[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your reply. And I am not a TM teacher so that is a moot point. I probably agree with more of what you said than is apparent. However, do you really know what Maharishi's project plan is for the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Do

2005-05-15 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) One end of the spectrum is silent me-less knowing and the other end is dynamic intellectual interaction which I would say is part of the process of self

[FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Bliss

2005-05-15 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, one of the early TM researchers has been investigating tummo--heat yoga--for years now, Herbert Benson. In his one book he details these yogis having wet sheets laid on them in the freezing cold of the Himalayas at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Bliss

2005-05-15 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, one of the early TM researchers has been investigating tummo--heat yoga--for years now, Herbert Benson. In his one book he details these yogis

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread wayback71
-- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi is not hiding the plans. They are incomprehensible due to the complexity of the task he is accomplishing. Infinite multi- tasking. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Bliss

2005-05-15 Thread Vaj
On May 15, 2005, at 6:51 AM, cardemaister wrote: Just saw a documentary which showed some monks performing /gtumo/. At least their breathing seemed like quite normal, perhaps even shallow. Once to two side channels swoon and the pranas have dissolved and stabilize in the central channel

[FairfieldLife] Happy Saka Dawa

2005-05-15 Thread Llundrub
Due to the enormous success in Llundrub and Vajranathas spreading of the Dharma through Fairfield virtual community, I would like to ring the bell of real dharma for everyone by dedicating this pub to the Buddha, for your enjoyment. Spiritual music ftp://happy:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:999 To

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movement facilities

2005-05-15 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Livingston Manor, Antrim, Huntsville. Americans would probably have visa problems staying in Canada a long time

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread Llundrub
Once we make truth and integrity and compassion so complex, we can easily loose our footing.There's no room in the heart for all the complexity. The Movement is now some mind born dragon. Only a person adept in chaos theory and weather patterns could hope to comprehend. So what does

[FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Bliss

2005-05-15 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, one of the early TM researchers has been investigating tummo--heat yoga--for years now, Herbert Benson. In his one book he details these yogis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Saka Dawa

2005-05-15 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Due to the enormous success in Llundrub and Vajranathas spreading of the Dharma through Fairfield virtual community, I would like to ring the bell of real dharma for everyone by dedicating this pub to the Buddha, for your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Bliss

2005-05-15 Thread Vaj
On May 15, 2005, at 2:39 AM, Rick wrote: I may have asked this once before but when these yogis generate all this heat in their bodies is it from an increase of the metabolic rate that the physical heat arrises or is the source...mysterious. If it is from an increase in the metabolic rate I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Saka Dawa

2005-05-15 Thread Llundrub
I still didn't get an answer from Vaj though. Did he ever learn TM or is he a Buddhist evangelist on the TM board?Yeah, he's a Sidha. I'm not sure Vaj are you a Guvnur? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread claudiouk
I agree with the sentiments and logic expressed below. Only MMY doesn't plan at all - he seems to just react spontaneously to gut feelings. The plan emerges from one such reaction to another but it unfolds unthinkingly. He can't logically justify decisions. So he hears Blair was re-elected and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Saka Dawa

2005-05-15 Thread Vaj
On May 15, 2005, at 8:55 AM, Llundrub wrote: I'm not sure Vaj are you a Guvnur? Downeast Maharaja. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web,

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread jim_flanegin
so first, as I had mentioned previously, the project plan is to enlighten the world. Pretty incomprehensible as it is, no matter who's plan it is. So given that we can't figure it out (all of the discrete tasks and interconnections of the project plan), it becomes an article of faith; a

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread jim_flanegin
Exactly. I made the same choice. It appears to be connected to our dharma; how we carry water, chop wood. Or a favorite of mine, 'see the job, do the job, stay out of the misery'. Even though we may be attracted to something at a particular stage in our lives, we should be careful over

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread Llundrub
I always was pretty fanatical when it came to the Movement. At first I was a promovement fanatic. But when I found that I could convince people of nothing I changed my mind. There had to be reasons that it was only myself that 'understood' while all other nonmeditators were wrong. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Saka Dawa

