send someone to scare him? i wonder
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
Excellent post Macncheesy - it proves what a superstitious git the Old Goat was. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Richard,I met with Bevan here in NYC a couple of weeks ago. Part of our time was spent discussing Maharishi's extensive writings. I have, what I believe is, one of the largest personal libraries of his words. Just talking with Bevan about Maharishi's Books of Knowledge was inspiring. As to Craig, I helped proof his The Supreme Awakening (and also informed him of Maharishi's comments on that genre). In turn Craig has been providing Sources from his research. Enjoy the fairfielders! dannyboy Good morning, Dan, when you reply, please click on that grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that - then, the previous posts will show up under yours. Anyway, when you mentioned a personal library, I recently came across a post I saved from FFL, in 2011, with many quotes of Maharishi's, pertaining to celestial life. There were many taken from the Bhagavd Gita commentary, and SBAL, which I have left out, as I am quite certain you have those. This is six pages, or so. The first one, The Glow addresses the question often posed here, about the possibility of other life in the universe, and then some. The Glow 1959 Maharishi: We see before us great extension of the universe, so many worlds here and there. We begin to wonder whether man like us or beings or life exists in those parts or not. The almighty creator wouldn’t create anything without meaning. So, what is spreading in this unlimited universe is different innumerable strata of creation. We could describe it in short: gross strata of creation, subtle strata of creation. Gross strata of creation means where earth element is predominant. Subtler strata of creation where water element is predominant. And in the creation where earth element is predominant there would be millions of worlds pertaining to millions of strata where earth element would be predominant. Predominance of earth element means from 50% to 100% earth element. And other 50% other four elements. So predominance of earth element means innumerable strata ranging from 99% and then coming on to 50%. There will be innumerable worlds where the earth element will be predominant. Likewise there would be innumerable, innumerable worlds representing different strata of creation where water element is predominant. Innumerable worlds like that representing different strata of creation where fire element would be predominant. Like that where air element would be predominant and like that where akasha tattva would be predominant. This is the whole extension of the universe, unlimited, unthinkably big, extended to – we could say – infinity. The creation where the akasha tattva is in predominance is in this field the subtlest field of creation. And because all this field is the field of glow, all the creation that there is, the body and all that is there – the body of the people who live here, the beings residing here, their bodies are celestial bodies, made of all light, that glow which you experience in your meditation. The whole creation is of that glow. The houses that are there, they are built out of that glow material as we on earth having earthly bodies make use of the earth to build our houses; they make use of that celestial matter of which their bodies are made – glow, made of all light. Nearest to imagine would be houses built out of glass bricks and the man made of that glass – all celestial. This is the field of celestial body, celestial life. This is the field of Gods. All the innumerable Gods, the stories that we hear, come from this field. Somewhere in the creation there exists a world of celestial life and that is that field where akasha tattva is in predominance. When we say that there are worlds of different intensity of life, gross and subtle, then even our experience of meditation shows that there is within us that field of glow which we are counting here to be the world of celestial life. That you have experienced within yourself, when the Mantra goes and you get to the most subtle state of vibration, that field of glow, and that within yourself, which is the field of celestial life. In its pure state it might be existing in some part of the universe, but again in its pure state it exists within us as a particular subtle strata of our own existence. And therefore by getting in tune with that more and more we get directly tuned to that field of Gods in different strata of the universe. You have heard the saying that all that there is in the
Re: [FairfieldLife] 6.1 Quake
Respect the rocks!They're people too. Power to the People! and rocks
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
What grey msg in the lower left of the screen that says 'show msg. history' or something like that???
Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
My Dearest Michael,I encourage you to continue to relieve whatever burdens you carry. Don't edit yourself, let it flow. It is damaging to you to have all this anger, but worse for you to try to contain it. Even if you send everyone running, I want you to continue. Have a nice day, Author Dan
[FairfieldLife] My Weekly Commentary on The NY Sunday Times
Just to let you all know that you are missing nothing if you skip this Sunday's NYT:Front Cover Headline: If They Survive In Ebola World...Yikes! Magazine Cover: Eugenie Bouchard Could be the Future of Women's Tennis...All She Has to Do Is Win - enough saidso on to the Most Substantial Section in The Paper of Record, which is... You guessed it! Woman's Fashion's!!Now I like to read 272 pages of fashion as well as the next guy (well, maybe even more!), but these clothes suck (is that a technical fashion word?). I see more beautiful, more sexy, more, more, more riding in my elevator. And the knockout stuff on the Street, OMG! Don't these fashionistas ever get out? signing off a bit disappointed...