2005-05-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Due to the enormous success in Llundrub and Vajranathas spreading of the Dharma through Fairfield virtual community, I would like to ring the bell of real dharma for everyone by dedicating this pub to the Buddha, for your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Saka Dawa

2005-05-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, he's a Sidha. Is he still practicing it? Vaj? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with the sentiments and logic expressed below. Only MMY doesn't plan at all - he seems to just react spontaneously to gut feelings. The plan emerges from one such reaction to another but it unfolds

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so first, as I had mentioned previously, the project plan is to enlighten the world. Since you seem to be in the know, tell us about it, how dose enlighten the world looks like? Pretty incomprehensible as it is, no

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread jim_flanegin
I think if so many who vent about this issue had listened to themselves more carefully when they were pledging heart and soul to the Movement, there wouldn't be such feelings of indignation now. At one point while working for the Movement, I had applied for teacher training. At the same time,

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always was pretty fanatical when it came to the Movement. At first I was a promovement fanatic. But when I found that I could convince people of nothing I changed my mind. There had to be reasons that it was only myself

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so first, as I had mentioned previously, the project plan is to enlighten the world. Since you seem to be in the know, tell us about

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so first, as I had mentioned previously, the project

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very similar to enlighten the self, only larger. And what that's mean to you? People seems to have different approaches to that including that ther is no you and that no one or the world needs it. I think the

[FairfieldLife] Unc the state coordinator

2005-05-15 Thread Rick Archer
Hey Unc, just out of curiosity, of which state were you the coordinator? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And what that's mean to you? People seems to have different approaches to that including that ther is no you and that no one or the world needs it. Enlightenment has no meaning. Meaning is a product of the mind. There is no approach to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatized?

2005-05-15 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/15/05 9:17 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Claiming that the wrong exists in the Maharishi, in the Maharishi's plan to enlighten the world, or in the world of business is just soothing the ego when it is suffering. Better to focus on what we need personally to get back on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatized?

2005-05-15 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/15/05 10:32 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is objective worth without a working plan? All I know is what my plan for myself is. I am not a part of the TMO so I am not concerned about what that working plan is. As for Maharishi's plan, he knows what he is doing. I will

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatized?

2005-05-15 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/15/05 10:32 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is objective worth without a working plan? All I know is what my plan for myself is. I am not a part of the TMO so I am not concerned about what

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread jim_flanegin
well put! Thanks, Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And what that's mean to you? People seems to have different approaches to that including that ther is no you and that no one or the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cathars; was Mother Divine Purusha Moving

2005-05-15 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a result, very little of any historical accuracy remains. I would have to advise you, based on my research, that easily 80-90% of what you will find in books about the Cathars (including HBHG) is fiction.

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatized?

2005-05-15 Thread jim_flanegin
More like nature or God saw a need for this planet increasing the vibration upwards towards enlightenment, and geez, someone's gotta do it, and Maharishi was the man. He did revive the ancient wisdom of the Veda and bring it out in pure form, or useful, worthwhile form anyway. Whether or not

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I have said before, MMY is raising the bar so high as to exclude all but the most enlightend in the TMO with regard to success in his latest program, snip to end Most enlightened? I doubt it. More likely most

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatized?

2005-05-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to revive a dead horse, but exactly what part of the plan were Angie, April, Judith, Jennifer, Linda, and all the others? I'm sorry I don't know of them. If you are asking why do bad things happen to good people

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I have said before, MMY is raising the bar so high as to exclude all but the most enlightend in the TMO with regard to success in

[FairfieldLife] The Real Doing - understanding Maharishi's actions.

2005-05-15 Thread guybanner2002
From Maharishi's Bhagavad-Gita, Chapter 4 Verse 34, Commentary, 'Service' means action in accordance with the desire of the master. A sense of service has little to do with the nature of the work itself, but is primarily concerned with the fulfillment of the master's desire; if the master is

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so first, as I had mentioned previously, the project plan is to enlighten the world. Pretty incomprehensible as it is, no matter who's plan it is. So given that we can't figure it out (all of the discrete tasks and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc the state coordinator

2005-05-15 Thread TurquoiseB
Hey Unc, just out of curiosity, of which state were you the coordinator? Oregon and Washington. Before that I ran the Western Regional Office for Stan Crowe. What- ever happened to Stan and Pumpkin? Are they still around in the movement somewhere? Unc To subscribe, send a message to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Real Doing - understanding Maharishi's actions.

2005-05-15 Thread Vaj
On May 15, 2005, at 12:37 PM, guybanner2002 wrote: From Maharishi's Bhagavad-Gita, Chapter 4 Verse 34, Commentary, 'Service' means action in accordance with the desire of the master. A sense of service has little to do with the nature of the work itself, but is primarily concerned with the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cathars; was Mother Divine Purusha Moving

2005-05-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. Do you then hold the following theme in HBHG to be fiction: It is the story of the Knights Templar, and a behind-the-scenes society called the Prieure de Sion, and its involvement in reinstating descendants

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Doing - understanding Maharishi's actions.

2005-05-15 Thread jim_flanegin
Were you a follower of Jim Jones? If not, why not? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 15, 2005, at 12:37 PM, guybanner2002 wrote: From Maharishi's Bhagavad-Gita, Chapter 4 Verse 34, Commentary, 'Service' means action in accordance with the desire

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc the state coordinator

2005-05-15 Thread jim_flanegin
Did you know Dennis Greenly (sp?). He was my TM teacher in Corvallis, OR, 1975. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Unc, just out of curiosity, of which state were you the coordinator? Oregon and Washington. Before that I ran the Western

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread jim_flanegin
Hi John, Can you please restate that in form of a question? (with apologies to 'Jeopardy'). I am not sure what your point is. Sorry, a bit feeble minded... Thanks, Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same logic, Jim, just different non english

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to lupidus108

2005-05-15 Thread gullible fool
Hello ! Any idea why my posts does not reached the public board ? Best wishes I sent you a private email on the 11th and a private email today concerning this problem, and they both came back as undeliverable. When you sent a message to the group around the 11th, it was delivered only to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Bliss

2005-05-15 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 15, 2005, at 2:39 AM, Rick wrote: I may have asked this once before but when these yogis generate all this heat in their bodies is it from an increase of the metabolic rate that the physical heat arrises or is

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always was pretty fanatical when it came to the Movement. At first I was a promovement fanatic. But when I found that I could convince people of nothing I changed my mind. There had to be reasons that it was only myself

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And what that's mean to you? People seems to have different approaches to that including that ther is no you and that no one or the world needs it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Doing - understanding Maharishi's actions.

2005-05-15 Thread off_world_beings
So whats the point of TM and TM-Sidhis? If they'd said in the TM introductory talk, or at any time thereafter, that to get enlightened you must follow the every whim and nutball idea of The 'Master', I would have told them to go take a flying leap off a tall building, them I would have found

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Saka Dawa

2005-05-15 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still didn't get an answer from Vaj though. Did he ever learn TM or is he a Buddhist evangelist on the TM board? Yeah, he's a Sidha. I'm not sure Vaj are you a Guvnur? No, I think he is making it up. He never

[FairfieldLife] Kaplan's money

2005-05-15 Thread at_man_and_brahman
Can anyone provide a refresher as to how much money the Movement is supposed to have bilked the Kaplan's for in Boone and what the general outline of the story is? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Star Wars' raises questions on U.S. policy

2005-05-15 Thread gullible fool
http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20050515/111618582000.html Without Michael Moore and Fahrenheit 9/11 at the Cannes Film Festival this time, it was left to George Lucas and Star Wars to pique European ire over the state of world relations and the United States' role in it. Lucas' themes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread Llundrub
I'm not sure enlightenment and increasing sattva are the same thing. To answer the question Anon asked me, to bring light to the dark just changes the play of shadow. Real enlightenment starts when outside of the three gunas one no longer judges any of them from the standpoint of another

[FairfieldLife] To lupidus108

2005-05-15 Thread Rick Archer
When you sent this message: I know that within men sits a divine Being, whose plan is that love and justice should triumph. This being so, the end is assured it went only to the moderators. That would happen if you sent the message from the ffl webpage, as opposed to sending it from your email

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatized?