Re: [FairfieldLife] 6.1 Quake
Dan, which delightfully reminds me of another favorite movie of mine: Galaxy Quest (8/9) Movie CLIP - The Rock Monster (1999) HD Galaxy Quest (8/9) Movie CLIP - The Rock Monster (1999)... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo On Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:15 AM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Respect the rocks!They're people too. Power to the People! and rocks
Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One
On 8/24/2014 6:25 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Now, this is funny! Michael who for months on end posted from yahoo Basic, which features HUGE amounts of white space, is criticizing Dan who's been posting in the new format for a few days! As Richard would say, you can't make this stuff up (-: Most serious professionals use /Mozilla Thunderbird/ as a news reader. Also, /Google Chrome/ and /Google Mail/ works well. They are free. On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:01 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: friedman, you apparently are not sharp enough to include the post you are replying to in your post - get up to speed will ya? *From:* danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:01 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One By George he's got it!I gotta say...the boy's sharp!
Re: [FairfieldLife] 6.1 Quake
Dear Share,I hang onto every movie recomenation that you make, you have GOOD TASTE, Next up for me is your previously recommended legal thriller, John Grisham's Runaway Jury with John Cusak, Gene Hackman and Dustin Hoffman. What could be bad? (An Old Jewish Proverb) pass the popcorn, please
Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One
On 8/24/2014 6:46 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Dearest Share,Thank you for coming to my defense, I do appreciate it. I am, however attempting a new, improved (yet untested) tact with Mr Mike. I am trying to improve him. Make him a better man. I a word - rehabilitate him. Some may say that I am trying to 'save his soul' (I do expect that Richy suspects my motives as being Spiritual or Religiousity), but no. I act completely and unselfishly for The Good of Michael. Everyone, please join me in my Movement. The point is that he may never have even consulted a /cult-exit counselor/. It looks like he is using /alternative therapy/ for his /mind control/ condition. This kind of problem is insidious and can sometimes spread to others who are highly prone to the suggestions of others - /susceptibility/. In some cases, symptoms of disassociation can occur. When this happens there may be a break with reality, sometimes resulting in a permanent /cognitive dissonance/. Sometimes the call for help can be in the form /narcissistic tendencies/. At that point, I'm not sure that even Dr. Pete could help him get out of the /trance-induction/ state.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So you want to read this
Brown's Rock!Let Rita know about Onitsuku Tigers. She'll find them sold by individual collectors on the webster. Onitsuku designed running shoes (Runners) for select Olympic Teams. If I visit a Brazilian, I wear my Runners with a dark green background with a large yellow diamond in the middle. In the center of the diamond is a blue globe with 27 five-pointed white stars. They just Love it! I have many Teams' colors, but if it's an USA girls, I just talk about Oprah. That seems to work fine, so why fuss?? If I'm out at night, I wear white (or neon)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
Or perhaps they take three photo's in rapid succession with filters over the lens and then combine them to give one true colour image. That seems plausible ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Nothing felt here, about 60 miles SE of Napa. Of course it WAS 3:30 AM or so...No damage either. That's good, my sister probably didn't notice it then. She hates Earthquakes, I tell her that North California is a pretty dumb place to live in that case. I'm sure the locals just shrug them off. PS Sal, got your response about the Bayer lens re: sat photo of plane. Thanks for the info and reply - As others have said, the scrolling function is busted on neo, so although I saw it earlier, when I tried to revisit, Yahoo has decided that free forums with unlimited scrolling eat too much RAM, and I couldn't reply. It's more an idea really, I've never seen an effect like it on terrestrial based gear, but they do use a filter over the sensor that breaks light up into its component parts so each bit can be registered seperately and get put back together for a picture, so I'm guessing that's the cause but not entirely sure how it ended up like that. I would like to see what sort of camera they use and how big the sensor is etc. but I think google Earth pics are ex-military stuff so they might not want to divulge the info, they still won't let anyone see what the camera in the U2 looked like! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : a little shake rattle and roll here is a wake up about 3:20 to an earthquake centered centered about 10 or 12 miles from here. How bad is that Bhairitu, cracked walls? Fissures in the pavement? Some structural damage and loss of power to 8000 homes. I think it was magnitude 6.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
A dish fell over in my cabinet and the wireless phone flew off the top of my portable AC. Otherwise nothing much else here. I have a crack off the window frame in front of me that's been there for years but it didn't get worse. It may have been from the 4.0 quake back in 2007 that was 1 mile away. Funny thing is I woke up about one minute before it hit. When it hit I just laid there in bed wondering how long the thing was going to last. It did last about 20 seconds. Napa got the worst of it as the quake spread out from American Canyon which is on the other side of Vallejo up to Napa. Originally it was thought to be the Franklin fault which has been dormant for 1.6 million years but due to the spread it is a different previously unknown fault. Napa has a lot of old building not retrofitted for quakes. It will be interesting to see if anything downtown here has been damaged because there are a number of vacant downtown buildings not retrofitted. They're calling this the first major earthquake of the Internet Age. In fact rather than futzing with my clock radio I just went to local stations streaming feeds on my phone to get info. Here's a Dropcam video from someone's house near the epicenter. http://youtu.be/vQGomeOr0SA On 08/24/2014 05:05 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : a little shake rattle and roll here is a wake up about 3:20 to an earthquake centered centered about 10 or 12 miles from here. How bad is that Bhairitu, cracked walls? Fissures in the pavement?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
At least one Napa winery was damaged and a lot of folks report losing their wine collections. Mine stayed intact. ;-) On 08/24/2014 07:04 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Were the Wine storage facilities affected? Were bottles broken?Remember when they had that damned fire in the Wine Storage Facility and we, in NYC, needed to pay an-arm-and-a-leg for something drinkable. Never Again!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One
My Dear Doctor Richard,Or are you really a physician? Your diagnosis is so lacking, that your treatment is harmful. Neither you nor you Doctor Pete (is he licensed?) are mistreating this case at the expense of the patient. Michael's Condition is not the result of some 'mistreatment he received at the hand of the TMO'. This IS HIS DILUSION AND YOU AND PETER HAVE JOINED HIM IN THIS PARANOID FANTASY. Stop what you're doing; you (and Peetsy) are just fucking things up. Leave it All In My Capable Hands (Copyright 2014) And Everything Will Be Alright (Copyright Pending, All Rights Reserved). Your humble Doctor's Doctor, MD Friedman
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
My Best Friend Bhairitu,Let's drink to that! Let us lift a glass together in cheer for the good fortune that has befallen you. Where do you live? How much wine are we talking about? Should I bring my friends, or do you think we should make some new ones, jointly? Better to share than to hoard. And you know what they call people who drink alone! And it's not sociable.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
My Dear Fellow Bhairitu,No worries. I will bring you a new dish. Two new dishes! This Internet Age Earthquake was portended in ancient times. I stored wine in NYC forsuch an eventuality. NYC is built on a rock (granite) for just such reason. If California Wineries jack up their price, we'll get it from Europe or South America. In fact, Africa's got the shit!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : A dish fell over in my cabinet and the wireless phone flew off the top of my portable AC. Otherwise nothing much else here. I have a crack off the window frame in front of me that's been there for years but it didn't get worse. It may have been from the 4.0 quake back in 2007 that was 1 mile away. Funny thing is I woke up about one minute before it hit. When it hit I just laid there in bed wondering how long the thing was going to last. It did last about 20 seconds. Napa got the worst of it as the quake spread out from American Canyon which is on the other side of Vallejo up to Napa. Originally it was thought to be the Franklin fault which has been dormant for 1.6 million years but due to the spread it is a different previously unknown fault. Napa has a lot of old building not retrofitted for quakes. It will be interesting to see if anything downtown here has been damaged because there are a number of vacant downtown buildings not retrofitted. They're calling this the first major earthquake of the Internet Age. In fact rather than futzing with my clock radio I just went to local stations streaming feeds on my phone to get info. Here's a Dropcam video from someone's house near the epicenter. That's all a relief! We don't get them here at all really, not until they start gas fracking next year LOL... Raw Video: American Canyon Quake http://youtu.be/vQGomeOr0SA http://youtu.be/vQGomeOr0SA Raw Video: American Canyon Quake http://youtu.be/vQGomeOr0SA Courtesy Camille Alysson Freking. View full story at http://news.kron4.com View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/vQGomeOr0SA Preview by Yahoo I notice they didn't immediately go and stand in the doorways like you're supposed to! Poor public safety training. On 08/24/2014 05:05 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : a little shake rattle and roll here is a wake up about 3:20 to an earthquake centered centered about 10 or 12 miles from here. How bad is that Bhairitu, cracked walls? Fissures in the pavement?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One