2005-05-15 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/15/05 11:01 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Angie? Withers. Rob McCutchean's comments: I remember Angie well. She was a total South American fox, from Chile I believe. Her parents were wealthy oligarchs, and Mahesh gave her the full deferential treatment he gave to his other

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cathars; was Mother Divine Purusha Moving

2005-05-15 Thread Llundrub
C'mon. If they were hiding the whole last 2,000 years then of what good were they. Do you then hold the following theme in HBHG to be fiction:"It is the story of the Knights Templar, and a behind-the-scenessociety called the Prieure de Sion, and its involvement in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Bliss

2005-05-15 Thread Llundrub
You need to do a quick research of the Gtummo technique to get a picture. - Original Message - From: Rick To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 12:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Bliss --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatized?

2005-05-15 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/15/05 11:08 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether or not Maharishi's efforts are needed or not, time will tell. I do recall him answering a question back in the 60's I think about how he, one man, could enlighten the world, and he said he'd make copies of himself. So

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Real Doing - understanding Maharishi's actions.

2005-05-15 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/15/05 11:37 AM, guybanner2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Maharishi's Bhagavad-Gita, Chapter 4 Verse 34, Commentary, 'Service' means action in accordance with the desire of the master. A sense of service has little to do with the nature of the work itself, but is primarily

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unc the state coordinator

2005-05-15 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/15/05 11:56 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Unc, just out of curiosity, of which state were you the coordinator? Oregon and Washington. Before that I ran the Western Regional Office for Stan Crowe. What- ever happened to Stan and Pumpkin? Are they still around in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unc the state coordinator

2005-05-15 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/15/05 12:15 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you know Dennis Greenly (sp?). He was my TM teacher in Corvallis, OR, 1975. Dennis lives a few blocks from me also, and is a CAD programmer at Creative Edge Master Shop (http://cec-waterjet.com) where I work part time as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Kaplan's money

2005-05-15 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/15/05 1:33 PM, at_man_and_brahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone provide a refresher as to how much money the Movement is supposed to have bilked the Kaplan's for in Boone and what the general outline of the story is? Earl's letter is in the files section. To subscribe,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Bliss

2005-05-15 Thread Vaj
On May 15, 2005, at 1:46 PM, Rick wrote: But is the heat generated by the metabolic process or in some other way? I don't know how else it could be generated, seems like no matter how spiritual the source of energy, when it manifests at this physical level the effect needs to be expressed in

[FairfieldLife] Sri Vidya (was Re: Role of Bliss)

2005-05-15 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guru Dev's path, Sri Vidya, is now much more accessible in the west. Sri Vidya, the excellent knowledge, beyond which, nothing is to be known. ... Tantras are classified in astika (deriving from the vedas)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Bliss

2005-05-15 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 15, 2005, at 1:46 PM, Rick wrote: But is the heat generated by the metabolic process or in some other way? I don't know how else it could be generated, seems like no matter how spiritual the source of energy,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc the state coordinator

2005-05-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/15/05 12:15 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you know Dennis Greenly (sp?). He was my TM teacher in Corvallis, OR, 1975. Dennis lives a few blocks from me also, and is a CAD programmer at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Bliss

2005-05-15 Thread Rick
One more paragraph from what sounds like the same article: http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2002/04.18/09-tummo.html During visits to remote monasteries in the 1980s, Benson and his team studied monks living in the Himalayan Mountains who could, by g Tum-mo meditation, raise the temperatures

[FairfieldLife] Sri Vidya (was Re: Role of Bliss)

2005-05-15 Thread akasha_108
Interesting page with Sri Vidya mantras (text and mp3) and practice http://gurujiamrita.tripod.com/sri_vidya.htm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group

[FairfieldLife] tapas

2005-05-15 Thread Rick
In 1903 there came to Tiruvannamalai a great Sanskrit scholar and savant, Ganapati Sastri, who became famous as Ganapathi Muni because of the austerities he had been observing. He had the title Kavya- kantha (one who had poetry at his throat), and his disciples addressed him as nayana (father).