Richard,As a Serious Professional (reference my Medical Advice, advice about wine, how to live your life for a better result, and other of my contributions), I use Mozilla Firefox as my newsreader. That said, please reconsider your treatment of Michael. He is a person after all (underneath the mess). Thank you for your consideration.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Alternative Therapy
What I find, nothing short of remarkable, is that twice, as I said, I visited dermatologists. In both cases they gave me some topical ointment as samples. These were tiny samples, and I would keep them going as along as I could. I don't know why I never got a prescription, but the colloidal silver worked nothing short of a miracle. Really, I still don't believe it. On a philosophical basis, I don't think I could ever limit myself to just what science has discovered so far. First, we know, that changes on a daily basis. But I have too many experiences that I would classify as mystical to feel the need to benchmark them against whatever science has been able to explain. And one of the funny things is, that these experiences have had many practical benefits. Not just the gazing out at the ocean type thing, feeling the wonder of the universe type thing. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : coming in late on this, as I mentioned before, I had a patch of psoriasis just below my knee for twenty plus years. Ann sent me some colloidal silver and the first thing it did was dry that patch up. I then continued to apply it, although less often, and it has completely taken the patch away. My knee shows no sign of it, and I've stopped applying the ointment. In fact the little one or two oz. container Ann sent me is probably more than half full. And of course, my athletes foot had a little flair up, and after a couple applications, that has gone as well. That is so great Steve. I will add this to the testimonials when I sell this to my customers. But Sal will accuse me of selling snake oil. Still, although I have not rigorously scientifically tested the product on hundreds of psoriasis cases it appears it worked for you so I can tell them that and they can take their chances on it working for them. Too bad Sal only considers those things that have been confined to a laboratory somewhere and scrutinized by people in white lab coats for years valid or trustworthy. That feels so limited and limiting. During that twenty year period to treat the psoriasis, I visited doctors who prescribed ointments that virtually did no good. One the other hand, if I had a serious ailment, I would straight away go for an allopathic treatment. I have seen (or heard) of too many people with serious ailments get side tracked on useless approaches, only to die in short order. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/22/2014 12:12 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: salyavin, imo the concepts thoroughly tested and safe and objective science are additional ways in which we kid ourselves. On Friday, August 22, 2014 1:56 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/22/2014 09:17 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/22/2014 12:12 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Do yourself a favour and drop the conspiracy theories when it comes to your health. No, I use the information gleaned from taking workshops in alternative medicine. I used alternative medicine since 1972. You do know you are arguing against people who have actually taken courses in it? = Wow, courses. And how many courses have you taken? = It's not about courses it's about whether what they teach has been thoroughly tested. This is what I've been saying all day, there may be great wonders still to be discovered but until it's as well tested as possible we will not know and end up with the sort of alternative therapies we have which largely involve placebo's and the white coat effect for their efficacy, such as it is. What some folks call Quackery may also just be Folk Medicine and has a record of never harming anyone compared to many pharmaceuticals. I always love the one ad which is one minute long and 15 seconds for the actual endorsement by a sports figure and then 40 seconds of warnings and disclaimers. Only a fool would want to take that shit. And it also for an ailment that is curable by correcting the metabolic imbalance. And then there is the problem of proper doctors misdiagnosing. It happens far too often. I think Salvy's just a science fan and not a scientist.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
There Oughta Be a Law!(Copyright available, see My Best Friend Bhairitu for pricing)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description
If I'm a clown, I guess you're the guy selling programs. At least I'm in the ring! Love ya! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Ann I'm glad you've found a clown to be such good friends with. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Those are some good points, and observations Ann, but we must remember that Michael has acquired special powers of knowing why people start meditating, and why they stop meditating. Why it was just a couple days ago when he kindly corrected me as to the real reasons I curtailed, or discontinued part of my practice of TM and TMSP. He was very adamant about it, and it was really quite revealing. Sort of like he was screaming at me. Maybe he can dust off that old shingle of his, MJ Spiritualist, and channel similar advice to others. Methinks, Michael is going to take exception to some of your observations. MJ seems to get on a train that is rolling fast down some track and then he finds himself unable to jump off it or stop it and before you know it he is accusing you of being a big TM apologist and cultist and virtually prostrating yourself at Maharishi's feet, even now, even though it is readily apparent that you are more like me: we both involved ourselves for a while in TM (you a teacher, me a student for 4 years at MIU) but now we have both moved on to other aspects of our lives. We hold no animosity for the Movement nor do we regret our time and energy spent doing what we did years ago. But once MJ gets something in his mind it seems hard to shake it out of there. He would have made a good fighting dog - once he gets a hold he simply won't let go, even when he's pulled the other dog's head clear off its shoulders.
[FairfieldLife] Re: opinion of oprah
It is kind of funny, thinking Salyavin watches Oprah. What's funny for me, is that I have no clue what plays on TV in the morning, even though I hear it's a big deal. About the only time I see any TV in the morning is when I have jury duty, and there, you are in a room with several hundred people, and not much else to do. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I post this mainly in hopes that level headed science appreciator Sal and starry eyed quackery fan Share will give us their considered (and one would assume) entirely opposite opinions This bit says it all for me: Asimov died in 1992 -- six years into Oprah’s syndicated sabotage upon sense -- having lived long enough to see American Intellectual Life degenerate to depths worse than he could have imagined... from “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge” into a cultural elevation of ignorance as not only “just as good”, but in every way superior to knowledge... A shift surely affected in part by Winfrey’s outsized influence. When TV is the main educator it's going to seek the lowest common denominator, another problem with capitalism. There's no one to check the facts and point out errors on Oprah, the audience figures rule, give the people what they want. No arguments from me. TV, in 95% of the cases, is a dreadful waste of time and I simply don't watch it. But somehow equating people's belief in or use of alternative medicinal therapies on talk shows and Oprah seems far fetched. I think every single one of us who has either practiced TM or been interested in alternate diets beyond eating as carnivores have come across literature or people/nutritionist/naturpaths who know about herbs, tinctures and health care from days gone by or other cultures. It is not all gleaned from day talk shows, by a long shot. And as for Oprah, I wouldn't know if she was right, wrong or somewhere in the middle as I have never seen her show, have you? Unlike on British TV where we have rules about what how opinion pieces are to be portrayed compared to something with supporting evidence. That just covers documentaries though, I'm sure that chat shows rely on the hopeful integrity of the presenter. We have no one like Oprah thank the lord and the BBC is quite proud of its stance on impartiality, the Tories will destroy it though in their endless quest to turn the UK into America. If someone makes money out of it, it must intrinsically be a good thing right? http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement Oprah Winfrey ruins 2013 Harvard commencement http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement Last year’s Harvard Commencement keynote speech -- a trite, forgettable, and platitudinous monologue delivered by journalist Fareed Zakaria -- wafted inoffensiv View on www.examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement; class=ygrps-yiv-1225196427ygrps-yiv-793098506ygrps-yiv-273569700link-enhancr-card-url ygrps-yiv-1225196427ygrps-yiv-793098506ygrps-yiv-273569700link-enhancr-element Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