[FairfieldLife] Braining damage causing psychic abilities, was: Unc the state coordinator

2005-05-15 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/15/05 2:57 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/15/05 12:15 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you know Dennis Greenly (sp?). He was my TM teacher in Corvallis, OR, 1975. Dennis lives

[FairfieldLife] Re: tapas

2005-05-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ramana replied, now speaking, If one watches whence the notion 'I' arises, the mind gets absorbed there; that is tapas. When a mantra is repeated, if one watches whence that mantra sound arises, the mind gets absorbed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Saka Dawa

2005-05-15 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still didn't get an answer from Vaj though. Did he ever learn TM or is he a Buddhist evangelist on the TM board? Yeah, he's a Sidha. I'm not sure Vaj are you a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Braining damage causing psychic abilities, was: Unc the state coordinator

2005-05-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In South America they have what are known as Lightening Shamans - people who have been struck by lightening and kind of fried, but who end up with psychic and other such abilities. == There was a book called Saved

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Bliss

2005-05-15 Thread Vaj
On May 15, 2005, at 3:57 PM, Rick wrote: During visits to remote monasteries in the 1980s, Benson and his team studied monks living in the Himalayan Mountains who could, by g Tum-mo meditation, raise the temperatures of their fingers and toes by as much as 17 degrees. It has yet to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Braining damage causing psychic abilities, was: Unc the state coordinator

2005-05-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In South America they have what are known as Lightening Shamans - people who have been struck by lightening and kind of fried, but who end

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Saka Dawa

2005-05-15 Thread Vaj
On May 15, 2005, at 2:28 PM, off_world_beings wrote: No, I think he is making it up. He never learned TM or the Sidhis from Maharishi. He seems to have no knowledge of the teaching of TM and how it works, and advocates moodmaking techniques. He also seems to have little or no knowledge of

[FairfieldLife] Sri Vidya (was Re: Role of Bliss)

2005-05-15 Thread akasha_108
More excerpts on Sri Vidya Sri Vidya In the beginning was the One (Kaivalyam), unmanifest and unqualified. It desired to be many. That first desire (Kama) is indeed the Mother of this Universe. When the manifold universe emerged from the One, the original desire pervaded all its

[FairfieldLife] Re: tapas

2005-05-15 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ramana replied, now speaking, If one watches whence the notion 'I' arises, the mind gets absorbed there; that is tapas. When a mantra is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Bliss

2005-05-15 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 15, 2005, at 3:57 PM, Rick wrote: During visits to remote monasteries in the 1980s, Benson and his team studied monks living in the Himalayan Mountains who could, by g Tum-mo meditation, raise the temperatures of

[FairfieldLife] Sri Vidya (was Re: Role of Bliss)

2005-05-15 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More excerpts on Sri Vidya The presiding deity of SriVidya is Kamakshi, One with desire in Her eyes. She kindles the fire of desire in Her devotees by just a mere glance. Desire is the source, controlled expression

[FairfieldLife] Sri Vidya (was Re: Role of Bliss)

2005-05-15 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More excerpts on Sri Vidya yasonmesha-nimeshabhyam jagatah pralayodayau; tam shakti-chakra-vidhava-prabhavam shankaram stumah Just for fun, a couple of minor corrections to that shloka, or whatever, from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc the state coordinator

2005-05-15 Thread jim_flanegin
small world! That is quite an amazing story! The last time I saw Dennis was riding a rickety elevator up a hotel in DC that the Movement had purchased, during a capitals course in 1981 or 2. He still looked radiant then. Please tell him Hi from me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Braining damage causing psychic abilities, was: Unc the state coordinator

2005-05-15 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/15/05 3:12 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In South America they have what are known as Lightening Shamans - people who have been struck by lightening and kind of fried, but who end up with psychic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Bliss

2005-05-15 Thread Vaj
On May 15, 2005, at 4:54 PM, Rick wrote: Now were cookin'. Yeah, prana, spontaneous heat, unmanifest field of all possibilities manifesting as heat. Sounds good to me. P.S. to Peter S., I understand that this is only speculation. There are actually some devices to measure prana, but not

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Doing - understanding Maharishi's actions.