.1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : a little shake rattle and roll here is a wake up about 3:20 to an earthquake centered centered about 10 or 12 miles from here. How bad is that Bhairitu, cracked walls? Fissures in the pavement? Some structural damage and loss of power to 8000 homes. I think it was magnitude 6.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Alternative Therapy
Steve,Man I feel you! I spent months with dermatologists for a skin condition that popped up (or, popped out). First guy was Park/57 Street. Waiting room filled with models and Soap Opera Actors (is 'actor' the correct word here?), and me. He's got a wall full of Hirshfield's (original, and I figuring out how to lift just one). This guy gets it all wrong. On to the Cosmetic Beauty Dermatologist in the Townhouse. Nice digs. Even her own line of cream-shit. She ends up as full-of-shit as her predecessor. To make a long-story-short, it my beloved who figures it. She know me (well, not Everything). The End
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description
Actually, I think he's more in mold of Nikita Khrushchev, always pounding his shoe on the podium. (and getting about as much respect) http://drwizard.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/010309-0104-shoesforind1.jpg http://drwizard.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/010309-0104-shoesforind1.jpg http://drwizard.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/010309-0104-shoesforind1.jpg http://drwizard.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/010309-0104-... http://drwizard.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/010309-0104-shoesforind1.jpg View on drwizard.files.wordp... http://drwizard.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/010309-0104-shoesforind1.jpg Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Ann and Steve,I misjudged, regrets. You both were performing Clown Therapy with Mike. I wish I had been consulted before you initiated this course of treatment. I do concur, of course, because sometimes laughter is the best medicine. And, we do want To Help Mike (Copyright 2014, All Rights Reserved, film rights available, contact: dannyboy2014)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description
I'm listening to Bring in the Clowns as I read your words.It's so beautiful, I gotta cry.. Don't know if it's the music or the precious words of love yous share. It's beautiful
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description
Ann, you are deserving of those gold stars you sometimes give out. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Ann I'm glad you've found a clown to be such good friends with. Hey, I still like you best MJ, Steve just happens to be misunderstood by you right now, that's all. Here he is a family guy, devoted to wife and offspring, working hard every day in his business after having taught and practiced TM many years ago. I'm just understanding his predicament where others make stuff up about him and trumpet it from the towers of FFL in the hopes that if they say it enough it will suddenly become true. Hey, but don't listen to me, I'm only an attention vampire, cultist and dumb as a bag of hammers. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Those are some good points, and observations Ann, but we must remember that Michael has acquired special powers of knowing why people start meditating, and why they stop meditating. Why it was just a couple days ago when he kindly corrected me as to the real reasons I curtailed, or discontinued part of my practice of TM and TMSP. He was very adamant about it, and it was really quite revealing. Sort of like he was screaming at me. Maybe he can dust off that old shingle of his, MJ Spiritualist, and channel similar advice to others. Methinks, Michael is going to take exception to some of your observations. MJ seems to get on a train that is rolling fast down some track and then he finds himself unable to jump off it or stop it and before you know it he is accusing you of being a big TM apologist and cultist and virtually prostrating yourself at Maharishi's feet, even now, even though it is readily apparent that you are more like me: we both involved ourselves for a while in TM (you a teacher, me a student for 4 years at MIU) but now we have both moved on to other aspects of our lives. We hold no animosity for the Movement nor do we regret our time and energy spent doing what we did years ago. But once MJ gets something in his mind it seems hard to shake it out of there. He would have made a good fighting dog - once he gets a hold he simply won't let go, even when he's pulled the other dog's head clear off its shoulders.