2005-05-15 Thread jim_flanegin
It can also be seen in terms of the Master within. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So whats the point of TM and TM-Sidhis? If they'd said in the TM introductory talk, or at any time thereafter, that to get enlightened you must follow the every

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sri Vidya (was Re: Role of Bliss)

2005-05-15 Thread Vaj
On May 15, 2005, at 4:59 PM, Rick wrote: The whole thing is great, but this part gives me shivers. Here's a great story of a contemporary Shri Vidya adept: About Swamiji His Holiness Sri Rajagopala Anandanatha, affectionately known as Swamiji was born in 1930 under the Vishaka star during

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unc the state coordinator

2005-05-15 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/15/05 4:18 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: small world! That is quite an amazing story! The last time I saw Dennis was riding a rickety elevator up a hotel in DC that the Movement had purchased, during a capitals course in 1981 or 2. He still looked radiant then. Please tell

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc the state coordinator

2005-05-15 Thread jim_flanegin
Wow! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He had a motorcycle accident last year in which he was going 60 or 70 mph and his bike started wobbling because of the way wind was hitting his windscreen. He fell and went tumbling along the highway with his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movement facilities

2005-05-15 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Livingston Manor, Antrim, Huntsville.

[FairfieldLife] RE: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread anonymousff
Jim, I wrote: Now we are living in a world of dangerous extremes. Some feel anger, knowing that this didn't have to happen. You wrote: Am I happy with what I see going on in the world? Yes and no. No, suffering appears to be continuing for an awfully lot of people. Of course that is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Doing - understanding Maharishi's actions.

2005-05-15 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So whats the point of TM and TM-Sidhis? If they'd said in the TM introductory talk, or at any time thereafter, that to get enlightened you must follow the every whim and nutball idea of The 'Master', I would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan's money

2005-05-15 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone provide a refresher as to how much money the Movement is supposed to have bilked the Kaplan's for in Boone and what the general outline of the story is? ** If the Kaplans had a financail

[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?

2005-05-15 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure enlightenment and increasing sattva are the same thing. To answer the question Anon asked me, to bring light to the dark just changes the play of shadow. Real enlightenment starts when outside of the three

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan's money

2005-05-15 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/15/05 1:33 PM, at_man_and_brahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone provide a refresher as to how much money the Movement is supposed to have bilked the Kaplan's for in Boone and what the general

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan's money

2005-05-15 Thread Vaj
On May 15, 2005, at 6:33 PM, bbrigante wrote: Yeah, and in that letter Earl K does not make any claim that the TMO bilked him out of any money, just the fact that he gave millions and felt ill-treated (I agree, he was ill-treated as a result of Bevan's machinations in Boone designed to show

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan's money

2005-05-15 Thread m2smart4u2000
One of the most disturbing was the report of Mahesh lamenting his inability to milk the Kaplan's entire fortune. It really paints a sinister picture of a greed-crazed avaricious man that has been heard again and again and again. Only this time you hear a clear source on this. I found it

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Doing - understanding Maharishi's actions.

2005-05-15 Thread George DeForest
Vaj ... do you truly not see the difference?? One is a path of knowledge, the other is not! Surrender can be very bad, or very good... let the buyer beware (caveat emptor)! MMY in Gita wrote: ...By adjusting itself to the likes and dislikes of the enlightened cosmic mind of the master, the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Saka Dawa

2005-05-15 Thread Llundrub
You know, the reverse is rather true. You talk alot about what you know nothing of. That's rather crazy. - Original Message - From: off_world_beings To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 1:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Saka

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