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Alternative Therapy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : What I find, nothing short of remarkable, is that twice, as I said, I visited dermatologists. In both cases they gave me some topical ointment as samples. These were tiny samples, and I would keep them going as along as I could. I don't know why I never got a prescription, but the colloidal silver worked nothing short of a miracle. Really, I still don't believe it. On a philosophical basis, I don't think I could ever limit myself to just what science has discovered so far. Does anyone actually do that? First, we know, that changes on a daily basis. But I have too many experiences that I would classify as mystical to feel the need to benchmark them against whatever science has been able to explain. But when I have experiences that I feel defy explanation it makes me even more determined to find the explanation. At first I accepted the Hindoo dogma about transcendence but now I'm not so sure, it fits in with too many similar types of altered states. I do think that meditation research will play a part in the great unravelling of how the mind works because it involves changing perceptions and from that we will see what part of the brain does what element of subjective experience. Science is the search for explanations. And there can be good or bad ones, the bad ones tend to raise more questions than they answer, it all depends what type of explanation you are content to live with. And one of the funny things is, that these experiences have had many practical benefits. Not just the gazing out at the ocean type thing, feeling the wonder of the universe type thing. (-: If you don't feel the wonder of the universe you would make a rather poor scientist because you would have no inspiration but it's. I find it interesting that the meme of the scientist as dull and incurious still lives on! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : coming in late on this, as I mentioned before, I had a patch of psoriasis just below my knee for twenty plus years. Ann sent me some colloidal silver and the first thing it did was dry that patch up. I then continued to apply it, although less often, and it has completely taken the patch away. My knee shows no sign of it, and I've stopped applying the ointment. In fact the little one or two oz. container Ann sent me is probably more than half full. And of course, my athletes foot had a little flair up, and after a couple applications, that has gone as well. That is so great Steve. I will add this to the testimonials when I sell this to my customers. But Sal will accuse me of selling snake oil. Still, although I have not rigorously scientifically tested the product on hundreds of psoriasis cases it appears it worked for you so I can tell them that and they can take their chances on it working for them. Too bad Sal only considers those things that have been confined to a laboratory somewhere and scrutinized by people in white lab coats for years valid or trustworthy. That feels so limited and limiting. During that twenty year period to treat the psoriasis, I visited doctors who prescribed ointments that virtually did no good. One the other hand, if I had a serious ailment, I would straight away go for an allopathic treatment. I have seen (or heard) of too many people with serious ailments get side tracked on useless approaches, only to die in short order. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/22/2014 12:12 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: salyavin, imo the concepts thoroughly tested and safe and objective science are additional ways in which we kid ourselves. On Friday, August 22, 2014 1:56 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/22/2014 09:17 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/22/2014 12:12 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Do yourself a favour and drop the conspiracy theories when it comes to your health. No, I use the information gleaned from taking workshops in alternative medicine. I used alternative medicine since 1972. You do know you are arguing against people who have actually taken courses in it? = Wow, courses. And how many courses have you taken? = It's not about courses it's about whether what they teach has been thoroughly tested. This is what I've been saying all day, there may be great wonders still to be discovered but until it's as well tested as possible we will not know and end up with the sort of alternative therapies we have which largely
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
The dish didn't break. I just heard it fall over. I live in Martinez and if you look at some of the maps on the news coverage you can see how close I am to the epicenter. Chalk it up to sadhana that I don't freak out when these things happen. They're annoying but they happen infrequently and you get used to the little ones which are like a truck driving by. Must be Paco Lipz doing. On 08/24/2014 09:12 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: My Dear Fellow Bhairitu,No worries. I will bring you a new dish. Two new dishes! This Internet Age Earthquake was portended in ancient times. I stored wine in NYC forsuch an eventuality. NYC is built on a rock (granite) for just such reason. If California Wineries jack up their price, we'll get it from Europe or South America. In fact, Africa's got the shit!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description
What gold stars?
[FairfieldLife] Re: opinion of oprah
Real Men, Women, and Rocks watch Oprah. We ain't ashamed to say so. Say it loud: I love Oprah, and I'm proud. (courtesy of James Brown, lyrics by Mr Dan)*The title Real Men, Women, and Rocks Watch Oprah is protected under the Copyright Laws of Geneva, just in case the bad thing happens to The US of A). Prices negotiable
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
On 08/24/2014 09:13 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : A dish fell over in my cabinet and the wireless phone flew off the top of my portable AC. Otherwise nothing much else here. I have a crack off the window frame in front of me that's been there for years but it didn't get worse. It may have been from the 4.0 quake back in 2007 that was 1 mile away. Funny thing is I woke up about one minute before it hit. When it hit I just laid there in bed wondering how long the thing was going to last. It did last about 20 seconds. Napa got the worst of it as the quake spread out from American Canyon which is on the other side of Vallejo up to Napa. Originally it was thought to be the Franklin fault which has been dormant for 1.6 million years but due to the spread it is a different previously unknown fault. Napa has a lot of old building not retrofitted for quakes. It will be interesting to see if anything downtown here has been damaged because there are a number of vacant downtown buildings not retrofitted. They're calling this the first major earthquake of the Internet Age. In fact rather than futzing with my clock radio I just went to local stations streaming feeds on my phone to get info. Here's a Dropcam video from someone's house near the epicenter. That's all a relief! We don't get them here at all really, not until they start gas fracking next year LOL... Raw Video: American Canyon Quake http://youtu.be/vQGomeOr0SA image http://youtu.be/vQGomeOr0SA Raw Video: American Canyon Quake http://youtu.be/vQGomeOr0SA Courtesy Camille Alysson Freking. View full story at http://news.kron4.com View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/vQGomeOr0SA Preview by Yahoo I notice they didn't immediately go and stand in the doorways like you're supposed to! Poor public safety training. Actually doorways are NOT recommended. Did you hear that from a proper doctor? When the quake in 2007 hit I was watching TV in the living room and dropped down to the floor. Dive under a table. If the roof had begun sounding like it was coming down this morning I would have dropped to the floor as it would have fallen on the bed but the space on the floor by the bed would be safe. In this modern age a lot folks lost their TVs that were hanging on the walls. Mine is just sitting on it's stand and wasn't effected but then a 55 LED weighing almost 100 lbs doesn't move much and the way they did the stand it can't fall forward. On 08/24/2014 05:05 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : a little shake rattle and roll here is a wake up about 3:20 to an earthquake centered centered about 10 or 12 miles from here. How bad is that Bhairitu, cracked walls? Fissures in the pavement?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
Dear Friendlies Friend B,I am so relieved to hear of the good fortune of your plate. You and I must celebrate at your house with such plate. You can serve on such plate. This miracle must be celebrated every year. I am making booking now. My family is eager to meet with you and share in your Good Fortune. Do you have enough glasses? Perhaps you should buy more, but don't spend too much. I recommend your neighbor's Yard Sales of their uneven sets of glasses, now that they have suffered the misfortune of breaking. Well, you know that sometimes you find your luck in the most unlikely palaces.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 6.1 Quake
re: filters, that was my conclusion, too, based on the four seperate images. yep, as far as quakes, most of them are tiny, and felt, but aside from something small possibly affected, the aren't a big deal. Had cracks over all the doorways, and in a lot of the corners, in my last place - plaster over wood. I knew the guy that developed the basics of Google Earth, and his first funded apps were for military use - He showed me flyovers of Iraq, a few years before the first US invasion. The CIA has been using tech companies openly, even funding startups, since the mid-90's, though I noticed they have stopped talking about it. I figure what they allow us civilians access to, is always 20 plus years behind the bleeding edge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Or perhaps they take three photo's in rapid succession with filters over the lens and then combine them to give one true colour image. That seems plausible ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Nothing felt here, about 60 miles SE of Napa. Of course it WAS 3:30 AM or so...No damage either. That's good, my sister probably didn't notice it then. She hates Earthquakes, I tell her that North California is a pretty dumb place to live in that case. I'm sure the locals just shrug them off. PS Sal, got your response about the Bayer lens re: sat photo of plane. Thanks for the info and reply - As others have said, the scrolling function is busted on neo, so although I saw it earlier, when I tried to revisit, Yahoo has decided that free forums with unlimited scrolling eat too much RAM, and I couldn't reply. It's more an idea really, I've never seen an effect like it on terrestrial based gear, but they do use a filter over the sensor that breaks light up into its component parts so each bit can be registered seperately and get put back together for a picture, so I'm guessing that's the cause but not entirely sure how it ended up like that. I would like to see what sort of camera they use and how big the sensor is etc. but I think google Earth pics are ex-military stuff so they might not want to divulge the info, they still won't let anyone see what the camera in the U2 looked like! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : a little shake rattle and roll here is a wake up about 3:20 to an earthquake centered centered about 10 or 12 miles from here. How bad is that Bhairitu, cracked walls? Fissures in the pavement? Some structural damage and loss of power to 8000 homes. I think it was magnitude 6.
